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It’s odd that you say that about Lynch. One of the many things I love about Lies is that it’s not for all the marbles, like so many others out there, are.

I agree, and it's one of the things I like about the books as well, but I suspect--with the conclusion of the third book--that a lot more marbles are going to be put into play. It's going to be interesting to see how book 4 develops.
I can also see that’s how it’s ended, but Lies can kind of work as a stand-alone and in that respect it is one of the best heist/caper books of all time for me.

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What are you currently reading?
« on: December 31, 2019, 11:32:52 PM »
I finished Amberlough yesterday. I wasn't really expecting to finish it so soon - I had found it quite slow going, and think it was probably a bad choice to follow Swordspoint - bug I had to wait in for someone yesterday and read a lot of it while waiting. It really pocked up for me once things started to kick off, maybe about half way through, and I ended up wanting to know how things will work out, although the subject matter is quite depressing in the current political climate.

I've started a self-pub military SF: Aurora CV-01 by Ryk Brown which is quite good fun so far. It's not the best-written thing I've ever read, but it's right up my street guilty-pleasure-wise. The omnibus of the first three books was free on kindle recently - that's why I picked it up - I don't know if it still is.
Feeling like that, you may want to give reading Farthing some time. It’s similar in tone to Amberlough.

Too me the word sounds too American and I don’t know anyone in today’s Britain that would ever use this phrase. Would it have been used by British folks in the past?

What word do you think would be a substitute for Jackass , would you go for fool?
Possibly to refer to the animal, but I’m not sure that was in use back then. You could go with donkey as an insult.

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Let’s talk about book Titles
« on: December 31, 2019, 01:02:36 AM »
J. V Jones The Book of Words always amused me. It's a book, decently sized, too. I'd kind of hope it would have words in it. I read a thing on her blog where she had a title she'd always used for it, and they wouldn't publish it with that (I think it was deemed to be too romantic), yet the best they could come up with was The Book of Words. Seriously? One of my favourites and most unwieldy ones, yet still great is The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland in a Ship of Her Own Making by Catherynne M. Valente.
The Hobbit is also great. Short and to the point and when it came out I'd think that would make people pick it up just to find out exactly what a hobbit was and why someone had written a book about it.

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What did you read in December 2019
« on: December 31, 2019, 12:55:55 AM »
December was a good month for me. I got through 7 books, one of which was non fiction.

Supernova by Marissa Meyer. She's one of the best YA writers around today. This is the 3rd of her works that I've read and they've all been different. This was a good entry into the growing superhero genre. It wrapped up the trilogy quite neatly and I thoroughly enjoyed all 3.

An Easy Death by Charlaine Harris. This was the first Charlaine Harris I've read and on this I wouldn't read another. Not a big book, but I found it a real chore to get through. The idea of an alternate America where the wild west continued until the 1930's and the Russian Csar and his family as well as his people took refuge and established a new government was clever, but her protagonist was very bland.

The True Bastards by Jonathan French. The sequel to his The Grey Bastards, which I was waiting for. It was harder to get into than the first one, but it did eventually find it's feet and drew me in. Good, bloody, dirty fun.

A Big Ship at the End of the Universe by Alex White. Odd mixture of science fiction and fantasy. Has echoes of Firefly and the Ketty Jay with a bit of Star Wars thrown in. I quite liked one of the 2 MC's and that was enough to get me to pick up the sequel.

All Those Explosions Were Someone Else's Fault by James Alan Gardner. Another entry into the superhero genre. This one is on an alternate Earth (gotta love the multiverse) and features vampires, werewolves, etc... It also explains a lot of the seeming anomalies around superheroes, like why does no one ever work out that Superman is Clark Kent without his glasses?

Ivory Apples by Lisa Goldstein. A coming of age, rather sweet and lyrical, with a really hateable villain. It's also that rare best; a genuine standalone.

Then there was the non fiction: Stronger & Bolder by Konrad Marshall. in 2017 the previously useless AFL team that I support; the Richmond Tigers, won the Premiership and Konrad Marshall was a fan and journalist who was embedded with the team to write a book about their season, it turned out to be a successful one and he wrote Yellow & Black (the team's colours and also a famous line from their theme song). In 2019 we won everything again and Stronger & Bolder was the result. This one focuses mainly on the finals series, rather than the entire series. Great read and like it's predecessor I ripped through it in no time at all.

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Recommendation for feel good books
« on: December 28, 2019, 12:47:29 AM »
Seeing what your tastes are, I heisitate a little to name these ones, because they do descend into high farce at times, but Jon Hollins Dragon Lords is feel good overall, and Nicholas Eames Band books, bloody as they are, put a smile on my face and mostly lef me feeling good at the end. You may also get this from Dave Duncan’s Pandemia books.

I’d put Fonda Lee’s Jade books in this category.

Fantasy Movies, Comic Books & Video Games / Re: The Rise of Skywalker
« on: December 28, 2019, 12:41:44 AM »
I like I’d it as an ending, it tied everything neatly together, while it was enjoyable, it did have a paint by the numbers feel about it. The original Star Wars, later renamed to A New Hope, was one of those lightning in a bottle things for me. It was brilliant and those factors just never came together again.

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What books did you read in 2019?
« on: December 28, 2019, 12:38:50 AM »
I’ve read 78, and still got a couple of days to go, so I’m not going to bore everyone with that list, but I’ll do a post on my favourites either NYE or New Years Day and out it up here for anyone to read if they’re so minded.

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What are you currently reading?
« on: December 26, 2019, 10:27:49 PM »
I've just started Dune Messiah.
I've done that a couple of times. Never finished it.

I finished Swordspoint a few days ago. It was fine, I guess. It didn't blow me away. Since then I've also read subpar Marple At Bertram's Hotel by Agatha Christie, and am now undecided on what to start next. I think I've narrowed it down to one of Amberlough by Lara Elena Donnelly, Provenance by Ann Leckie or Farthing by Jo Walton. I'll see how I feel later when it's time to make my choice.
I’ll put my 2 cents in here, Dr N. Both Amberlough and Farthing are excellent, but Farthing is extraordinary.

I’m not in favour of it. If you can’t continue the series/book without that character then don’t kill them in the first place.

I’m late, but yesterday was really full on. Hope everyone has a lovely day and gets lots of pressies.

I agree Interesting trumps likeable. There are plenty of Grimdark MC's who have few likeable traits.

This comment has inspired me to clarify: not just interesting... I need a reason to want to see the character succeed/win/survive/whatever. There are a number of MCs (not solely grimdark, but often) where I would cheer if they died in a ditch, and I don't finish those books any more, regardless of how interesting the world or the character or the plot is.

So maybe this is what the original post is about, but honestly, why would I want to spend my time with someone I intensely dislike? I don't do that in real life, I won't do it in fiction either.

Guess that raises a question - for everyone who doesn't put much of a onus on liking the MC, have far have you gone with an MC where you'd cheer if they were found dead in a ditch? Or if you didn't care whether they succeeded or not?

Because I got people being patient for beyond a few chapters, even if I'm not. But how long does patience go? Or is it just that some people don't form such strong negative reactions to characters as others?
The not caring about the character is an interesting one for me. That's largely why I gave up on Malazan in the 3rd book. I'd read 2 and a half books and I really didn't care what happened to anyone in it.
Unlikeable, but interesting MC's are a different case. I love George MacDonald Fraser's Flashman books, but Harry is a horrible person, yet weirdly enough I find myself invested in him enough to actually want him to come out on top.

I’m with @cupiscent likeable is very subjective. I know there are characters out there I’ve liked that others haven’t and vice versa. If all the characters are bland and shallow then it’s highly unlikely I’ll enjoy the book.

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: The Dresden Files
« on: December 17, 2019, 08:39:33 PM »
Peace talks release date has been announced to be July 14, 2020.

May not be the right place for this, but Peace Talks has a release date. July 14 2020.
Sorry, missed that. It's apparently also 20 years since Storm Front came out, so kind of a  dual celebration of all things Harry Dresden.

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