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Totally not worth it’s own thread, but...
« on: January 14, 2018, 12:33:51 PM »
I couldn’t remember where to put a question like this.

Does anyone know the right words for the rope end or loop that lifted a door latch, and which could be pulled into the house if strangers weren’t welcome, or left dangling if they were?

I’ve read about this in the context of the pioneer days in the American West, for context.
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Re: Totally not worth it’s own thread, but...
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2018, 01:06:41 PM »
Isn't it a latch? Or bolt?
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Re: Totally not worth it’s own thread, but...
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2018, 01:11:35 PM »
You are talking about a aecurity door chain system right?
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Re: Totally not worth it’s own thread, but...
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2018, 03:59:47 PM »
No, I don't know the word. And those kinds of terms can be tough to find. @Rostum might know?
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Re: Totally not worth it’s own thread, but...
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2018, 09:37:08 PM »
I know to what you refer but not by name. In the UK a different method was employed. The latch was lifted from outside through a slot you inserted a latchkey into the slot. This was often curved to stop a dagger being used to do the job. I think your method was used as metal work was expensive and heavy to transport.a lot of doors worked on a post rather than hinges a bit like how Lego doors work.

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Re: Totally not worth it’s own thread, but...
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2018, 04:35:17 PM »
It's a security chain. Very common to allow you to open door a few inches. Used to be in hotels too. Still common in Irish homes. Some people fit fish-eye lenses to see visitor (very old). A few people have cameras (wired to TV since 1970s, though now might be insecure Web cam to phone!).
There is a slot for knob of chain. Can only be unhooked when door is closed. Door doesn't open enough for an adult hand /arm to reach in.

As an aside, we had to block the letter box slot in front door and put a new one over at the side. A child could put their hand in and turn the lock knob! We also fitted deadlocks front and back. Traditionally in UK & Ireland, the back door used a cheap lock like the indoor locks and about 30 keys would open any of them in the region! People usually fitted snibs (bolts) top & bottom of door for going away or overnight, but a proper lock is better.
Our old door had the chain. I've been meaning to fit the fish-eye lens to the new PVC door that we got when we upgraded to double glazing.
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Re: Totally not worth it’s own thread, but...
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2018, 04:58:34 PM »
I think Jmack was asking about a much more primitive device using rope in much earlier times.
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Re: Totally not worth it’s own thread, but...
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2018, 09:28:13 PM »
history of door latches
search on that. A huge range comes up, but maybe you'll find something. For stuff like this I'll also go to the Internet Archive and to Google Books. Especially when searching for a word or phrase, there's nothing quite like old books (pre-WWI).

More broadly you might try
history of domestic architecture
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Re: Totally not worth it’s own thread, but...
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2018, 04:45:43 AM »
@Jmack If you want to move this conversation, it would fit perfectly here in "Fantasy Word Choice Funtime":

http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?topic=11145.0
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