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Writers' Corner / Re: Episodic Explorations of the Supernatural
« on: January 22, 2020, 06:45:40 PM »
I really like this. The idea of having a protagonist motivated by a quest for knowledge and understanding isn't used nearly as much as it should be.

General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: January 18, 2020, 08:44:45 AM »
As far as I can see, in the long run the Referendum result didn't make anyone happy. None of the Leavers I know are happy with the state the country's in now, obviously the Remainers aren't happy either and I myself am so furious at everything that I'm hoping to pack my bags and leave at the first opportunity. So I say let them have their party. They need it in these depressing times, and it will probably be the last fun they have for a while.

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Religion in Fantasy
« on: January 16, 2020, 11:00:27 PM »
Red/Grey/Holy sister books are weird. Despite set in a monastery and all characters are sister/nuns, it has almost zero religion.

That was one of my bigger issues with Red Sister. No one seems all that interested in the religion, yet they are supposed to have dedicated their lives to it. Characters do things that would probably get them kicked out of a real convent and no one cares.

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Religion in Fantasy
« on: January 16, 2020, 05:30:14 PM »
The Mistborn trilogy is an interesting one. The series has very clear religious themes that are obviously informed by the author's own background, but it's rare to find someone complaining about it being in your face or preachy.

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Religion in Fantasy
« on: January 16, 2020, 08:03:21 AM »
The above (and more) explains, at least to my own satisfaction, why so many fantasy works do such a poor job of representing religious practices of non-humans.

I second this. How many examples can you think of of non humans in a fantasy story all having the same religion for some reason?

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Religion in Fantasy
« on: January 15, 2020, 10:10:55 PM »
I am religious, and religious themes end up in pretty much everything I write. I hope that if someone who doesn't share my beliefs ever reads my work, they're able to find it interesting and thought provoking rather than preachy, but I don't know whether I have the skill to pull it off.

When I was younger I took a much more flexible and unorthodox approach to religion than I do now, and the made up religion in one of my books was largely based on what I believed at the time. My beliefs have changed since then but when I go back to revise those books I'll leave that religion the same, I'll just try to portray it in a more ambiguous light.

I don't mind reading works critical of religion, so long as they don't go out of their way to shock or offend without really having anything of meaning to say. That's not to say I will agree with those criticisms, but I'll still be interested in their perspective. The obvious example of this is 'His Dark Materials' a series which I've said in another thread looks to be surpassed by its own adaptation. (The series, not the film.) I think Pullman;'s thoughts on religion are nonsense, but the world he has created to get his points across is still compelling, at least until the third book, which I found a chore.

From a sociological perspective, I don't really think a society without religion, or at least a society without a firm set of values can exist, at least not for any long period of time. I could buy a speculative world without any traditionally 'religious' beliefs, but there has to be something, a political ideology, a philosophy or a set of principles that keeps their society together. A work without this feels a little off to me.

General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: January 14, 2020, 12:07:23 PM »
All that and he's from a Liberal party? Name and ideology don't even match!

I'm not an Aussie but the Australian conservative party is called the Liberals for some reason.

For some reason you can no longer watch the first series of Tokyo Ghoul on Netflix. Which is pretty annoying for me, because I still haven't finished it. You can still watch series two though for some reason.

Fantasy Movies, Comic Books & Video Games / Re: The Witcher ( tv series)
« on: January 11, 2020, 08:53:47 PM »
A lot of people are comparing it to Game of Thrones, but to feel it feels like it's harkening back to an older sort of fantasy. Hardly any modern works of fantasy take the idea of a chosen one or a prophecy seriously, but this... if you take a shot every time someone says 'destiny' the alcohol poisoning will kill you before you're halfway through.

Finished it tonight. I like it, overall. Not the most engaging thing I've seen but I reckon it will improve with later series.

Fantasy Movies, Comic Books & Video Games / Re: The Witcher ( tv series)
« on: January 10, 2020, 11:31:51 PM »
So that twist at the end of episode four... Made me think about some things I really don't want to think about.


The TV show, imo, was ... okay. Better than the film, but not a patch on the book, particularly the first one (Northern Lights / The Golden Compass), which is probably up there in my top 5.

I actually preferred the show to the first book. And the first book was my favourite in the series.

Lately I've been watching the Witcher. It's alright. It feels like its still getting its bearings, but Cavill is great as Geralt. Episodes four and five were a bit, odd, though, even if they did certainly have their moments.

General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: January 08, 2020, 08:18:27 PM »
I heard they told the Iraqis which bases they were aiming for and the Iraqis told the Americans so they had time to make sure no one got hit. They weren't aiming to kill anyone, just to show Trump that they can hit the bases if they want to.

That should be the end of it. I do think Trump genuinely does want to avoid war if he can, it's just that he struggles to, because he has no clear strategy, or indeed, any idea what he is doing.

Fantasy Movies, Comic Books & Video Games / Re: The Witcher ( tv series)
« on: January 07, 2020, 11:44:05 AM »
I've watched the first two episodes. It's okay. I like Geralt's episodic monster hunts so far and I think Yennifer is an interesting character, although her story isn't that engaging so far. The Ciri stuff is a bit of a drag though.

Writers' Corner / Re: Unrepentant Characters
« on: January 06, 2020, 01:06:58 PM »
The advice I usually hear first for this kind of thing is to put them up against someone even worse. '1984' is a good example of this. Winston isn't the nicest man in the world, but when he's up against the pure horror of Oceania we are forced to root for him.
If that isn't really what you're going for, then maybe it works to make them interesting and compelling. The movie 'Nightcrawler' is about a terrible person who only gets worse, but his struggle and eventual overcoming of obstacles still make him on some level sympathetic.

I also once came up with the idea of a protagonist who is so horrible that the reader is actively supposed to want them to fail, and in the end they do. No idea how to pull it off, though.

I think a reader can still identify with and relate to an immoral person on some level. They are still people, after all.

Writers' Corner / Re: Characters with a mind of their own
« on: January 06, 2020, 11:38:20 AM »
I'm pretty sure a lot of them won't have distinctive personalities until later drafts, long after I have decided what they believe and what they're going to do.

It takes time. One thing that helped me was writing short stories focussing on some of the main characters.

I have tried this once or twice. It does tend to be pretty useful.

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