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Poll

which Richard Morgan book is your favorite?

Altered Carbon
2 (66.7%)
Broken Angels
0 (0%)
Woken Furies
0 (0%)
Market Forces
0 (0%)
The Steel Remains
1 (33.3%)
Thirteen (aka Black Man)
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 3

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Offline missoularedhead

favorite Richard Morgan
« on: April 13, 2011, 08:32:39 AM »
So, Richard Morgan may be slow to get 'em into our waiting hands, but they're worth waiting for. For a long time, I really thought Thirteen was my favorite, but in a recent re-read, I gotta admit, I'm still hung up on Takeshi Kovacs...
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

Offline pornokitsch

Re: favorite Richard Morgan
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2011, 09:56:24 AM »
I think Altered Carbon is the best - proper cyberpunk noir sf coolness - but Market Forces is the one I enjoy the most.

Offline missoularedhead

Re: favorite Richard Morgan
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2011, 05:07:01 PM »
It is rather a romp, isn't it? I did like the reductio ad absurdam of the corporate world (and on an LA freeway, gimme one of those cars!)
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

Offline pornokitsch

Re: favorite Richard Morgan
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2011, 09:39:17 PM »
It is rather a romp, isn't it? I did like the reductio ad absurdam of the corporate world (and on an LA freeway, gimme one of those cars!)

Have you read Robert Asprin's The Cold Cash War? One of his early books and very similar. Corporations settle their issues with war games & hired mercenaries. Then one ambitious exec suggests that all the company types be considered "fair game" as well... all goes bonkers from there. A bit cold war hysterical, but good fun.

Offline missoularedhead

Re: favorite Richard Morgan
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2011, 04:59:48 AM »
I have yet to read ANY Asprin, mostly because his punning books just put me off. But I will see if I can scrounge it up!
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

Offline pornokitsch

Re: favorite Richard Morgan
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2011, 02:24:08 PM »
I have yet to read ANY Asprin, mostly because his punning books just put me off. But I will see if I can scrounge it up!

The MYTH ones? The early ones are actually pretty good - they're not Anthony-level puntastic, it is mostly just the titles and some early series insecurities.

Offline nilling

Re: favorite Richard Morgan
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 09:50:36 AM »
I think Altered Carbon is the best - proper cyberpunk noir sf coolness - but Market Forces is the one I enjoy the most.


My brother gave me his holiday-reading copy a couple of years ago, it's still on the TBR list but may move it up now ;)
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Offline Winter

Re: favorite Richard Morgan
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2011, 10:03:36 AM »
I think Altered Carbon is the best - proper cyberpunk noir sf coolness - but Market Forces is the one I enjoy the most.


Glad I'm not the only one. Market Forces seems to get the short end of the stick, it seems the one that the fewest people have read and when it does get a review, there tends to be a lot of complaints about how its not realistic. Those arguments are valid, of course, but they strike me as taking all the fun out of an enjoyable, highly entertaining novel.

On the other end of this, The Steel Remains was woefully mediocre with one of the most promising endings I have ever encountered. The last few pages alone kept me from jumping ship and I even anticipate The Cold Commands.
"It's a strange world. Let's keep it that way."

Offline pornokitsch

Re: favorite Richard Morgan
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2011, 12:14:39 PM »
On the other end of this, The Steel Remains was woefully mediocre with one of the most promising endings I have ever encountered. The last few pages alone kept me from jumping ship and I even anticipate The Cold Commands.

I'm definitely going to have to re-read it before the next book. I remember liking it, struggling with it, liking it again, and then having a cinematic, jump up and yell "woohoo!" style moment towards the end. Which, to some degree, matches your assessment of it as well...

Offline Winter

Re: favorite Richard Morgan
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2011, 07:59:32 PM »
The Steel Remains had a lot of hype behind it. It was supposed to be something of an aggressive response to typical epic/traditional fantasy, but that never actually came about. The hardcore homosexual couplings were a step in that direction. Sex is nothing new and neither are homosexual relationships, but that was the first time I had encountered the mix in an epic/traditional fantasy novel--previously, any such couplings were either skimmed over or hinted at. A good step, one that I liked, but one that also turned a lot of people off, which makes for amusing Amazon reviews, at least. Beyond that though, there was little that I hadn't already seen before. It was a lot of hype for the same old stuff, none of it particularly impressive.

But those last few pages... the potential. I am excited about the next and am glad he finally buckled down and finished it.
"It's a strange world. Let's keep it that way."

Offline missoularedhead

Re: favorite Richard Morgan
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2011, 08:09:02 PM »
I loved the opening of Steel Remains, and then read the rest...but you're right. There's a lot of not so much in there. I'm hoping Archeth gets more play in the Cold Commands.
"Well behaved women rarely make history" ~Laurel Thatcher Ulrich