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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Terry Pratchett is dead
« on: March 12, 2015, 06:55:48 PM »
Few have ever rivalled him, and few ever will. There are few people that I would consider heroes, and he was one of them. You have my love, Terry.
 REST IN PEACE

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Name the Fantasy-Faction Dragon!
« on: August 08, 2014, 01:33:37 PM »
Bob.
You know I'm right.
'Hey, where's that dragon from?'
'Oh, Bob? He's just on there, doing his own thing.'

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Why is it that all the awesome stuff happens when I'm not around? Even accounting for confirmation bias, it seems like I miss more cool stuff than I get to go two. Even if I could go, it'd be in a pub, which is most likely the best sort of venue for this sort of thing. Ah well, at least you guy's will be having fun. Hope its as great as it sounds.

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Yes, most people do research into the Amazon reviews or what have you before getting into bed with a fantasy novel but sometimes too you just want to jump in blind and pull a book off the library shelf based on the binding, right? Whether or not you went into it with your eyes wide open or not - whats the very worst 5 you can come up (that you read from beginning to cover) - including poor plotting, poor pacing, disappointment following a previous installment. I'm talking filled you with blinding rage - the WORST of all.


I spent all week thinking about my top 5 and I think the award goes to
1) 50 shades of grey in first place winning by a mile - ridiculous and offensive

2) somebody help me with the name, but it involved a dog made out of lightning - ridiculous in a not funny way.

3) the vampire diaries novels - either pointless, or I'm too old for it

4) Not a Fantasy strictly but Vanity fair - a novel sometimes needs a hero, yeah?

5) Don't hate me here, but ASOIAF 5 - Too much expectations on my part, too much cuisine and naked turtle swimming on GRRM's part

And just randomly, I've been looking forward to finding somebody to tell me that Malazan is a must read, and most places I come up with a "meh" review. Any Malazan fans out there strong enough in their faith to recommend me buy these audiobooks? Don't throw me out of the site, but I confess, I haven't read further than the first page of Wheel of Time, Malazan or Farseer. After Dune - I just don't think I have one of those sagas left in me,

As a person who read The Heroes and loves it above all else, I'm finding it kinda easy to put books in the crap pile now. I have half of Red country to go, but I have this sense of forboding that if I finish it, I'd have technically sold my soul to the man. But five minutes into Mortal instruments and it's already on the crap pile. My compass is def broken. How do you guys manage to drek through it all? Should I lower my standards?  For the sake of enjoying reading again, if only?

And just in case you guys don't use it. Amble for android is awesome. The best. Better than audible.

But bottom line - the five worst novels - fantasy or otherwise, that you've read from cover to cover.
I don't think anyone has said it yet, so I will. Read Malazan. The first book is tough going, but that's only because you're thrown into the deep end, and it is really setting up this entire, massive, beautiful world. Also, who have you been listening to? Most reviews I see of it laud praise for Malaz.

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General Discussion / Re: A Thank You to the Forum
« on: March 17, 2014, 05:49:59 PM »
Well life extension is getting better and better these days, and age reversing drugs have been made, though they're not the end all and be all. If you can last a decade or two my dear fellow, you'll be golden. And a question, how has fantasy evolved over the years in your eyes, and when was the "golden era" if you will.

Thank you so much for that great comment, Algon, exactly the kind of brilliant suggestion I should have expected from here - with renewed hope I will look  forward to  the necessary potions   ;D   
The question is a great one and I will answer with my thoughts,  but you may have woken a sleeping dragon - how many chapters would you like?  Seriously, six decades of reading needs time and consideration before reply.

BTW Lady Ty.................
Oops... And yes, I would quite like to hear your thoughts. Heck, you could even do an article if you really wanted to, considering how open Overlord is to those sorts of thins.

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General Discussion / Re: A Thank You to the Forum
« on: March 16, 2014, 04:34:26 PM »
As a newcomer I am delighted to join in the thanks for a friendly, inclusive and incredibly interesting forum. I don't contribute as often as I should, because although I have read all kinds of SFF in the past, I tend to concentrate on the amazing new urban fantasy that just keeps coming, but I do read and enjoy many of the other threads and read the main articles daily. Thank you, Overlord, all moderators, admin and contributors for creating such a pleasure.  Thank you Chill for starting this with such a great tribute.


I suspect I am most ancient of members and as reader only, never a writer, the range and depth of imagination coming out in the fantasy world nowadays leaves me in complete awe and wonderment.  I wish I was teenage again with long, long years ahead to enjoy it all.   In this respect, something I find especially wonderful and unique to this Forum is the enthusiasm, care, help and encouragement given, in every way possible, to young writers starting out.  Fantasy Faction Writers section and the moderators who run it and all who contribute.  Nurture the talent, the world needs fantasy like never before and will continue to do so -  my greatest respects to you all.
Well life extension is getting better and better these days, and age reversing drugs have been made, though they're not the end all and be all. If you can last a decade or two my dear fellow, you'll be golden. And a question, how has fantasy evolved over the years in your eyes, and when was the "golden era" if you will.

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Best Book You Have Not Read
« on: March 16, 2014, 04:28:57 PM »
Reviving a 2 year old thread, anyone?

On topic: I could make a list. No Sanderson or Hobb. Barely touched Abercrombie, GRRM, and Rothfuss.
That's surprising Chill. I think you'd really enjoy Abercrombie. I haven't read any Sanderson aside from Elantris, but I picked up the Mistborn trilogy on a 3 for 2 deal recently so should be onto that soon.
Mistborn is okay. If you really want a good Sanderson book, read alloy of law. Same world as Mistborn, but 343 years after the third book. Alloy of law is probably Sanderson's best work.

Wow! How opinions differ! I thought Alloy of Law was his weakest.  Way of Kings is his best for me by a country mile.

Totally different books, but I feel that Gariath has the right of it - Way of Kings is incredibly good and Alloy of Law is a throwaway pop novel (a very good one).

Ally of Law conclusion:

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Not Sanderson’s most epic and memorable novel and not a book that I’m going to remember as a classic – but it wasn’t meant to be. What Sanderson has done is prove his ability to work within crossover genres and that promises exciting things for the future.

Way of Kings conclusion:

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This is a series that I truly believe will be one of the great fantasy series we remember in 50 years time, without all the stigma attached to it for taking too long or going downhill.
Way of Kings was not a great book. Enjoyable, maybe good, but never great. Words of Radiance was a huge step up, and Stormlight Archive is (or will be) overall better than Alloy of Law. But I felt that all of the aspects of Alloy of Law blended just right. Of course it had its flaws, but for all that I'd still recommend it as an intro to Sanderson over Way of Kings.

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Best Book You Have Not Read
« on: March 15, 2014, 01:56:08 PM »
Reviving a 2 year old thread, anyone?

On topic: I could make a list. No Sanderson or Hobb. Barely touched Abercrombie, GRRM, and Rothfuss.
That's surprising Chill. I think you'd really enjoy Abercrombie. I haven't read any Sanderson aside from Elantris, but I picked up the Mistborn trilogy on a 3 for 2 deal recently so should be onto that soon.
Mistborn is okay. If you really want a good Sanderson book, read alloy of law. Same world as Mistborn, but 343 years after the third book. Alloy of law is probably Sanderson's best work.

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[JAN 2014] Gardens of the Moon / Re: Week 4: Finished!
« on: January 26, 2014, 07:33:15 PM »
It's interesting that the Rope was confused by Paran's kinship with the hounds too. I wonder if he's some kind of werehound (inside of warrens) now...

I thought it was because Paran saved the two hounds souls from Rakes Sword did the hound's souls escape the sword and  fled into Paran soul? went a bit strange in Kruppe dream

"deep within him he heard a sound,repeating again and again, growling louder. A howl" page 456 of 494
He drank of the Hound's blood.

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Writers' Corner / Re: What's popcorn fantasy?
« on: January 12, 2014, 10:46:04 AM »
Think the shannara books. Dragonlance. Some of Sanderson's books. Enjoyable. but not much more. Good, but the lower levels of good. Though not always.

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Second Wyrd Sisters, Soul Music,
Thirding these two!

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This is a great read and a really interesting discussion point. Tolkien's influence in modern fantasy is an easy connection to make but as you state, he was adapting the conflicts of the world during his lifetime and placing them in a fantastical setting. His works and creations have certainly become recognisable as tropes within fantasy but there was plenty of fantasy writing before him which deserves credit for the evolution of modern fantasy.

I am a huge fan of both fantasy and history, so seeing an article on the history whilst focusing on the influences of a particular set of authors within fantasy was incredibly engaging. I would like to contribute more to this discussion but I am at work so I am going to have a think and possibly post again later. :)
Well according to Tolkien he wasn't. He himself stated that he despised allegory. And if he was going to base LOTR on the World Wars, he said he would have made it so that the alliance and Sauroman had to team up against Sauron. So that's what the man says.

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Alright, does anyone know where those other articles that were supposed to come out are? Or when they're supposed to come out? I get why they might not have been released, and I know we'll get them soon, but a re-estimate would be nice.

We are currently waiting to hear back from one publisher. As soon as we get their info, the publishers' choice article is going up! The readers' choice is currently being drafted and should go up either tonight or tomorrow morning, depending on when Marc is done with it. :)
Curse you One PUBLISHER!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the info, though.

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Alright, does anyone know where those other articles that were supposed to come out are? Or when they're supposed to come out? I get why they might not have been released, and I know we'll get them soon, but a re-estimate would be nice.

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Introductions / Re: Hello all
« on: December 30, 2013, 10:21:52 AM »
I'm predisposed to like anyone with the screen name of Thief of Camorr. Welcome!
Hmm, I wonder why that could possibly be?

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