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Re: Fantasy word choice funtime
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2018, 09:31:53 PM »
In a 1600s era fantasy can you have a balaclava?

Possibly a better point is: can you have a balaclava in a world that didn't have a Battle of Balaclava? (But wikipedia has not just history of the garment, but what it was known as before that battle...)

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Re: Fantasy word choice funtime
« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2018, 10:51:40 PM »
In a 1600s era fantasy can you have a balaclava?

Possibly a better point is: can you have a balaclava in a world that didn't have a Battle of Balaclava? (But wikipedia has not just history of the garment, but what it was known as before that battle...)

Yeah monkey cap doesn't have the same ring to it and no one is going to know what that is...

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Re: Fantasy word choice funtime
« Reply #62 on: April 11, 2018, 04:18:02 PM »
Ok etymology question: why is a woodland called a hollow??? If anything its more filled up than hollow

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Re: Fantasy word choice funtime
« Reply #63 on: April 20, 2018, 10:43:55 AM »
I want to make a new website to track the development of my wilderness Sword & Sorcery stories, and it needs a title.

"Beneath the Leaves of Kaendor" appeals to me, but is "beneath" the correct word here? And is there a more poetic alternative for "leaves"? (And it might be spelled "leafs", have to look that up later.)
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Re: Fantasy word choice funtime
« Reply #64 on: April 20, 2018, 11:27:47 AM »
I want to make a new website to track the development of my wilderness Sword & Sorcery stories, and it needs a title.

"Beneath the Leaves of Kaendor" appeals to me, but is "beneath" the correct word here? And is there a more poetic alternative for "leaves"? (And it might be spelled "leafs", have to look that up later.)
Hmmm... I think the correct word is "underneath".
Also, the only other word I could think of, instead of "leaves" is "petals".

Something like this :

"Underneath the Petals of Kaendor"

But I don't quite like it, maybe you could add a word to leaf instead and make it :

"Underneath the Leaf Blades of Kaendor"




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Re: Fantasy word choice funtime
« Reply #65 on: April 20, 2018, 11:46:41 AM »
Ok etymology question: why is a woodland called a hollow??? If anything its more filled up than hollow

I like those.
I think it refers to the void of human civilization.

It's hollow/empty from the humans or the specific humans pov since nothing of value exists there.
That's my take but I could be wrong.

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Damn, not only did I double post but i quoted the posts in the wrong order.
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Re: Fantasy word choice funtime
« Reply #66 on: April 20, 2018, 11:49:44 AM »
I want to make a new website to track the development of my wilderness Sword & Sorcery stories, and it needs a title.

"Beneath the Leaves of Kaendor" appeals to me, but is "beneath" the correct word here? And is there a more poetic alternative for "leaves"? (And it might be spelled "leafs", have to look that up later.)

You could use ‘below’ , but please don’t spell as leafs.

ETA just saw query re ‘hollow’. It is not a woodland, as such, but a smallish valley between hills. Of course it could have hollow trees in it.  :P
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Re: Fantasy word choice funtime
« Reply #67 on: April 20, 2018, 12:52:31 PM »
Hollow for woodland probably comes from the various dips and hollows of uneven land that make it unsuitable for ploughing and farming, and as such it's left wild. Or at last that would make sense to me.

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Re: Fantasy word choice funtime
« Reply #68 on: April 20, 2018, 12:56:58 PM »
I want to make a new website to track the development of my wilderness Sword & Sorcery stories, and it needs a title.

"Beneath the Leaves of Kaendor" appeals to me, but is "beneath" the correct word here? And is there a more poetic alternative for "leaves"? (And it might be spelled "leafs", have to look that up later.)

You could use ‘below’ , but please don’t spell as leafs.

ETA just saw query re ‘hollow’. It is not a woodland, as such, but a smallish valley between hills. Of course it could have hollow trees in it.  :P

Well, that's what happens when you answer questions on intuition.
You are right Lady Ty the meaning of hollow is not woodland but valley or basin.

I'm guessing the confusion stems from the fact that most valleys/holows in fantasy settings are woodlands.
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Re: Fantasy word choice funtime
« Reply #69 on: April 20, 2018, 06:07:58 PM »
You could use ‘below’
Below was my first idea. Beneath was the more fanciful upgrade I came up with later.  8) Though I was wondering if the two are really interchangeable, or whether one of them would sound off to native speakers.
Hmmm... I think the correct word is "underneath".
I can't put my finger on why, but somehow underneath feels like a too "extreme" variant of "under" for standing between trees. Underneath makes me think more of being underground. Is that just my false intuition as a non-native speaker, or does it actually have any such conotation?

But I guess my own intuition was already putting me in the right spot.
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Re: Fantasy word choice funtime
« Reply #70 on: April 20, 2018, 07:00:55 PM »
You could use ‘below’
Below was my first idea. Beneath was the more fanciful upgrade I came up with later.  8) Though I was wondering if the two are really interchangeable, or whether one of them would sound off to native speakers.
Hmmm... I think the correct word is "underneath".
I can't put my finger on why, but somehow underneath feels like a too "extreme" variant of "under" for standing between trees. Underneath makes me think more of being underground. Is that just my false intuition as a non-native speaker, or does it actually have any such conotation?

But I guess my own intuition was already putting me in the right spot.

I did a google search and found this :

https://www.myenglishteacher.eu/ask/question/difference-between-beneath-under-underneath-and-below/

Seems logical the way it describes each word.
You were half right, your intuition was correct that "underneath"  has the wrong connotation for this phrase but it seems that it's about layers.

Well, English isn't my native language either so when I inform or correct people with false facts  I try to have confidence to keep people, more knowledgeable  than me, guessing.  ;D
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