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Offline Tiffany Kysis Tackett

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2011, 03:54:52 PM »
When I do use emotion in a fight scene, ie, the person isn't calloused to it, or something emotionally jarring just happened to influence them, they normally have to get saved, since they aren't thinking straight, and are making a lot of mistakes.  Usually they end up having to get saved from the situation, considering.

I've written a character who is cocky and loves toying with the enemy, and has that kind of thrill from being able to slap someone around like that.  I also wrote that character having too much fun during the fight, underestimating an opponent, and getting demolished because of it.  That also helped for a later battle, because he's sobered up a bit and is fighting seriously for the climax.  I should really pick up writing that book again....

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Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2011, 10:56:06 PM »
Great advice and astounding insight. Thanks for sharing.
I remember reading one of Janny Wurtz's novels in the Mistwraith series... not sure which one but the fight scene went forever. I think it was over twelve *yawn* pages. I remember searching for the end of the fight and putting the book down. Her English skills are brilliant but sometimes I feel her storytelling lets her down.
Recently I have watched some mediaeval re enactment fights. You are right. They don't last long. They are confused and not like Hollywood at all, but judging from the bruises and the cuts.. they have an authentic feel to them.

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Offline The Mad Hatter

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2011, 02:42:02 AM »
I remember reading one of Janny Wurtz's novels in the Mistwraith series... not sure which one but the fight scene went forever. I think it was over twelve *yawn* pages.

I gather it was a great cure for insomnia :)

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Offline Mark Lawrence

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2011, 08:54:21 PM »
OK... so three questions:

1. What makes a good Fight Scene?
2. What makes a bad Fight Scene?
3. Who writes the best Fight Scenes?

1. You really need to care who wins. (i.e. build your characters first)
2. Clunky mechanical detail
3. I've always been very impressed by David Gemmell's fight scenes.


Offline Overlord

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2011, 10:49:06 AM »
Probably my favourite thread on the forum - thanks for your insight Mark :)
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Offline UnforgivingMuse

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2011, 12:07:30 PM »
This has been a very enlightening thread.
I've only written three fight scenes in anger. Two are in my current WIP. Having all these insights should give me a better critical approach to editing those scenes.

So thanks.

Offline Libertine

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2011, 01:16:39 PM »
I am in the middle of writing a major battle in my WiP and it kind of stopped me in my tracks. My MC is sassy and cheeky but has had to learn how to use a sword. She's dealing with the emotional side of killing but for reasons I can't reveal is being driven on by a force she can't stop. I was actually worried that it was moving too quickly and I wasn't using enough technical stuff in it but reading through this thread has put my mind at ease. So, here's what I'm going to use, based on these comments:

1 Pace, emotion, reality checks, realism and enough to draw other characters in.
2 Not too much technical stuff, no longer than it currently is (I was thinking about padding it out a bit!) and hopefully make sure the reader isn't detached from the characters during the action.

3 With any luck and a bit of effort, maybe in a couple of years my stuff will appear in this bit   ;D

Thanks for all the information, what a fab thread, more like these please!!
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Offline Overlord

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2011, 02:17:35 PM »
OK... so three questions:

1. What makes a good Fight Scene?
2. What makes a bad Fight Scene?
3. Who writes the best Fight Scenes?

1. You really need to care who wins. (i.e. build your characters first)
2. Clunky mechanical detail
3. I've always been very impressed by David Gemmell's fight scenes.


Based on Mark's recommendation I purchased 'Legend' by David Gemmell :)

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Offline Mark Lawrence

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2011, 12:13:36 PM »
> Based on Mark's recommendation I purchased 'Legend' by David Gemmell

Astonishingly he wrote this book in 2 weeks after he had been diagnosed (wrongly) with terminal cancer!

Offline The Mad Hatter

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2011, 03:57:15 PM »
> Based on Mark's recommendation I purchased 'Legend' by David Gemmell

Astonishingly he wrote this book in 2 weeks after he had been diagnosed (wrongly) with terminal cancer!

Um, well, talk about motivation to get the book down. And then motivation to kill the doctor who'd messed up the diagnosis!

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Offline Minesril

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2011, 11:34:17 AM »
There's a good article on Derek Landy's (probably my favourite children's author) blog about fight scenes:

http://dereklandy.blogspot.com/

You need to scroll down a bit, though.  It's entitled 'Molly'.

Offline professional-liar

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2011, 07:22:24 PM »
@ Minesril Have you read any of Derek Landy's books?  How are the fight scenes?
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Offline Minesril

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2011, 08:43:15 AM »
Well, I'm not a fighter.  I would go so far as to say that I'm someone who even tries to stay out of arguments; I'm not fond of causing physcial or mental pain to people.  So it might be difficult for me to judge!

However I absolutely love the Skulduggery books and the action is, as far as I can tell, really well done.  It's a good mix of different types of magic, old school weapons like swords, hand to hand combat, and Skulduggery even has a revolver.  (I think.)  People do get hurt, sometimes killed.  They even have a grumpy old man they go to to get their bones fixed!

Seriously, do yourself a favour and buy the first one.  And then the other four!

Offline Libertine

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2011, 07:48:07 PM »
Minesril, thanks so much for posting the link, that blog post has just changed the way I think about fight scenes. Just the phrase about the bouncers having to be more violent than the other guy just to win really woke me up.
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Offline professional-liar

Re: Fight Scenes...
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2011, 11:16:15 PM »
Minesril, I'll definitely grab a copy.  I'm working on a combat driven YA work, so your suggestion is well-timed.
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