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Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2015, 06:45:31 PM »
Interesting topic. I wont add anything about weapons (later I might write a few lines about archery, although I know basic stuff, but learned them from a real master), just want to remind you on something: more writing, less exploring and world building. :D

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Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2015, 07:18:38 PM »
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Interesting topic. I wont add anything about weapons (later I might write a few lines about archery, although I know basic stuff, but learned them from a real master), just want to remind you on something: more writing, less exploring and world building. :D

Please do post regarding plinking arrows. I wish I could write. Sadly I have a head full of ideas some knowledge and the ability to produce a training manual if I try and write fiction.

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Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2015, 07:22:45 PM »
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Interesting topic. I wont add anything about weapons (later I might write a few lines about archery, although I know basic stuff, but learned them from a real master), just want to remind you on something: more writing, less exploring and world building. :D

Please do post regarding plinking arrows. I wish I could write. Sadly I have a head full of ideas some knowledge and the ability to produce a training manual if I try and write fiction.
May just have to use you as live resource manual.   ;) Sparingly ;D
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2015, 07:36:54 PM »
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May just have to use you as live resource manual.   ;) Sparingly ;D

Please do.

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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2015, 10:41:09 PM »
Excellent thread!

There is a video on YouTube with Lars Anderson showing off his archery techniques. Does anyone know how accurate this portrayal of archery is? He makes some interesting points with how the weapon is fired compared to modern bows.

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Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2015, 10:43:08 PM »
Excellent thread!

There is a video on YouTube with Lars Anderson showing off his archery techniques. Does anyone know how accurate this portrayal of archery is? He makes some interesting points with how the weapon is fired compared to modern bows.
There's a full thread on it, including someone's critique.
I don;t know how to link threads here. If you search the forum for "Lars Anderson" I'm sure it will pop up.
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Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2015, 10:56:46 PM »
Excellent thread!

There is a video on YouTube with Lars Anderson showing off his archery techniques. Does anyone know how accurate this portrayal of archery is? He makes some interesting points with how the weapon is fired compared to modern bows.
There's a full thread on it, including someone's critique.
I don;t know how to link threads here. If you search the forum for "Lars Anderson" I'm sure it will pop up.

Hi night_wrtr here is the thread,  there was a good long discussion  http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/general-discussion/genuine-real-archery/
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2015, 10:58:32 PM »
Thanks!

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Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2015, 11:06:47 PM »
Excellent thread!

There is a video on YouTube with Lars Anderson showing off his archery techniques. Does anyone know how accurate this portrayal of archery is? He makes some interesting points with how the weapon is fired compared to modern bows.
There's a full thread on it, including someone's critique.
I don;t know how to link threads here. If you search the forum for "Lars Anderson" I'm sure it will pop up.

Hi night_wrtr here is the thread,  there was a good long discussion  http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/general-discussion/genuine-real-archery/
@Lady Ty, how do I get the exact http for a thread link?
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Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2015, 11:48:41 PM »
Just a direct thanks to Yora for giving me the clue for understanding the etymology of Messerschmidt!

Well, and for the sword stuff too.  :D
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Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2015, 12:47:00 AM »
Great topic, and wow at @Yora's lengthy post, really informative!

I have little to contribute in regards to this question. I know of a particular mistake that is done in videogames and movies with fight scenes using swords, and that is to have two blokes crossing their blades for a long time. Especially when it comes to the Japanese Samurai, they trained to be able to kill / defeat their opponent with as few strikes as possible, to keep the blade sharp - it actually gets blunt faster than most people think.

As for the Portuguese-Japanese interaction question raised off-topic, I am no expert in that matter. The Katana word actually made its way from Japan to Portugal, and there's some debate as to whether the Japanese for 'Thank you', Arigato, comes from the Portuguese Obrigado, which sound very similarly. The Portuguese Jesuits were also the first real propagandists for the spread of Christianity in Japan, and the first to present a Gunpowder weapon to the archipelago. Oh, these were also the first Europeans to bring tea back to the West from Japan, so yeah, you owe us that my British friends  ;) Unfortunately, I know little more than this - I have always focused on the study of Islam, and so am more familiar with Portuguese relations with Northern Africa, Middle-East and India at the time of the Mughal Empire  :)
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Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2015, 01:39:53 AM »
Excellent thread!

There is a video on YouTube with Lars Anderson showing off his archery techniques. Does anyone know how accurate this portrayal of archery is? He makes some interesting points with how the weapon is fired compared to modern bows.
There's a full thread on it, including someone's critique.
I don;t know how to link threads here. If you search the forum for "Lars Anderson" I'm sure it will pop up.

Hi night_wrtr here is the thread,  there was a good long discussion  http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/general-discussion/genuine-real-archery/
@Lady Ty, how do I get the exact http for a thread link?

Go to thread itself. Click left on http at top, to highlight, click right to copy then come back to original thread and click right and paste.   Does that make sense? Same as usual links but you need to know which thread on this huge forumand I began this one so knew where it was.  ;)
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Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2015, 02:28:19 AM »
Excellent thread!

There is a video on YouTube with Lars Anderson showing off his archery techniques. Does anyone know how accurate this portrayal of archery is? He makes some interesting points with how the weapon is fired compared to modern bows.
There's a full thread on it, including someone's critique.
I don;t know how to link threads here. If you search the forum for "Lars Anderson" I'm sure it will pop up.

Hi night_wrtr here is the thread,  there was a good long discussion  http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/general-discussion/genuine-real-archery/
@Lady Ty, how do I get the exact http for a thread link?

Go to thread itself. Click left on http at top, to highlight, click right to copy then come back to original thread and click right and paste.   Does that make sense? Same as usual links but you need to know which thread on this huge forumand I began this one so knew where it was.  ;)
Got it. Thanks!
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Offline CameronJohnston

Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2015, 08:45:18 AM »
Oh I have lots of problem with the way fighting, weapons and armor are depicted in fiction but usually just roll with it. I have a fair bit experience via HEMA with the highland broadsword (a lot applicable to arming sword), some longsword, sword and targe/buckler, quarterstaff (awesome weapon!), sword & dagger and bayonet.

Some of my pet peeves:
- A full medieval-esque army all wearing plate...when it is so stupidly expensive and customized.
- Choosing normal swords to up against fully plate-armored knights rather than, say a mace, axe or a flail that has a much better chance of blunt force trauma or penetration.
- Swords cleaving plate like cheese, lopping off armored heads and arms and whatnot with ease.
- Sword vs sword fighting...and no mention of grabs, kicks, punches, footwork etc.
- Swords locked together for ages, heaving against each other (Youtube 'longsword winding' for what should happen)

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Offline DDRRead

Re: Ancient and medieval fighting and weapons
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2015, 09:33:01 AM »
Hey,@Yora this guy has some good axe and shield techniques . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFs4wP_hByA

. . . and on the subject of viking techniques this guy has a really interesting theory on shield usag . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkhpqAGdZPc
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