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Heard her on the radio explaining that MP's are to blame for everything Brexit.

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General Discussion / Re: Member birthday calendar
« on: Today at 07:04:02 AM »
Happy Birthday @Nighteyes Have a great day.

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Likewise two episodes in on American Gods and looking forward to Mondays.

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General Discussion / Re: Member birthday calendar
« on: March 19, 2019, 11:38:30 AM »
Happy Birthday @Overlord Thank You for doing what you do.

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What are you currently reading?
« on: March 17, 2019, 11:19:37 PM »
finished The Gutter Prayer a great story with the most original ending

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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: March 16, 2019, 09:52:40 AM »
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I was thinking earlier, the animal that did this filmed the whole thing and no doubt there are countless pathetic, vile individuals watching and cheering him on in the dark corners of the internet. The thought of it makes me feel sick. How did we get to the stage where there are so many of these white supremacist idiots infesting our society?

No this was the actions of a man. Animals rarely kill indescrimently. As for filming one of the dark sides of social media is that it only matters if others can see. I would like to think there are very few violent White Supremicists out there, and they are outliers just as I would like to believe that there are a tiny number of muslims prepared to attack crowds of strangers.

My epiphony was that when you can get away with describing people as something else you can cease treating them as human beings.

I have been expecting an attack against a Mosque for several years. My thoughts were it would be in America or possibly France. New Zealand would never have occured as it is for the most part a tolerant and pleasant place to live.

I have no idea how someone can intend to kill or maim strangers based on race or religion. I do know that this is not acceptable to the vast majority of people.


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General Discussion / Re: Member birthday calendar
« on: March 16, 2019, 08:57:48 AM »
Happy Birthday @Gem_Cutter may the day bring you all you can wish for.

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I would say this is essential planning for anyone married to a UK National and particularly if children are involved. While cases are thankfully few there have been situations where parents have been separated from partners and children by bureaucracy while right to stay is determined. I don't think it will get to that stage with EU Nationals but until the political/geographical limbo is resolved I don't think it can hurt.

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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: March 14, 2019, 04:42:19 PM »
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@Rostum you're right, the US has an awful history, and Americans are culpable in helping fund the IRA.

I'm not saying the IRA is Ghandi, that they didn't profit from the conflict, or even saying much about whether N. Ireland would be better off as part of Ireland given generations of (largely Scottish) migration and economic reliance on the UK. I'm saying distilling the conflict to N vs. S Ireland is blatantly untrue, and especially disturbing hearing an English woman do it.

Yeah it's a gut reaction on my part when Americans comment on Ireland. Largely from suffering unwanted diatribes from Americans who know how to fix the problem that is older than their Country and rather more complex than they comprehend without whichever religious flavour of Christianity they had adding to the problem. BTW Americans funded Protestant organisations as well but that was less reported here and presumably there. Ireland became a protection racket and little else from the mid 80's but yes there is very little Eire had to do with the political situation in the North in the latter part of the 20th century and to say so was disingenuous, but I find Americans views on the subject very skewed from my own perspective.

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Quote from: Rostum on Today at 12:20:01 PM

    England not the UK?

England and Wales. Not the UK, because Scotland, and, more importantly in the context of the Irish Troubles, Northern Ireland rejected Brexit in the referendum.

And as a democratic entity the UK voted to leave the EU and as the UK (was) joined to this organisation not the independent countries that make up the UK. As far as the troubles go Scotland has played it's part for the last 500 years and continues to do so with it's sectarianism at home.

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That's quite a bit of Whataboutery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism). Can't Bradley or any other American comment on the Irish Troubles, and the UK's significant contribution to them, just because the US have quite a bloody past? Well, we all do, that's no excuse to determine what people are entitled to discuss or not.

I worked for American firms for over 25 years and through work and socially I have yet to meet an American who was either well informed about a tiny island their ancestors may have come from or were not politically and religiously polarized to lean one way or the other. Ireland is very small and far away in distance and time.

That said it's a forum the idea is free discussion. I certainly don't want anyone to feel they can't/shouldn't post on anything but an even footing. I am aware that Bradley is eminently better qualified to discuss Irish history and Anthropology than I am, however aware lots of Americans have tales of grief and woe with no factual reference at all as tales morphed through the generations and the telling. The truth is horrific enough the folk lore infinitely worse. A knee jerk reaction on my part but no one has any moral high ground in a debate on Ireland.

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I think this just proves that there is an almost incurable divide at this point, between my interpretation of what's going on as a Remainer, and yours as a Leaver. To think that Europe looks at May in any amicable way befuddles me, but perhaps that's because I follow some of the European Press, not just the British version of events on this.

Don't make me agree with you over something @Saraband but I think some of it is perception. My real issues with the EU are probably not what you think likewise my views on Scottish independence are different than you expect.



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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: March 14, 2019, 12:20:01 PM »
England not the UK? Submitting to an unchanging (despite what May would have us believe) deal dictated by Eurocrats concerned as Peat pointed out with punishing the UK over any deal that actually cuts ties. Presumably May will have a great career in Europe following her inability to do her Job here.

Politics is what you make it and I am very forgiving of those wonderful American allies who funded, supplied and trained terrorists of both religious persuasions to allow them to run protection rackets at home for 25+ years and a lot of kneecapping of Irish youth went on far more than there were shootings or bombings. A certain amount of control has to be exercised if your intent is to strike terror into the civilian population after all.
As for the IRA there were about 600 actively involved from the 70's to it's supposed dissolution. When the guns went away the kneecapping increased.

As for atrocities there are certainly some throughout the last 1000 years of Irish history but fewer than are in local lore and far fewer than were brought up when the tin was rattled in Boston Pubs. I would say the greatest repression in Ireland's history is religion and a moderate churchman is hard to find in both the South and North

Care to talk about the bones America is built on? Plenty of atrocity there after all and that's modern history for the main part.

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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: March 07, 2019, 02:28:48 PM »
Sadly not an excellent summary but an entertaining one the Americans pitching in on American food standards this week have been nearly as amusing.

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So sorry John.

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Good for you,

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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: March 05, 2019, 07:02:16 AM »
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Or you could be this poor guy in LA.  While rezoning in favor of big developers and pushing us all into a housing crisis, they've devoted millions to "fight homelessness" with all that money going to.... well not homeless people. And then they do this:

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-tiny-houses-seized-20160224-story.html

Cool project but please don't do more than sigh. If you try to address the problem you make the authorities lack of action noticable. Was there not a law in Florida to stop you feeding the homeless?

Lots of dis words come to mind, disengaged, discarded, disenfranchised, discounted and the reason why the world sees America as money obsessed is you count for nothing without it.


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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: March 04, 2019, 03:56:38 PM »
Here's an odd one. I was drawn to this because it breaks the stereotypical image foreigners have of Americans  only being motivated by money. My thought was will he will be branded a socialist (the most terrible word in American) for actually trying to make a small difference.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47403579

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