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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: A little help please...
« on: December 01, 2011, 03:36:17 AM »
I've heard that elsewhere, TC. I believe Deadhouse Gates (Book 2) is about an entirely different set of characters from GotM, as well.

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Finished it this morning, very assured and enjoyable debut. As I mentioned in another thread a storyline following Degan and from his point of view would be interesting. It could be doable as he and Drothe are in very different situations. It may also give the author the opportunity to explore other parts of the world he's created.

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Among Thieves by Douglas Hulick
« on: November 30, 2011, 10:35:11 PM »
I got the impression that they've known each other for a very long time, and that there's an incident buried deep in their pasts that may explain their attachment and loyalty to each other. Admittedly that's more from Bronze's part than Drothe's. I actually would like to see more of Bronze, and possibly a side storyline that follows him in a future book would be greatly appreciated by this reader. I finished the book this morning, and the more I think about it the more I like it. It's probably the debut of 2011 for me and may tip One Salt Sea out of my top 5. 

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I liked the way Douglas Hulick did things in Among Thieves. He threw a lot of unfamiliar things at readers, but Drothe proved to be an engaging and informative guide to Ildrecca and it's thriving communities of thieves, merchants and nobles.

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: A little help please...
« on: November 30, 2011, 10:28:31 PM »
The good thing about The Blade Itself is that there are 4 more Abercrombie's already out, and he's got another book (Red Country) planned for release in 2012.
I've only read Gardens of the Moon in Malazan, although I do plan to read the rest of them at some point. GotM is a decent enough read, although I was glad I read most of Glen Cook's Black Company books before I did tackle Erikson's massive series.

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There's another writer no one has mentioned in this thread yet by the name of Jonathan Stroud. He wrote the Bartimaeus series, it's essentially YA, although I think all ages could get a kick out of it, and he used both 1st person and 3rd person narrative in that and did it almost seamlessly. The djinn's parts are all 1st person and everyone else is 3rd person.

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: The Lies of Locke Lamora
« on: November 30, 2011, 10:22:00 PM »
I know I'm biased, but I still get this sense of wonder every time I read Lies, and it's as fresh now as it ever was. It's about as close to perfect as I've ever seen a book of it's type get. I'm currently reading Among Thieves by Douglas Hulick, and whilst I'm really enjoying it, I do occasionally flash on Lies. Maybe it's because I've only recently introduced a friend to Scott Lynch's work, and he used to drop by my desk every day to discuss where he was up to with the books.

It's interesting how things time out. I had been working on AT for years. When Lies came out, I was in the process of polishing and looking for an agent. When I read Lies, aside from loving the prose & story, I was happy to see it doing well because it meant that yes, Virginia, there was a market for what I was trying to sell. I still believe that people like Lynch and Weeks and the like hitting big just before I began submitting helped AT sell as quickly as it did, since their success proved there was an appetite for more.

The amusing bit for me is that Scott has the Gray King, not to mention the Locke/Jean duo, while Pat Rothfuss named his main character Kvothe. I'd had Gray Princes and Drothe & Degan in my work for a decade at that point and couldn't bring myself to change them just because Lies and NotW had similar constructs. Some people accuse AT of being derivative for those reasons alone, which makes me smile since the characters and names were around in the manuscript long before either of the other books saw print. Ditto to it being a "knock off" because the others came first, which means I'm obviously trying to ride the wave and write what's hot. It all goes to show how a simple thing like timing can cause assumptions in people's minds in terms of attribution and cause & effect. From the outside, I see how it can make prefect sense; but it's still amusing (and a bit frustrating, some days) from the writer's side.
I have to admit when I first read about AT I did baulk at some of the perceived similarities between it and Lies, but once I actually started reading it, I could see that there were significant differences, and it was not at all derivative, it just trod some of the same ground. Idressa is more Byzantine (at least that was how I read it) than Venetian like Camorr, and there was no 'thieves cant' really in Lies. I loved the 'cant' btw. Plus AT had a really interesting and cool magic system. I got the feeling that AT only really scratched the surface of it all and there's far more to be explored. I hope I'm right there. In short I really enjoyed the time I spent with Drothe and Co and am eager to spend some more time with them in the future.   

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What are you currently reading?
« on: November 30, 2011, 10:16:23 PM »
I completed Among Thieves this morning, that was a really enjoyable fast paced read, looking forward to the next Tale of the Kin. I started Cherie Priest's followup to Bloodshot; Hellbent.

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: The Lies of Locke Lamora
« on: November 30, 2011, 04:04:19 AM »
I know I'm biased, but I still get this sense of wonder every time I read Lies, and it's as fresh now as it ever was. It's about as close to perfect as I've ever seen a book of it's type get. I'm currently reading Among Thieves by Douglas Hulick, and whilst I'm really enjoying it, I do occasionally flash on Lies. Maybe it's because I've only recently introduced a friend to Scott Lynch's work, and he used to drop by my desk every day to discuss where he was up to with the books.

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At this point I'm going to go with GRRM, he really gets into the head of his individual characters and takes the reader with him. Joe Abercrombie is also quite good at this, as is Scott Lynch when he's at the top of his game.

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Not fantasy, but George MacDonald Fraser in the Flashman books. His first person narration was so effective that when the first book came out, a number of critics actually believed it was a genuine memoir of a Victorian soldier. He had the knack of making you feel like you're reading something actually written by someone who lived in the time. He even had Flashman make deliberate historical errors, which were corrected in the notes at the back of each volume, to add to the authenticity.
In fantasy I really like the way Seanan McGuire uses Toby Daye.

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There's an Arabian Nights flavoured book by Saladin Ahmed that is due out next year, I can't remember the name at present, but that's got me very interested. I'm an absolute sucker for Arabian Nights flavoured stuff. 

Throne of the Crescent Moon.
Thanks. I knew it had a crecent moon in there, but couldn't remember the other words.

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Introductions / Re: Say Hi, I'm new thread
« on: November 28, 2011, 10:25:04 PM »
I think to a certain extent I came here looking for new things to read and the forum has succeeded on that count, I never would have added Douglas Hulick's Among Thieves to my library if not for the recommendations and the selection of it as the December book of the month. 

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I'm about halfway through and I'm really enjoying it. The world already feels quite familiar to me and that's the sign of a well drawn world for me.

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I started it this morning and am about 70 pages in, it's highly enjoyable so far.

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