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Offline K.S. Crooks

Re: Most creatures have a predator adapted to prey on them...
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2017, 04:19:25 PM »
Well in the real world the deadliest creatures against humans are bacteria and viruses. A species that can intentionally infect another with a virus made from itself. The virus then either kills or turns the person into a member of the infecting species (of course any variation of outcome is possible); A species that can enter human thoughts and change some aspect of our behaviour or consciousness; Something that can take gaseous form and fill a person's lungs- they could be poisonous or simply suffocate; A being that can change their appearance.
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Offline RLStevenson

Re: Most creatures have a predator adapted to prey on them...
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2017, 08:37:21 PM »
I would always first look at nature. One of the most successful modern predators are wolves, especially for their ability to hunt in groups and work together. If you want a creature that hunts alone, you might look to the cat family. If you've never seen a tiger take down prey, it is bloodcurdling. It crushes its prey's neck before the prey is even aware of the tiger. Or the South American jaguar - those guys eat caimans. So I would adapt a creature based on those.
Another idea is looking at prehistoric animals. An actual predator of ancient humans (and one of the terrifying creatures I've ever seen) is andrewsarchus. Have a look at it!
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Re: Most creatures have a predator adapted to prey on them...
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2017, 11:08:05 PM »
Ahummm... I'm sorry to say @RLStevenson, but andrewsarchus, predator of humans? How?
The creature lived and died in the middle of the Eocene epoch! The first hominids appeared at the very, very end of the Miocene. So there is like 40 million years of difference between andrewsarchus and primitive hominids.

edit : I think it's scary enough that we shared earth-time with smilodons as it is...



Though apparently it went extinct because it was too specialised and too dumb to change when its population of prey stopped showing up...
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2017, 01:19:20 AM »


Ahummm... I'm sorry to say @RLStevenson, but andrewsarchus, predator of humans? How?

It's fantasy.  I don't mean to be blunt about it but I don't see what difference it makes when the creature was alive. Unless of course it's a problem with suspension of disbelief.

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Re: Most creatures have a predator adapted to prey on them...
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2017, 09:43:44 AM »


Ahummm... I'm sorry to say @RLStevenson, but andrewsarchus, predator of humans? How?

It's fantasy.  I don't mean to be blunt about it but I don't see what difference it makes when the creature was alive. Unless of course it's a problem with suspension of disbelief.

Err, I'm sorry, I'm answering to a post that says :

An actual predator of ancient humans (and one of the terrifying creatures I've ever seen) is andrewsarchus. Have a look at it!

So to me it reads like we're talking about "actual" facts, not suspension of disbelief. I might be mistaken and he might mean "imagine if Man and Andrewsarchus had lived alongside each other" — and that would be just as correct, in the light of fantasy, as human riding dinos, which I back with all my passion — but it's not what I understood, so no, I'm not answering in the light of fantasy.
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Re: Most creatures have a predator adapted to prey on them...
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2017, 11:08:45 AM »


Ahummm... I'm sorry to say @RLStevenson, but andrewsarchus, predator of humans? How?

It's fantasy.  I don't mean to be blunt about it but I don't see what difference it makes when the creature was alive. Unless of course it's a problem with suspension of disbelief.

Err, I'm sorry, I'm answering to a post that says :

An actual predator of ancient humans (and one of the terrifying creatures I've ever seen) is andrewsarchus. Have a look at it!

So to me it reads like we're talking about "actual" facts, not suspension of disbelief. I might be mistaken and he might mean "imagine if Man and Andrewsarchus had lived alongside each other" — and that would be just as correct, in the light of fantasy, as human riding dinos, which I back with all my passion — but it's not what I understood, so no, I'm not answering in the light of fantasy.
Fair enough,  now I look at it the way you did I see what you mean.  My apologies.

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Re: Most creatures have a predator adapted to prey on them...
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2017, 11:29:22 AM »
No need to apologise, it's no worries, just a matter of interpretation. I wouldn't be this nitpicky if I read it as a fantasy setting, but I do enjoy my pre historical times, so I was feeling half anal about sorting the dates, half doing it because I'd want to be corrected if I had my eras mixed. I hope I wasn't too rough about it.   :-X
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Re: Most creatures have a predator adapted to prey on them...
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2017, 04:47:20 PM »
Ok, but you're all missing out on how Andrewsarchus is far too similar to Andrew Serkis.

So the real hunter here is Gollum.
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Re: Most creatures have a predator adapted to prey on them...
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2017, 07:52:52 PM »
BREAKING: Scientists reveal that Andrewsarchus was just Andy Serkis with a time machine and a mo-cap suit.
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Re: Most creatures have a predator adapted to prey on them...
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2017, 11:33:06 PM »
No need to apologise, it's no worries, just a matter of interpretation. I wouldn't be this nitpicky if I read it as a fantasy setting, but I do enjoy my pre historical times, so I was feeling half anal about sorting the dates, half doing it because I'd want to be corrected if I had my eras mixed. I hope I wasn't too rough about it.   :-X

My bad... *wipes egg off my face* That was just a faux pas on my end, which is especially embarrassing considering I've studied prehistoric/physical anthropology in depth. As I was writing that, I think I just mixed up Smilodon and Andrewsarchus. Thanks for the catch! At any rate, a predator like Andrewsarchus would be pretty terrifying in a fantasy setting.
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