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Anyone know if Fletchers Manifest Delusions has only paperback editions or is hardcover just rare?

On Amazon there only seems to be Paperback. The only hardcover I've found was in Russian.

I’ve gotten bored of mines , I don’t think any have been that exciting. In most fantasy books we have to have a mine scene now?

Also bored of the Hero teaching schools Magic or weapons.

Anyone else had enough of brothels in their fantasy too. The tart with the heart of gold.

What are you bored of seeing in fantasy books?

Only mines I remember are Moria and another one over lots of books... I think maybe instead of mines you meant ancient ruins? Yeah, those appear everywhere.

I never saw the Hero teaching magic or weapons, mostly were actually learning  ;D ... but even then, what exactly bothers you in their training? What good training did you read about?

Brothels... it's funny because they were a great part of life in those days, but they seem so cringe and awkward when written. I can't exactly pinpoint why though.

What I'm mostly tired of is people learning magic and then turning into Dragon Ball Z mode when fighting. Maybe I'm just being unlucky but a lot of battles involving magic that I recently remember seemed to me more like a video game script or a Bleach episode.

Writers' Corner / Re: How much did you write today?
« on: September 11, 2019, 03:18:33 PM »
After a long time without writing, last week I put pen to paper and got around 1100 words in. One week later, only 200 (or a single page). Then yesterday I sit down pretty much the whole day and got ~2100 in to compensate.
That was like 9 pages in 9 hours, about 1 hour per page. Oof. Let's see if I can do it again... but faster, preferably  ::)

Alright, folks. Requesting a little moral support here to get my butt in gear and do some quality writing.
Threats and suggestions are all welcome.

Biggest problem right now? It’s sooooooop beautiful out here on the back deck under another day of gorgeous blue skies. And there’s a bottle of hard ginger-apple cider in the fridge...

All this will go away if you don't write at least 5 pages per day for the next few days  ::)

I got really nice surprises from books that started poorly - and also nasty disappointments from books that started well.

There isn't really a specific thereshold that keeps me going, though. I think it's a combination of how well-written it is, the potential I may see in the characters and/or plot turning into something, how interesting/unique the premise is, perhaps even who the author is. Someone I already had a good experience with or is known for making some bombastic twists that make it all worthwhile, for example.     

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What did you read in August 2019
« on: September 06, 2019, 10:51:07 PM »
Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen.
Hm, don't think I need to say much about it. Came actually expecting cheesy and cheap stuff, but had actually none of that. Guess the title is spot on for a lot of things, eh?

Soccernomics by Simon Kuper.
Some interesting stuff, but some of it was also complete nonsense that shows while you should quantify some things in sports, others really can't be.

Red: My autobiography by Gary Neville.
His time in Manchester United. Covers more than 20 years in the club. Pretty good, made me like United more. Doesn't pull punches.

This is the One: Sir Alex Ferguson: The Uncut Story of a Football Genius by Daniel Taylor.
The manager of United. For all the pomp in the title, it just covers like 3 seasons out of his 27. Pretty good material, but misleading in expectations.

How curious:

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What are you currently reading?
« on: September 05, 2019, 09:22:38 PM »
I'm feeling like Jmack, can't focus on a single thing and trying to read pieces of various at the same time.

Lynortis Reprise by Karl Wagner. It's one of his Kane stories, about an evil sorcerer who doesn't age and recovers from every injury who hates his life but refuses to end it and accept that the curse of immortality has destroyed him. Obviously, none of the stories are happy ones. But this one takes it even further when he arrives at the ruins of a city that had been besieged and bombarded by alchemical weapons for years before it was stormed and almost everyone inside slaughtered. Everything sounds like the nightmarish hybrid of Stalingrad and the Somme, but with trebuchets and sorcerers.
I think it's perhaps the best one in the series, but the bleak twist in it only really hits when you've gotten familiar with the series in general. Probably noy nearly as effective if you read it by itself.

2 or 3 years but I remember this story very well. The revelation was pretty shocking for me.

Yeah, I agree that you need to have some familiarity with the setting/character first, reading it in the Night Winds volume fit perfectly after reading the previous stories and getting the character/tone.

Jaime Lannister and Sansa Stark, for sure.

Severus Snape, though that was the intention.

Bayaz and Jezal from First Law.

[AUG 2019] BtR: Weather / Re: [Aug 2019] - BtR: Weather - Discussion Thread
« on: September 01, 2019, 04:22:31 AM »
I did write a little this month, but I'm way too rusty at this...

Gonna agree with Flowers for Algernon.

I'd say The Last Witness by K.J. Parker felt pretty bleak by the end. The Folding Knife doesn't feel as bleak in personal terms, but everything went to shit for the character too and nothing he worked for mattered.

And of course, The Farseer Trilogy by Robin Hobb, has some very bleak and miserable moments too. I heard it keeps getting worse (I mean the misery) as the series progresses.

Game of Thrones feels very bleak most of the time.

I didn't find Beyond Redemption and Prince of Thorns bleak. They didn't have the cold and miserable feel of the others.

I'm shocked, someone other than @Eclipse ressurrected this.

Unless it's his alt.

@Halfdan asked the question/dropped the bomb, and left everyone to discuss what grimdark really is, without returning ;D

Don’t worry he posts once a year I like his style I too like asking  a question without replying.

Nah, you like reviving century old polemic topics to let the bombs fall while eating popcorn from the stands  ::)

I've read The Grey Bastards and I'm shocked it's labeled as Grimdark. Specially when The Way of Shadows by Weeks is below it on that list and that's far, far more gruesome.

The Red Knight by Miles Cameron is just slighly below it as well, and has none of that as well.

Despite the very low rating, can't believe Mistborn entered the list at all.

I guess this shows how much dissonance there is around the theme, I didn't think it would be this great.
I found The Grey Bastards for more gritty and 'real' (it is after all inspired by Sons of Anarchy) than The Way of Shadows which had plenty of blood and gore, but was almost cartoonish violence at times. I found Lord Foul's Bane a surprising entry, considering it's part of what was considered the new wave of epic fantasy, post Tolkien.

I'm now wondering if I'm really recalling the right book...  ::)
I'm sure it had gore and blood, but I don't remember anything surreal, over the top nor a nihilist or extremely cynical approach.
I think it had something with elves, plenty of swearing and sexual innuendo, but I really don't remember it being too gritty. I even remember plenty of camarederie and loyalty between the main crew, a la Locke Lamora or Kings of the Wyld.

In the Way of Shadows if I recall correctly, it opens with a boy and his mute/blind sister living on the streets, the gang leader beats kids who don't steal enough, to make the example of one, he dresses the boy as a girl and rapes him, and I think it even happens again later.
Those were the first 10 pages If I recall correctly. Maybe later it doesn't get this brutal, some teen angst starts, and the training, but the opening was very gritty.

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