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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2016, 08:18:33 PM »
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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2016, 10:41:23 PM »
That sucks. I just finished doing a reread in preparation, too.
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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2016, 11:51:39 PM »
I blame the Publishers on this one. If you're author hasn't even turned in the book at least three months before your deadline, you shouldn't lead people on like that. I'm not surprised that the book isn't coming out, but considering that I actually forgot it was supposed to next month, no wonder.

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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2016, 01:07:29 AM »
That sucks. I just finished doing a reread in preparation, too.

Have been doing a reread ön the side of main reading for a few weeks, but I'll never remember enough detail past a year, so will hold off now. Agree it sucks, but appreciate Scott Lynch giving a perfectly reasonable explanation, thanks for posting ScarletBea.

Wonder if I should start a Kvothe reread yet ? Probably not. ::)
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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2016, 01:11:06 AM »
I still need to read the third one!

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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2016, 09:41:34 AM »
I still need to read the third one!
Me too! Now probably closer to a potentially more realistic release date.
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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2016, 06:04:48 PM »
I blame the Publishers on this one. If you're author hasn't even turned in the book at least three months before your deadline, you shouldn't lead people on like that. I'm not surprised that the book isn't coming out, but considering that I actually forgot it was supposed to next month, no wonder.

Yeah I don't really get this.  At the time the announcement was made I would have thought the book would have needed to be completed at that time so that the printers could get started in order make a September publication date.

I've started to wonder why I give Lynch a pass with his delays that I don't give Martin or Rothfuss.   I know his open bouts with depression definitely factors into that but when I read his reasoning for this delay it reminds me of the Rothfuss fuss from November of last year and it really puts me off.

Last November Rothfuss went on a screed (I never use that word, I like the sound of it) about how he wanted to play Fallout but couldn't because of all of his other responsibilities.  I can sympathize with that, I would love to have some more free time to do the things I want to do but I need to go to work every day and when I come home its family time.  After my oldest daughter goes to bed it becomes Hedin time but by that time I only have maybe 2 hours at the most (and most of the time less than that) before its time for me to go to bed.  I certainly would not bedrudge Rothfuss or anyone else if they decided to take a day off and play games or do whatever hobby makes them happy, I've certainly done that I would encourage other people to do so.  What bothers me was that Rothfuss was making it seem like a binary choice, he could either work or play games but not do both and it's tough for me to feel any sympathy because me and millions of other people juggle both each day.

When I read Lynch's reasoning of moving and wedding planning I have similar feelings.  I have done both of these activities and neither one ended up interfering with my work life other than taking a week of vacation for moving and week off for our honeymoon.  And I hope that he did take the appropriate time off to do those things, we all deserve our time off, but once it again its coming off as a binary where he could either move/wedding plan but not work.  Now I know writing isn't your typical 9-to-5 job but I also have a hard time feeling sympathy about missed deadlines when the excuses are things that I've had to deal with every day of my adult working life.

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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2016, 06:21:15 PM »
Scott Lynch previously had to wrestle with anxiety attacks and depression after his personal life took a pounding, which naturally led to the long time delays for the third book.

He's clearly in a much happier space now thankfully, and I have no doubt he'll be right on track soon. :)

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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2016, 06:28:20 PM »
Glad he was able to drive on. Life's a helluva thing - none of us make it out here alive.
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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2016, 12:05:16 AM »
I blame the Publishers on this one. If you're author hasn't even turned in the book at least three months before your deadline, you shouldn't lead people on like that. I'm not surprised that the book isn't coming out, but considering that I actually forgot it was supposed to next month, no wonder.

Yeah I don't really get this.  At the time the announcement was made I would have thought the book would have needed to be completed at that time so that the printers could get started in order make a September publication date.

I've started to wonder why I give Lynch a pass with his delays that I don't give Martin or Rothfuss.   I know his open bouts with depression definitely factors into that but when I read his reasoning for this delay it reminds me of the Rothfuss fuss from November of last year and it really puts me off.

Last November Rothfuss went on a screed (I never use that word, I like the sound of it) about how he wanted to play Fallout but couldn't because of all of his other responsibilities.  I can sympathize with that, I would love to have some more free time to do the things I want to do but I need to go to work every day and when I come home its family time.  After my oldest daughter goes to bed it becomes Hedin time but by that time I only have maybe 2 hours at the most (and most of the time less than that) before its time for me to go to bed.  I certainly would not bedrudge Rothfuss or anyone else if they decided to take a day off and play games or do whatever hobby makes them happy, I've certainly done that I would encourage other people to do so.  What bothers me was that Rothfuss was making it seem like a binary choice, he could either work or play games but not do both and it's tough for me to feel any sympathy because me and millions of other people juggle both each day.

When I read Lynch's reasoning of moving and wedding planning I have similar feelings.  I have done both of these activities and neither one ended up interfering with my work life other than taking a week of vacation for moving and week off for our honeymoon.  And I hope that he did take the appropriate time off to do those things, we all deserve our time off, but once it again its coming off as a binary where he could either move/wedding plan but not work.  Now I know writing isn't your typical 9-to-5 job but I also have a hard time feeling sympathy about missed deadlines when the excuses are things that I've had to deal with every day of my adult working life.
I agree wholeheartedly. While I still put lots of blame on the Publishers for leading the fans on, this just looks like a case of bad time management skills. In this last post, he makes it seem as though depression didn't have much to do with it. My sympathy has its limits.

Also, my philosophy gets in the way of this as well. One of my favorite sayings is, "The question isn't why you can't do it, but how you can." If he really wanted to write this book (depression aside) you can make time. Look at Brian McKlellan. He just moved like Lynch did, and has been writing novelas, selling them without much help from his publisher. Brent Weeks has had two kids in the past 2 or 3 years, and while his series has been growing longer, books are still coming out at a steady rate. Peter V. Brett takes care of his daughter, goes to the gym, goes on dates with his girlfriend, has been in Poland all week, and yet he still has books coming out at a steady rate. All this is to say, time management skills, and setting your priorities straight, are the keys to success.

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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2016, 12:28:36 AM »
Dangerously introducing my two cents...

I know neither of the people you're discussing, but there was a mention of depression and anxiety involving at least one, and those things impact life and work the way mud impacts warfare - slows things to a halt and makes progress uncertain. There are excuses that we use when we don't do what we should do, and there are excuses we use when we can't do what we should do. Neither hold up to scrutiny, but when someone's mental health is working against them, perhaps there are other areas more worthy of scrutiny, especially in an open forum.

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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2016, 01:02:41 AM »
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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2016, 02:49:23 AM »
Dangerously introducing my two cents...

I know neither of the people you're discussing, but there was a mention of depression and anxiety involving at least one, and those things impact life and work the way mud impacts warfare - slows things to a halt and makes progress uncertain. There are excuses that we use when we don't do what we should do, and there are excuses we use when we can't do what we should do. Neither hold up to scrutiny, but when someone's mental health is working against them, perhaps there are other areas more worthy of scrutiny, especially in an open forum.

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Right, and I would agree with you... But like I said, he doesn't make it seem like depression mostly caused the book delay.

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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2016, 07:02:51 AM »
I've got nothing to add here I just want to say Gem Cutter needs to read Scott Lynch Novels if he doesn't I say we kick him back into facebook obscurity never to be seen again.

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Re: Thorn of Emberlain in July
« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2016, 11:36:01 AM »
I've got nothing to add here I just want to say Gem Cutter needs to read Scott Lynch Novels if he doesn't I say we kick him back into facebook obscurity never to be seen again.

READ LIES OF LOCKE LAMORA now

This ^.
In fact, I htink we need to create a very short, say 5, novel reading list for our favorite 50-year old ex-army newbie.

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