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We all know about some tropes that are common to fantasy genres. The chosen one and The Prophecy. Evil overlord of evil evilness and his Empire. McGuffin of Doom. World in Stagnation. Ect. Ect. Some are old. Some are new. We can not really get rid of them, because readers have certain expectations - people want and need Evil Overlords and Dragoning Dragons doing Dragon Stuff and without fantasy tropes, how can a story even call itself a fantasy?

I never liked a trio of "The prophecy", "The Chosen One" and "The Farmboy". I do not hate it but I often roll my eyes when I see all three of them at the back of the book cover. Usually books like this have a boy who dethrones a powerfull villain, and there is a prophecy about it. I Read it in a lot of books. Watched a lot of movies about it. Saw a bunch of anime.

I do not like it because usually we know something from the very beginning - the evil guy will fall and the boy will win. Also - they boy had little to no training, yet still was able to fight against powerfull, evil creatures - because you know - The Goofy Ride of Inexplicable is fueled by the finest Petroleum of Prophecy.
(Buy one today!)

I also grow constantly tired of "Hero Origin Story" or "From Zero to Hero". It is a result of modern day hero-movies. I saw so many spider bites, experiments and gamma blasts that it was refreshing to watch some "Blade" or "Van Helsing" movies, where Heroes are already grown up and kicking ass.

What I just love is "Power Gaming". Some of you propably know this term from RPG sessions that went overboard. You have seriously overpowered characters and fight against crazy powerfull enemies. So later books of Malazan were the definition of this for me, where we constantly had a god vs god vs god situation. When the story puts two characters against each other that I know are crazy strong I am in readers heaven.

So what are your favourite tropes? What are the tropes you hate the most? And are there tropes, that in your opinion are unfairly hated?

Writers' Corner / Sublime words in writing
« on: November 22, 2018, 10:10:12 PM »
Hello there! I am here, to ask you some questions about extraordinary words. Speak from your heart. Even the first thing that comes knocking to your mind.

1. What do you think about the use of sublime wording in writing. And by sublime I mean something like "desolation", "exalted", "courteous", "transcendent" and so on.
2. Do you often find them in stories you read? Do you sometimes have problems with understanding them so you have to use dictionary to find out their meaning?
3. What do you think when those extraordinary words are used by:
a) Author - as names of characters, items, techniques
b) Characters - as something that makes them stand out from the others
c) Narrator - to describe something

Done? Now you can see why I asked you all about this.

Spoiler for Hiden:
On a daily basis I am using words that most people think that are sophisticated. It is a part of me by now, and I use them without really knowing, that many people do not know their meaning. And because of that some people think that I am all snooty, but most of them actually like that and say, that it is very characteristic part of my persona.

So here is the thing:

I also use them while writing. So I would like to know if I should start hunting them in my texts and change them into something normal. Or maybe I should make it a defining point of my writing? I would like to hear your opinions because... you know. You are all readers. Most of you are also writers. What do you think about it?

Hello there!

Long time no see! So I came here to discuss some stuff with You all.

A few hours ago I started to read "Prince of Nothing". I heard this is a good piece of grim-dark and I like my books how I like my coffee. Wait... I actually drink coffee with milk instead of water so it is a bad comparision.

I just like dark books, because I am edgy like that.

That is better.

Anyways. I heard it is a good trilogy, and synopsis of a plot looked great. War. Gods. Apocalypse. Good stuff.
So I started reading. I went through less than 100 pages and now I sit here confused. I just don't know what is going on. So many strange names. People talking about different events. Another bunch of strange names.
There is just too much informations on waaaay too few pages. I feel like I am reading in a different language than mine.

I never had this problem while reading Way of the Kings or Mistborn. Althought the plot of these books is also far from being simple, yet informations felt, like they were poured carefully in my mind. Bit - by - bit.

While reading "Darkness that comes before" I just feel that I am too stupid to read this book.
Or maybe there really IS too much info.

Anyone read something similiar, that made you question the level of your IQ?

General Discussion / It's been a long time. What's the news?
« on: July 02, 2017, 11:33:11 PM »
<sits near the campfire>
It's been a long time. A very long time. A year or so?
So many things happened in my life... But It's a long story.
How was this time for you? I think I missed many stories told by all of you.
Maybe you would like to share about your achievements with me? It's going to be hard for me to go and try to read about everything that happened here.

Writers' Corner / Say less, tell more, engage me stronger.
« on: January 04, 2016, 02:08:36 AM »
You know how it is now? Everything is easily accessible, you don't have to hunt for your food, or walk many kilometers in order to find some fresh water. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Not having to search too long for the information about that metal band feels great. You can stop being a creep, and instead of stalking the girl you like, just check her FB profile. It is all a blessing... and a curse...
You know how it is in a real life? Don't you? There's so much advertisments, so much things proposed, so much information flooding your mind, that you actually stop to care about any of it... Well... maybe you actually care, at least about some of them. But I don't.

This is also a thing I feel while reading a book or playing a video game.
Many of you propably played TESV Skyrim. Many of you loved it. I don't.  Every NPC will start to talk who they are and what they ate yesterday when you walk nearby. Many of them have like 50 dialogue options. It felt OK for first 5 hours. Then it started to be disturbing, and I was so fed up with all the info dump, that I stopped to care about the story and after few more hours of running after Wisp Mothers I unsinstalled the game and never looked at it again.

It's also a thing for many of the books. Not only the old ones, like Lord of The Rings and it's never-ending descriptions (I threw away LoTR like 5 or more times before being able to finish them), but also some of the titles that are still 'fresh'. Many mysteries from them are either too shallow, or there are enough hints for you to be sure how a book is going to end waaaay before you flip the last page. Many times I end up being more engaged with a sub-plot, than with the main one (i.e in The Age of Five I was more interested in doings of a certain pair of sky-people than about gods themsleves).

And some time before I was able to play Dark Souls. And this is where I sinked. This game only tells you a little of the backstory and leaves you to your own doings. You don't have to speak to anyone. There will be no locked gates opened by tons of dialogue stopping you. Only battles, bosses and epic music. It's a bad thing for many people, because game lefts you on your own and never shows you the way. You can speak to NPCs, and maybe you will get a little bit of information. Everything else you have to deduct yourself - from short notes of item descriptions or even from the very stats or even by the look of the equipment. You are left (almost) alone in a decaying world and plot never chases you. You have to chase the plot. And so I did. I never played a game for so long, and was so emotionally tied to it. I never cried in a game before. Here I did it twice. Not because the game was hard, but because the mix of good plot, great  music and epic characters just broke me down. So many things remains untold, and you are left wondering about it, wanting to know more, but... you never get to.
Some people are saying that it's just because there is no mystery, just a giant plot hole. That might be true.
But sometimes no story(or just very little) is the best story. And those are words of someone, who thinks that Malazan Book of The Fallen was the best series he was able to read...

Let's go back to Lord of Rings - we don't get to know the backstory of Balrog, we don't even know it's name - we only get to know what he is called now. Yet everyony asked about Balrog will answer - "Yes, He is badass". Well that might be because in a movie he was depicted as such, we are never told much in books actually.

What do you think. Can this type of narration be efficiently used for books? When you not only erase everything that is not needed for the plot, but even leave many things undone, almost unfinished?
I guess it can left people feeling cheated, and many of them will just assume that your writing is messy and you can't even wrap up your own story well, especially for a bigger series...
I ask this question because I managed to end my NaNoWriMo project (that's about time) where I tried to use this kind of narration to make the world feel more mysterious and mythical. It worked - to a certain degree. In many places it just made the story confusing and me wanting to eat a manuscript.
I planned to use it for something bigger and wider. Now when I whink about it, it would only work for something that is short, and not particulary long. Leaving bits of information scattered around in many books, never to be put together by a narrator in a clear explanation does not feel like a right thing to do in a world, where people get angry because video is taking 5 seconds to load.

Writers' Corner / Violence in fantasy
« on: July 17, 2015, 12:39:09 PM »
So recently I finished to outline a story that happens in my world, and the first thing that came into my mind was - "Man. This world is brutal. It's entire story is brutal. Dude. WTF?".
My goal was to create a story when everyone is hurt in some way (physically and mentally) and where painfull but quick death is actually a blessing. And to forestall - I don't use violence just for the sake of using it, but still it's a key component of my world, and i made sure it's justified (most of the times).

What do you think about it? What is the thick red line that separates "grim/dark fantasy" from "butcher's fairytale" (this is how one of my friend reffers to it)? How not to turn a story into a parody? How far can one walk into a Mordor of description?
Do you often use violence in your writing. Or maybe in other way: Do you LIKE to use violence in your writing.
I also want to say is that I never read any of GoT books, and never even watched a second of it's TV series. But as far as I know - it's a hurtfest/killfest/rapefest/tearsofreadersfest/cutthedongfest.

Maybe it's a time to read it? Or do you know other authors that like to "play" with their characters in this way? Or maybe even better?

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