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We had many requests for themes in advance, so let's give it a try for a few months, ok?
We can always go back to the monthly surprise.

If people feel so strongly about it, let's announce 3 months instead of 4?

As for the word limit, 2000 is a lot - if you ask the regulars, they'll tell you that's a really good practice, to say more with less :)

General Discussion / Re: Member birthday calendar
« on: Today at 09:38:30 AM »
Happy birthday @Eclipse, we miss you!!

General Discussion / Re: The Virus thread
« on: Today at 09:24:22 AM »
It's like the story of the Dark Lord that no matter how much evil he does, his army will always protect him... ::)

My take on voting for the themes vs. someone choosing them, apart from the items already mentioned, is that it could also put people on different starting blocks.
Someone who's quite used to writing could start a story, or think of an idea, for each of the proposals while the voting was going on, and then they'd be far ahead of a newbie who was waiting for the theme to start thinking, since they don't have as much experience.

I also really like the idea of the winner (or someone else) deciding on the next themes - gawd knows sometimes Xia and I do rack our brains for something interesting or different ;D

Is it sort of like -

Plot A: Set out to beat the Dark Lord. Escape Minions of Dark Lord. Beat Dark Lord's Lieutenant. Be Captured by Dark Lord. Escape and Beat the Dark Lord.

Plan B: Set out to become a Dragon Rider. Find Becoming a Dragon Rider makes you marked for death. Uncover spy against your Dragon Rider-ness but cause war. Fight war as a Dragon Rider. Win daring victory against odds as Dragon Rider.

Plot A is pretty familiar feeling and I think is what you're talking about the single one. The protagonist has the same overriding aim from beginning to end.

Plan B I think is what you're talking about as the new thing. The protagonist's aim shifts with every story section; each section feels like a new plot/arc in a way because the aim has shifted.

Am I close here?
Argh, why can't we be sitting together at a table chatting about this? It would be so much easier to explain with gestures and half sentences, and immediate questions/answers ;D

It's more, all within one book:
Plot 1.1: Dark Lord rules the world, young hero dreams of defeating him. She trains hard, grows up, moves to the city and after a few more things there's a big battle and defeats the Dark Lord. But as he lay dying, he mentioned this special stone that would allow his work to continue. Plot 1.2: Now the hero must learn about that and find out where the stone is. Eventually that happens and she learns the story that the Dark Lord was actually the second in command to a more evil entity, that lives far away and reappears every 500 years. Plot 1.3: Hero must defeat this new entity with new weapons.
--> so there are actually 3 conclusions, almost each a "normal book" in its own right, but in this case not.

You know this happens when you're preparing for a big climax and can't put the story down but you're still halfway (or somewhere far from the end) of the book - more will come.

So your 'plot B' is closer to my idea, yes, but it lacked that sense of urgency that the middle climaxes/conclusions also have.


Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Multiple plots in a book
« on: May 24, 2020, 09:53:15 PM »
It's when once you are comfy in a book/series and you know what to generally expect, there are suddenly new layers, the world expands and you notice that what you've seen up to then and had assumed was all, was only a small piece of what's really happening.
Oh I really like this too!

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Multiple plots in a book
« on: May 24, 2020, 07:23:33 PM »
I'm thinking specifically within one book, yes.
One example is what I'm reading now, hehe, The Priory of the Orange tree (you'll see exactly what I mean as you read), but I've seen this in the past.
The starless sea was another - I'll check my list to refresh my memory and come back to you with more.

Edit: maybe what I call 'multiple plots', others call simply sub-plots. Maybe I'm seeing things in a weird way...

Monthly Writing Contest / Re: Let's Refresh the Writing Contest!
« on: May 24, 2020, 05:20:30 PM »
Note that we plan to publish the themes for the next 4 months during the next week, we're still working on them :)

Monthly Writing Contest / Let's Refresh the Writing Contest!
« on: May 24, 2020, 05:19:30 PM »
Thanks to everyone who contributed with your comments and ideas in the other thread, sorry it took us so long to work on it...

Here is our proposal to refresh the Writing Contest - we'll give it a try for a few months and revise afterwards if it's working.

I have split it into things we (Xiagan and I) can and can't control.

Things we can control:
1. The word limit is 500-2000
  • Please note that this gives you lots of options: some said they prefer short flash-fiction, others longer pieces.
  • We may also experiment with different limits for different themes.

2. Themes will be announced for the following 4 months
  • This means that everyone has the same time to prepare
  • We hope that there will still be enough stories in all 4 months, not just the last one
  • We aim to have a selection of different prompts each time: theme, image, type, writing, quote, etc

3. Voting will be open for just 2 weeks, to encourage quicker feedback/critique (weeks 2-3 of the month)

4. We're going to promote/encourage more feedback/critique
  • Open the thread right away after voting ends
  • Writers should feel free to request
  • Encourage everyone to give their feedback, even if it’s not ‘formal’, just a few sentences, and the person isn’t a writer
  • We're going to ask members with published books to do a “guest critique” of a story (asked by the writer then randomly selected if more than one request)

5. Let's also advertise the contest on the facebook group, via common members of both sites
Things we can’t control:
We’ve been working on these items for many months, but it’s out of out control, so all we can do is hope and beg ;)
1. Publish winning stories on main site

2. Publish winning stories on facebook group
  • This one might be more achievable, via the person(s) identified in number 5 above

Thanks, and please give us your opinion!

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Multiple plots in a book
« on: May 24, 2020, 01:37:16 PM »
Your post is quite interesting, because I think we ended up referring to different things, and I see now how it could have been read that way.

Rather than the multiple POV with different stories happening at the same time and coming together at the end (which I also like, hehe, but it needs to be written properly), in this thread I was rather talking about a 'wavy line' of plot instead of the line just going up from beginning to end.

So basically we have a problem, we work towards resolution, there's a climax, and that battle/event/conclusion raises another problem, which gets worked on in a different way, leading to another battle/event/conclusion, and so on. Up and down, up and down, instead of up, up, up, the end!
So what do you think about this one?

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Multiple plots in a book
« on: May 24, 2020, 12:05:04 PM »
When I started reading fantasy it seemed that all books had a single plot: a problem to be solved at the end, with an arc that spanned the book.
I don't know if it's the choice of books I'm reading now or things have changed, but now I'm finding more and more books with multiple plots, multiple battles/climaxes, multiple arcs, and they are so much better for it!

Have you noticed this too?

Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: Gorgeous SF/F book covers!
« on: May 24, 2020, 09:34:38 AM »
Time for more lovely covers!

Subliminal? ;D

Since this is the thread for images...
I'm sorry (not really), but is that Jim Butcher's photo from the 80s?
Or is that how he looks like now after 2 months of lockdown?
He looks like the Knight Rider or like he's going to burst into a power ballad!
:o ;D

Ah, you were asking what he got (=received), and I understood it as you asking what he got (=bought)

Don't you just love the english language!

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