Fantasy-Faction Game of Thrones Discussion: Season 8, Episode 1

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Season 8, Episode 1

Critical Role Contender?

Critical Role Contender?


Gene Wolfe 1931 – 2019

Gene Wolfe

(1931 – 2019)


Kingkiller Book 3 still in Limbo, but lots to look forward to…

KvotheA question I get asked almost daily over Twitter is: ‘When will Patrick Rothfuss’s 3rd Kingkiller Chronicles novel be released?’

Every single time I’m asked this question I answer: ‘I don’t know, I’d guess late 2015 to late 2016’.

I know it sucks, but Patrick Rothfuss is a busy man and, as he has said previously, he does find his creativity frustrated by being stuck working on a single project so tries ‘to scratch that itch by working on smaller things like short stories or joint projects’.

Of course, I’m just guessing, and basing my assumption that if finished this year it’ll need editing and such, but following Pat’s hosted Ask Me Anything last night it seems I’m probably not too far off by being less than optimistic about a 2014/2015 release (Note: Amazon have it as 20 Aug 2015, but I wouldn’t put too much stock in that).

Essentially, Pat made no notions that he is anywhere near able to speculate a release date for Doors of Stone, but that he did give us some VERY good news by promising that he didn’t intend to leave fans banished from the world of The Four Corners completely until its release… Pat explained that between now and the release of Doors of Stone he plans to expand his world through a number of side-projects:

1: A novella (about 22,000 words) that centers around Bast. It’s coming out in the Rouges anthology later this year.

2: Another novella centering around Auri. ‘I meant for it to be a short story, but it became a lot more than that, and right now it’s creeping up on 25,000 words.’

3. ‘A short novel (short for me) set in Modeg. It tells the origin stories of one of the other legendary figures in my world: Laniel young-again. (That’s probably going to be about 100-120 thousand words or so.)’

Of course, for fans who can’t wait for the above, there is one non-Kvothe, Four Corners based short-story already out there. As a fan of The Kingkiller Chronicles, the story you should be looking for is: How Old Holly Came To Be, which is a short story told from an unusual character of the Kingkiller world. It was published in July 2013 and printed in the Unfettered anthology that was edited by Shawn Speakman.

Although some people are concerned that Pat’s delay in publishing book three is because the thing’s conclusion is spiraling out of control and could end up being so long that he is forced to split it into two books (as G.R.R. Martin recently admitted may well happen with A Song of Ice & Fire), Pat has said that he still feels that Doors of Stone will be ‘no longer’ than Wise Man’s Fear and ‘maybe even a bit shorter’. What seems to be taking the time is that Pat had written the entirety of The Kingkiller Chronicles as a single book. Converting it into three books meant that a lot of changes had to happen to it – each needed its own story arc, for example. Someone asked Pat just how much the thing had changed and Pat’s answer gives a good insight to the extent of work required: ‘”How much has the basic skeleton of the story changed since you started revising for print?” … I’d say 60% has changed compared to my original draft. It’s a lot different.’

In addition to the updates about Doors of Stone, there were a few cool highlights that stick in my mind having read this and Pat’s last Ask Me Anything. Pat once again confirmed on multiple occasions that he doesn’t like to read up on speculation for his books because ‘I worry that it would crapulate my writing process.’ As for actually sitting down and penning your own novel, Patrick has some great, sophisticated advice for us too… he says that the best advice on writing he can possibly give is: ‘”Just write. Just quit worrying about all that other bullshit and write. Yeah. You’re going to make mistakes. Huge mistakes. Your book/story/poem might turn out to be total crap. That’s unavoidable. But if you want to get better, you have to write. So write.”‘

Perhaps my favourite question and resulting answer from Pat – ever! – was the one where he was asked whether Locke Lamora and Kvothe would get along should they ever meet. Pat’s response was priceless and, even if you were angry at him for taking his time with Doors of Stone, you’ll be forced into a grin and and a feeling of forgiveness:

Truth is, I’ve spent more than a little time thinking about this.
If Kvothe and Locke got together in the right circumstances, I think they would get along. I actually think they’d like each other, in a reserved, professional sort of way.
Here’s the key piece of dialogue from their conversation…
Locke: You know, for a thief, you’re one hell of a performer.
Kvothe: Thanks. As a performer, you’re one hell of a thief.



  1. Avatar Bibliotropic says:

    I’m one of those people who prefers a release date to be pushed back until the product (book, video game, movie, etc) is actually ready for release, rather than pushing for an earlier release date for what would end up being a substandard thing. It sucks to have to wait so long, but at least what I’m waiting for is going to be good!

    • Avatar Overlord says:

      Same here… it kills me to wait, but what would be worse is if we ended up with a book that had blatantly been rushed and a shadow of the book that could have been. The book WILL be released one day, right? The thing is, once it is released it is out and finished forever… it it’s ruined we can never turn back the clock.

      • Avatar Beej says:

        If you read Pat’s blog you may be aware that was *almost* the fate of Wise Man’s Fear. He was rushing it and it showed. He submitted his manuscript to his editor (Betty Wolheim if memory serves) and she told him to stop, forget about the deadline, and write the best book he could.

        • Avatar Z says:

          Wise mans fear was a poor book co.pared to the first, all that random sex and lack of plot development. It looks like he’s left too much of tye story to fit into 1 book it’ll probably be split in two

          • Avatar Annie says:

            I actually liked the second one better than the first, mostly because Kvothe grew so much as a person.

            (Though there were a lot of random plots.)

            • Avatar JAX says:

              Patrick Rothfuss puts NOTHING random in his books. If it is there, it’s there for a reason. Few authors have I read that were as foreseeing and intricately woven in their storytelling as Mr. Rothfuss. He has a glittering talent for weaving the most inane threads in the most relevant manner. You may not see it until the story is finished, but maybe that’s the point. 🙂

          • Avatar Alleline says:

            Hear, hear. A Wise Man’s Fear is not the anger of a quiet man, but a sequel that loses its way. Maybe it wasn’t written in a rush, but it sure is a mess. There is no way to dispute that Rothfuss is going to have to put a lot of what should have been the meat of Book 2 into Book 3. i hope it’s worht the wait.

        • Avatar Betty Tolbert says:

          Greetings!!! i am waiting for a great book to come out….So the Doors of Stone may not see the light of day until Fall of 2020…maybe, worth the 10-12 year wait !! Or it maybe never?????

      • Avatar algon 33 says:

        I was pretty suprised when I heard how many extra projects he’s doing. That’s about 37.5%-45% of the word count of Book 3. On one hand I really want him to focus on Book 3, but on the other I’m excited about the short stories. Ultimately, his life.

    • Avatar jarkid says:

      the whole trilogy was finished in 2007. took him 8 years to (touch it up) it think not.

    • Avatar Frustated but anxious says:

      I remember getting caught up in the beginning of the Wheel of Time and then realizing it wasn’t a trilogy. Wait over 20 years to finish a series then you can start complaining. I remember while stuck in the middle griping about the liklihood of Jordan dieing before he finished. In the end though it was all worth it and I probably read parts of the series 5 or 6 times as new books came out and listening to the whole thing on audio after A Memory of Light.,

    • Avatar Jason P Cummings says:

      How to begin….. (these are just random thoughts or feelings I have about waiting for more Kvothe)
      For most writers 120000 words is a respectable sized novel. A paperback novel ( 4 by six inches usually only holds about 250 words per page. If you do the math 120 K words puts the page count well over 300 pages). It’s only Rothfus sized books that end up being way more than that. If you don’t believe me go to the front of most books and check out the page where they list all the info for the library of congress etc….
      The fact that we get stories by other people than the main character is wonderful. Perhaps we shouldn’t be focusing so much on the end of that one story line. Once that’s over it might be the last we see of the musician. All things said and done, I too would rather wait for a well polished final product.
      I can understand that the story at hand probably has to be one more book since it centers so squarely around one character (Kvothe).
      I just wish it would be done already so I can read it.
      At this rate I’m going to have to go back and read the other two just to refresh myself by the time it comes out. 🙁

  2. Avatar Rosalia says:

    I’m one of these people who wants Pat to take as long as he needs, enjoy the process, enjoy time with his young family, and when he’s ready produce another fantastic book. If that takes one year, I’ll be over the moon. If that takes ten years, so be it.

    It’s bizarre that fans think they’re entitled to demand to know when a book will be released. Maybe that has something to do with our on-demand culture? TV Shows and movies are pretty much instantly downloadable once they’re released somewhere, but with books, you can’t “download” the authors brain. And a book is true art, a proper story, something that needs expert crafting over time. Especially something as complex as Rothfuss’s work.

    And the AMA was awesome 🙂

    • Avatar Abominal says:

      Rosalia Wrote “It’s bizarre that fans think they’re entitled to demand to know when a book will be released”
      I couldn’t disagree more. As an avid reader of epic, multi-book” fantasy stories I am clearly willing to sign up for the wait. However, I believe that as soon as an author releases a book for sale to the public they enter a contract with the public. Maybe not a legal contract, but certainly an ethical one.
      I believe the authors have 3 obligations.
      1. Finish the Story – I would never pay money for the beginning of a story if I knew that the ending would never be published (I suspect neither would most people).
      2. Maintain the quality of the initial offering – I have seen this go both directions. Some authors mature over the course of a series while some seem to give up or just loose whatever it was that they had.
      3. Set and meet reasonable release date obligations – It is not OK to leave an audience hanging. I put a down payment on the story and I expect the author to finish it in a reasonable timeframe. You don’t get to take a multi-year hiatus without an explanation and you don’t get to tell me that there is only one more installment, but then release it in three parts over 4 years!
      Authors – these are my expectations. I do not think that they are unreasonable. In return I will give you my time, I will sing your praises and I will pay you for your product.
      Please don’t bother critiquing my spelling or grammar. I know I am a poor writer.

      • Avatar ChaosTheory says:

        I could not agree more! I love this series to death, but the long wait has certainly turned me off a bit. It irks me that an author would spend time and energy on a novella, instead of focusing on the main story as well. Its hard to not be petulant about it all. I try to be a good fan, but mostly i find myself just being frustrated and wishing the 3rd book was done.

        • Avatar Mission says:

          Milking it. What is sad is that the author hit pay dirt on a series and is milking out his story for nothing other than securing his brand and money. I’m certain we are seeing him scratch two more books out or setting up more to gain interest in his next spinoff series. I for one am done waiting as I’ve damn near forgot half of the story and details of the first books and will not be reading the first two books again to remind myself of what I’ve forgotten over the last several years. He has waited too long and Im losing interest. Moreover I’m less interested in investing in an author that drags out a series this long. I Quit reading George r r Martin because of it, and this isn’t that great off series. Moving on

          • Avatar Kove says:

            Definitely agree with Abominal here. Once a story is released to the public, the public have a genuine, vested and shared interest (with the author) in that story. An argument could be made that the public’s interest in the story, once brought to light, equals–and perhaps exceeds–the author’s!

            The main critique of these “epic” fantasy tales is that too often their creators lose sight of the general roadmap they draw from at the beginning; George R.R. Martin is THE prime example of this. What started as a three book series turned first into a five, then seven part set. He lost his grasp on the plot, let it get out of hand, and the product has suffered (even with his taking oodles of time on it). Rothfuss is trying to avoid this fate–especially after Wise Man’s Fear fell short of The Name of the Wind in overall quality. (Note: It was still good.)

            That being said, I’m not sure I subscribe to the whole “if I devote my whole time to one project, I’ll burn out” principle. Wouldn’t devoting yourself fully to something help make it the best it can be? Wouldn’t those other projects, rather than refresh you, distract you and make it even more difficult for you to get back to your original piece? Oh well; that’s just me being annoyed. I WANT THAT BOOK.

            Also, I’m skeptical that Kvothe’s story is going to be completely wrapped up in one last book. If that’s the case, I’m coming after Rothfuss. Just kidding.

            I WANT THAT BOOK.

  3. Avatar Christopher Keene says:

    As long as people are waiting for his last book he still remains relevant, as long as he still remains relevant his fundraisers still earn money, so just think of this waiting as waiting for a good cause.

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  6. Avatar Dorin says:

    Ok, I get it it is not ready, but then why did he show off after the “name if the wind” stating in an interview that all parts were written and will follow one per year mocking g.r.r. Martin for his extra long time Inbetween books? The story is excellent but he left a lot of things to happen in book 3, he’d kill the King, start the war, go into exile, and what in the world was about the spiders in the first chapter book 1?!

    • Avatar Avery says:

      As of right now, it looks like he won’t be able to fit all that in one book especially with the external conflict (Bast trying to bring Kvothe out of retirement). Maybe the third book ends with Kvothe going into hiding in the village and Kvothe has yet to finish his own story.

      • Avatar Z says:

        Now that would a be a really [poor] ending

      • Avatar David says:

        They aren’t spiders they are scrael, I think he’s having a big lead up, he’s having us wait so when it finally does come out it sells out for a few months, plus I’m sure it will be explosive. Look at all of the stuff he fit into the second book, Ambrose, Auri, Fishery, Traveling, Tinkers, Severan, Imre, The Maer, Caudicus, Grams, Devi, Steat, And Felurian, And tons more!

  7. Avatar Thefos says:

    I know the wait is killing me also, but I agree that I want book 3 to be incredible so I will wait. As I have been waiting on Rothfus and GRRM. I have found another series that was a fun read. Just thought I’d throw it to everyone. Sulivan’s The Riyria Revelations. Not as deep as PatRof or GRRM but I did enjoy them and I actually had a hard time saying goodbye to the characters when it was done. Give them a look while we are waiting…

  8. Avatar Blah says:

    From a non-writer’s perspective, my take on this (not just with PR, but all the other hundreds of writers that do this shit) from a pure, ignorant, consumer-reader point of view (which is a valid one!): if you haven’t finished the books, don’t publish the first one.

    Now, I’m willing to make an exception if your plan all along is to write 50 short books from a single universe and publish two a year for the rest of your life or something. But when it’s something like a Trilogy, where the story is just Incomplete until all three are out: please don’t publish until you have all three. Maybe you want to drag out the publishing dates over a period of *Months* at that stage for PR/Marketing reasons, but should you die on the day the first book goes out, the publishing company should be able to take care of the rest.

    When you drag it out over a period of *years* I, the unwitting consumer who picked up your first book or two and got hooked, get shafted. Now I’m hooked into a story with no conclusion and must wait indefinite years to reach the conclusion. It’s like being a prostitute who specializes in running off into the night just before the deed is complete. If there had been a giant warning label on the front of the book that said something like “Warning: This is Part 1 of an incomplete trilogy with no future publishing dates set in stone at all”, I honestly wouldn’t have even bought the book!

    • Avatar Mael says:

      I’m with you Blah. I’ll read the third book. (If it is the last ffs). But I haven’t been able to recommend Rothfuss books because of this way too long period between books. (Why would I subject a friend to this?). But I certainly wont bother with his future efforts. I see this author spending a lot of time on pursuits other than finishing this story. If he doesn’t he doesn’t take it seriously why should I? And spare me the I’m trying to make it perfect bs.

      • Avatar Nogbad says:

        That’s an echo of my own thoughts on the Kingkiller series. It appears that Pat Rothfuss has become so successful that he doesn’t need to produce the third book. Instead he’s moved on to “novellas” and doing tours and conventions, and blogging at length about random stuff.

        I don’t blame him for wanting to have a life or for enjoying his success, and I will read his 3rd book if it ever arrives, but for me at least he’s killed the idea (with help from GRR Martin) that I could buy into an unfinished series. So for any authors out there wondering why I’m not buying books 1 & 2 – it’s because I’m waiting for book 3 of 3 before buying anything at all.

    • Avatar Arly says:

      When authors take forever to finish a book in a series, it’s a special kind of frustration for me. It is frustrating to read that authors have a billion different projects going except for finishing their series books. Especially since the side projects they work on would not be possible if they didn’t have the success of their series. It feels like I am getting milked for $ and fandom. At the same time, I am a fan because the writing is so good and fun and I want to support the author producing their best work. It’s a real love/hate relationship. Sometimes I think that authors don’t fully understand the frustrations they evoke in their fans/readers. They get resentful in interviews, etc.

  9. Avatar Mr Annoyed says:

    Seems that in order to explain what was left unsaid in the hundreds of pages that were The Wise Man’s Fear, Rothfuss is spending an eternity writing novels so that Doors of Stone wont have to be 2500 pages long. I didn’t even jump on that bandwagon of hate regarding The Wise Man’s Fear until re-reading the first two again and noticing for myself how much the plot slowed down. This is crap. We are all voting this series to be up there in the top 5 fantasy series of all time (which I’m backing), but consumers are getting pissed off when after two years, Authors like Sanderson and Freaking Patterson (don’t worry- I don’t actually follow him) are cranking out half a dozen or more (if you’re Patterson) a year. Rothfuss, you have enough support and, I’m sure, financial backing right now; how come you can’t finish this damn thing? I bet your top 50 fans who have read these books through thirty times each, could have each punched out an awesome thousand page final installment by now, that all of us would have been happy to read- with or with out your name on it!


  10. Avatar Natalie says:

    Well, it certainly is disappointing to know the release could be that far out, but I agree with others that quality is of far more concern than promptness. Plus, it’ll give us all time to read the first two AGAIN just as the last is released. Ah…..bliss!

  11. Avatar Further Annoyed says:

    No one mentions the almighty dollar here. Doesn’t it appear to anyone that with the success of books 1 and 2 that he is now milking the characters into novellas to make more bucks? Honestly, I think it sucks that he can write BOOKS about the characters and then claim creative difficulties. The power of the dollar wins and to his fans, it is a disservice. Don’t buy the novellas.

    • Avatar Overlord says:

      I don’t think this is the case. I think he is probably struggling to tie the story up and looking for ways to make it work. This often leads to having to create back-stories and why not share them with us? 🙂

      • Avatar Further Annoyed says:

        I hope you are right… having been through this with other authors, I vowed I wouldn’t buy any series until they were complete and didn’t check before I started reading this series. My fault to make such an assumption and finding myself in the same situation has me kicking myself. But still, I think that if readers waited for a series to be complete or waited on buying peripheral novellas, then we would see a little more incentive to finish the series. Believe me, I know that writers don’t just sit down and “write” and I appreciate the creative process and how gifted these authors truly are – but success shouldn’t breed sidetracking efforts to finish a product…

    • Avatar Matt says:

      I didn’t buy either of his books nor will I buy the last. Crap story in my honest opinion.

    • Avatar Frustated but anxious says:

      This is, after all, how he makes his living. I would expect him to make the most he can out of his endeavors.

  12. Avatar Coby says:

    So many whiny bitches. His world, his product, his business. He doesn’t owe you anything. Not a damn thing. You’re ‘loyal’ to him as a fan, so you’re now entitled to criticize his method or timetable? Come back to the thread when you’ve graduated high school.

    One of the reasons I like Patrick is because he obviously doesn’t care what you think. This is his story to tell, his way. Go ahead and threaten to stop patronizing his series. Think he’ll care? Love how the idiot who listed his expectations thinks that his fandom and cash somehow create a contract, binding in futurity. What douche. You paid for a product, not the right to dictate how that product was produced, let alone future products.

    I’m so glad I’m not one of you.

    • Avatar Matt says:

      Pretty ironic comment considering he WOULD care if we stopped reading because it would mean he’d stop getting paid, concordantly he would lose financial stability. Yes, it’s fairly obvious to anyone that can think five seconds in front of their face that indeed an author SHOULD care about his readers. We pay him. That was perhaps the poorest argument I’ve ever seen.

      “I’m so glad I’m not one of you.”

      My friend. You sound as if you are between the ages of 10-13. If you’d like to insult people, as least do it coherently.

  13. Avatar Bobbo says:

    Too long of a wait. Name of the Wind release in 2007. Wise Mans Fears, 2011. Projected release date for Doors is 2016, maybe. In no way do I buy into the “possibility” of a 2015 release date. That absolutely WILL NOT happen, guaranteed. It took Rothfuss 4 years to release book two. What makes anyone even remotely believe he will release the third installment in the same 4 year span?. I am betting on a mid 2017 release date, earliest.

    If after finishing this series, Rothfuss decides to do another series, I will probably want to read it. Although, this time around I will not start it until the ENTIRE series is published and on the shelf. I will not subject myself to a Rothfuss long release time. If this stalling is what Rothfuss chooses to do to his readers, his readers should return the favor and stall their reading and purchasing of his books until they’re complete.

    Sadly, I gave up on anticipation. I will not bother recommending Rothfuss to anyone until book 3 is done and seeing that the series is truly finished with no loose ends. I will not bother with re-reading any of his 2 stories (in 7 years). Shame, because the writing is great, and the storyline is captivating. See ya in 2020.

    Jim Butcher’s Dresden Files Series: 15 book, 14 years.
    Terry Brook’s Shannara Series: 33 books, 45 years, not including a long hiatus and writing a screenplay and the full Landover series.
    Brandon Sanderson: 25 books, 7 years.
    JK Rowling Potter Series, 8 books, 10 years. (granted not as in depth but still very detailed).
    David Eddings: 4+ different story book series = 20 books , 34 years.
    Terry Goodking Sword of Truth Series: 17 books in the series, 29 years.
    Sarah Douglass: 6 different story book Series = 20 books ,15 years.
    Patrick Rothfuss, 1 uncompleted series, 2 books (of the series), 7 years.

    • Avatar Damethu says:

      Wow, that is certainly a good statistic comment! I’m about finishing reading book 2… maybe 30 pages to go on…

      I must say your comment, Bobbo, and comments from other as well, doesn’t make thing up! I remember so well the “waiting” between book 4 and book 5 of Harry Potter… It was like a torture waiting for … 2 years?

      So Am I about to live this torture again??? What a shame… If I would write a Fantasy story THIS good, I would write it all THEN make correction to the 1st book for publishing and then the 2second and so on…

      So I guess now I’ll go back to torture, and wait for book 3.

    • Avatar Kezbekistan says:

      Jean M Auel published the first of her 7 book series in 1980, and the final in 2011. I think we have a winner in the ‘how long can we drag this out?’ contest 😉

    • Avatar Just a note. says:

      Just for the Record….
      Jim Butcher’s Dresden Files: same format different books – though not bad books, they have nowhere near the complexity of Rothfuss’ books.
      Rowling: I love Harry Potter but there are amazing plot holes in her books and it is solidly teen fiction. (Again I love Harry Potter, but the complexities do not match)
      Terry Goodkind; Excellent story, great world – after the first 4 books I started getting annoyed by the similar patter they all had.

  14. Avatar Dee Kat says:

    This is the book that taught me NEVER buy or read a book in a series until the entire freaking series is done. At this point I am not all the interested in the 3rd book. That is probably sour grapes talking but I have learned that I am not really made for dead time in a story.

  15. Avatar Morgan says:

    The thing that irks me the most is that when the first book came out, Rothfuss said in an interview that he had already written the whole story and would be releasing it in 3 books, a book per year. That sounded great to me, so I bought the first book. Then Rothfuss went back on his word. Repeatedly. And he has the gall to accuse his customers of being unfairly impatient with him.

    In any other business, Rothfuss would be a pariah for his behavior. The whole “I’m an artist and I need to find my muse to create” whine is utter BS. Lots of other people are creative on a deadline. Look at TV writers, or movie screenplay writers for movie trilogies. They are expected to create on a deadline, and they do.

    Drawing it out like this and milking his customers would be bad enough if Rothfuss had not started with the promise of a book a year. But having broken his promise to release the books in a timely manner, and then having the gall to tell the fans that they are being unfair to him — well, it completely ruins his reputation as far as I am concerned. He will never get another cent from me.

  16. Avatar Matt says:

    I read the the first book in the series and honestly, I thought it sucked big time. Yes, Patrick Rothfuss is incredibly clever but I was extremely disappointed that the highlight of the story was a 5 ton, herbivorous, junky lizard. I was also disappointed that his main character is in love with a whore that won’t give him the time of day. I think if this series was going to more then 3 books, it might interest me but the first book was wasted space, nothing happened, oh wait I take that back…the first book set the stage….seriously? is that all you have to offer Mr. Rothfuss? A setting of a stage? I don’t know, I don’t think he will deliver when it comes to the story and what he says you can expect.

  17. Avatar Tom says:

    I once waited years for a follow-up book. Checked the bookstore faithfully. It was so frustrating and I don’t want to go through that again.
    Thanks for the first two books but I think it’s time for me to move on.
    If I hadn’t read that the entire series had been finished years ago, I might be a little more patient.

  18. Avatar Sandi J says:

    Between this series and GoT, Outlander and Clan of the Cave Bears I feel burned. I vow to never start reading another series until it is complete.

  19. Avatar AReader says:

    For me, the Author has brought upon us a “silence of three parts”.

    The most obvious part, is a loud silence. This silence is heard by all. It is the silence of the pen, the silence of not writing what should be written.

    The second silence is a slow fading silence. It is the slow fading of the story itself. The untold story of Kvothe is, bit by bit growing farther away from us as time passes.

    The third silence may not be an easy thing for the Author to notice, for it is =my= silence. It is a sad and bitter silence. It is a silence that is result of frustration and despair. It is the silence, of not telling others about this series.

  20. Avatar Michael A says:

    To Pat,

    First of all, I would like to say how much I enjoyed books 1 and 2 and think that both are equally fantastic. The first book was a struggle to get into, but Im glad that I persevered with it, and while others may criticize book 2, I thought it was epic in scope. I admit to being frustrated with the wait, but if it means YOUR happy with it, then I know its the best it can be. After all, nobody is a harsher critic of your works than the author who wrote it, right?

    However, that said, I would really appreciate a release date albeit a rough estimate i.e. 2015? 2016?

    Oh and FYI, best books ive ever read. So thankyou.

    And I dont believe your milking it.

  21. Avatar Druid says:

    To everyone that has read Patrick Rothfuss’s first two books, and if he happens to read this, Patrick Rothfuss himself…

    Many people on this site have very valid points and arguments; from saying deadlines should be respected, to fans should be patient, and other kinds of views. I am not a writer. I wouldn’t have the patience or the tenacity to stay on track. Nor would I want to create a world where I couldn’t enjoy the wonders, the magic, or the people because I would have to write the details page by page. That would have no appeal to me, but I enjoy reading other peoples works. To me, reading a great book is like entering that world, becoming that person, living their lives, having your heart speed up when you enter battle, or seeing your favorite character change through the story growing, falling in love, or maybe change from good to bad or bad to good.

    I have read book 1 probably a dozen times, and the same with book 2. I was sad when Kvothe found his family dead. I laughed when Kvothe gave Master Hemme a sympathetic burn. My eyes teared up when he played to get his talent pipes. There are other books, other worlds, and only so many hours, that one can only read a pittance of the literary treasure out there. So, yes, it has been years and a few deadlines past, but it is a new world. It is a piece of his soul that he is sharing with the world; let him enjoy his life and have a little more patience. I am sure in the long run, his work will satisfy or at least slake enough of our thirst till the next great work of literature.

  22. […] would make me a very happy person. And, look, I made it though a whole blog post without mentioning book 3 […]

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