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Another really interesting post, Jonathon.  I tend to get lost in the movies and not think too much about them, so like going back with you over key points like this.  I also tend to not distinguish Marvel's movies of their universe from the other companies'.  So I think about how really good Magneto is in the movies.  Green goblin was pretty good too.  (I try not to think about the Fantastic Four movies and refuse to be bothered about the new Spider-Man ones.)

But, sticking to Marvel-on-Marvel, I'd have to agree with pretty much your whole article. I'd add in that Robert D Jr. probably made it hard to share any real limelight in his movies.  Meanwhile, the nrelative newbie lightweight blondes inThor and Captain America don't have the personality to completely dominate those films.  Other actors, actresses and characters can have their day.

As to Guardians, I stopped reading Marvel actively in the early ''80s and Guardians was something that barely registered.  (Though the cosmic sex with Thanos scene in one issue was pretty awesome.). So I don't really remember the personality to Ronan and didn't catch the differences in the movie.  That said, I sort of see many movie villains as the one-dimensional evil baddy.  Ronan in the movie was close to stock footage.  In Fantasy, I used to think of this as YADL (yet another Dark Lord).  Same goes for many movies across the action, scifi, superhero, etc. spectrum.  YAMEV: yet another mindlessly evil villain.  I'm the epitome of evil: just cuz.

One of the nice things about having young or relatively unknown actors taking key roles in the recent movies and on Agents of Shield is that I think it frees things up to add the depth you're looking for.  And for those marquee names who do take Marevl roles, let's hope they all want to let the stories take over.

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What are you currently reading?
« on: December 24, 2014, 04:13:11 PM »
I've had an odd little tradition in recent years of reading one book of ASoIaF each Christmas.  This year it's the turn of A Dance With Dragons (Part 1: Dreams and Dust).


Because deceit, death, dismemberment, and great heroism fit the Christmas spirit.   ;D

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What are you currently reading?
« on: December 24, 2014, 01:25:58 AM »
Glad to hear about the sleeping and eating.  ;D
Man cannot live by book alone. (Though we can try.)

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What are you currently reading?
« on: December 24, 2014, 12:59:15 AM »
Elfy, do you eat?  Sleep?  Work?  Is there a recently published book you haven't read?

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Introductions / Re: I've never said much but I'm sayin' it now!
« on: December 23, 2014, 04:58:45 PM »
I don't know, Reece.  5 Karma and 50+ posts?  Doesn't sound like next to nothing.  But welcome! (Sort of).  ;)

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What are you currently reading?
« on: December 23, 2014, 01:50:35 AM »
I got interested in Abaddon's Gate publishing and downloaded a compendium of four books in their Kerboros series, titled Thief of the Ancients by Mike Wild.  Straight, simple dungeon crawl fun.

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I also think it's useful to talk about science fiction vs. space opera.  Lots of really fun, exciting space opera.  Not so many true "hard" science fiction" movies.  So, yes, I'm glad for Interstellar.  I did enjoy it, and hope it will lead to more.

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I just five minutes of writing wiped out by ipad freeze.  Argh.  And what I wrote was so interesting  8)

Um.  Loved many things about Interstellar, but found plot hole after plot hole.
Loved Matt Damon as coward and psycho!
Generally really enjoyed the movie, but the plot holes were bad.  Next post for that maybe.

Not a top 10 Sci Fi movie of all time, shall we say.

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Writers' Corner / Re: Magic + Science = :(
« on: December 22, 2014, 11:55:04 AM »
And one more!  Another old one. "Lord of Light" by Roger Zelazny.  Again, not magic per se, just whiz bang technology, but what a ride!  The main officers of a colony ship (if I remember this correctly) control the technology on the planet, and it's so advanced that are like gods in comparison to the colonists.  The officers take on the personas of Hindu gods and goddesses and duke it out.  Again, maybe not what you're looking for right now, but READ it.  Zelazny's stories are awesome.

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Writers' Corner / Re: Magic + Science = :(
« on: December 22, 2014, 11:48:36 AM »
There are two series I can think of,Mand they share something in common. 

The first is old: C.J. cherryh' Morgaine books.  There is no magic per se, just fantastically advanced science that is used by people who don't know much about how it works.  Maybe not what you're thinking of, and sort of a common practice. Mkts just these books are such a great version of it.

Maybe more to the point, C. s. friedman's Black Sun Rising.  Secret in the spoiler.
Spoiler for Hiden:
The planet is a sentient being, a Gaea.  When a human ship crash lands on it, the planet tries to help the survivors by looking into their minds.  But it misunderstands and creates all the monsters of our nightmares.  None of the humans know this is happening and lose any memory of a different world. "Magic" works through sacrifice, because that's what will create enough emotional intensity to get the attention of the Gaea.  Our anti-hero begins the story by making a horrific sacrifice in order to live forever.  He ends by making another sacrifice to save humankind from its nightmares, so to speak.

So, my point really is that the nature of the magic and science is central to the concept of the book, the charcater development, the emotion, everything.  But there is no system of spells except what humans have invented as a way to focus and obtain results that could be obtained in multiple ways.

Meanwhile, I agree with Russet.  I like my magic systems (and techno-magic systems) to be there, just there, not explained, and not constant.  I found the end of Harry Potter irritating in the extreme because of the almost clockwork nature of how spells were working on wands and wands on spells.

Ah, one more, the Mageworld scifi series.  Check it out.  Very Star Wars-y.



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Started watching last night, but it got late and I was bushed.  Very good so far.  Will be high on my list.

But... 2001:  A Space Odyssey.

Just sayin'

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Great trailer.  In another thread, we are asked if Gattaca is the greatest science fiction film of all time.  With all the respect to the fan of Gattaca, this is the best science fiction movie ever made.

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Small Press & Self-Published / Re: The Lone and Level Sands
« on: December 20, 2014, 04:52:29 PM »
Just purchased.  Started reading, but chores...

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: James Barclay, Reading Order
« on: December 19, 2014, 11:38:56 PM »
For reasons I won't disclose, I recently decided I wanted to read a bit of High Fantasy (Dwarves, Elves all that jazz).

Because it's a crime?  Because it's beneath us?  Because Reading High Fantasy might be so enjoyable that you call in sick to work to finish it?  Because because because because because, because of the wonderful things it does?

Inquiring minds want to know  ;)

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Non-Fantasy Books / Re: Laughing about books
« on: December 18, 2014, 10:40:06 PM »
I actually got "Everything I Want to Do is Illegal" out of the library.
It's about the U.S. Federal rules that constrain small organic farm practices.
They are presumably for public health purposes, but many are just out of date and others are used by agribusiness to control markets.

I learned only that much, and did not read any more  8). I paid $5 in library fines when I forgot to return the book. :'(
I could probably have paid 99 cents on Amazon plus $3.95 shipping and come out ahead.
But then I'd have had to get rid of the the darn thing to make room for my next 99 cent find.

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