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Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Final - Lord of the Rings vs Discworld And Discworld is your winner!  It held the lead pretty much from the start and Lord of the Rings never really got close at all.

Thank you to everyone who submitted nominations, to the committee that helped to seed those nominations, and everyone who voted and discussed.  I hope you all enjoyed!

October 12, 2015, 03:50:09 AM
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Re: Any good dark heroic fantasy? I think nearly everyone has got a book in the Broken Empire trilogy there don't like as much as the other two  ;D
November 07, 2015, 01:53:17 PM
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Re: What are you currently reading? Finished The Dragon Reborn last night and starting The Shadow Rising today.

WoT after 3 books has been incredible. Looking forward to the rest of the series.

November 12, 2015, 02:49:45 PM
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Re: What are you currently reading?
Fool's Fate - a nice finish to a good trilogy. Bar

Spoiler for Hiden:
Burrich getting killed

which was inevitable that was going to happen, it has the most happy ending I have ever read in fantasy. It has complete closure, and no idea why Hobb decided to continue Fitz's story. A part of me wants to finish here, and to imagine Fitz living forever happy (married with Molly, in good terms with Nettle, and known to everyone who is important in his life) instead of reading his new trilogy when inevitably everything will go to hell again. Considering that in the end of the book, 3-4 years went very fastly, I think that this was original's Hobb idea to finish the saga.

Anyway, will see Fitz again. And the fool.

Now, time to check out with Asimov and to read his Foundation. 7 books there.
Glad you liked it! I liked the ending there too, wouldn't have had any problem with that being the last Fitz book despite the threads left unresolved - it just made it feel more real. That made me apprehensive about the new trilogy, but I enjoyed the first two more than any of the other Fitz books, and the final one is set up brilliantly.  :P

Hope you enjoy Foundation, you're reading them in chronological order? Wonder how much that'll affect how enjoyable you find them.

Are you going to bother reading Rain Wilds or just skip straight to Fitz & The Fool (when you get around to it of course)? Now I have to somehow persuade you to read Ketty Jay as well...  ???

November 14, 2015, 07:41:41 PM
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Re: What are you currently reading?
Planning to read Foundation in order. All of them, 7 books. From what I heard, the original trilogy is awesome (it usually gets mentioned with Dune and Hyperion as the best sci-fi saga) while the others surely cannot be worse than Galactic Empire. Going to read them in chronological order. Is there some other order which is more recommended?
I think that's probably the best order. The prequels are ok (if a little weird), the sequels are a bit meh, but yeah the original trilogy is great if you get into the style. It's very dry - even more so than his other novels - and since it's cobbled together from several stories of different lengths it doesn't have as smooth a story progression as people tend to expect these days. The characters aren't brilliant, but the ideas and the situations are. :)

Planning to read Rain Wilds. Didn't hear many good words for those books, but well, I'll start reading them and see where things go. Haven't actually ever heard for Ketty Jay, but nevertheless, it has to wait. Daniel Abraham (Long Price Quartet and The Dagger and the Coin) from fantasy and Herbert (Dune) from sci-fi will be next in line after I finish Hobb and Asimov. Probably the two remaining Abercrombie standalone novels and Lions of Al-Rassan in between. That should take me the first half of next year.
Cool, it'll be interesting to see what you think. I thought there was a potentially good story in them, but that the execution was really disappointing. Nice tbr list - LPQ is one of my favourite fantasy series, and the first Dune book is brilliant - though I didn't really enjoy the Dune sequels much and couldn't get into DatC when I tried it out.

I had never heard of Ketty Jay either, but people on here kept on recommending them so I ended up giving them a go. I loved them, they're only marginally ousted by Liveships as my favourite fantasy series, so apologies if I gush a bit. I really do think you'd enjoy them though.  :P

In terms of the kind of impression they leave, they're like a mash-up of the best parts of Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and Pirates of the Caribbean, and apparently they're very similar to Firefly as well. The books are fast paced, the kind that you just can't put down at all. The first one is good but not brilliant, but the sequels get better and better (four books in total, no more planned).

The protagonists are the misfit smuggler/pirate crew of the  airship Ketty Jay (plus its two smaller outfliers), each nursing their own secrets - they're not the deepest characters, but each one is vivid and interesting, their relationships are really well done, and they all develop well over the course of the series. The setting is brilliant, with loads of unusual and unique twists, and it really feels alive. For me the only flaw was a lack of depth, but there are few series that I've had as much fun reading.

@ScarletBea is reading the second one at the moment I think, so maybe she can weigh in with some fresher thoughts since it's been a while since I read them...

I get so tempted by Fool's Assassin in the book shops, the cover is so shiny and pretty.  :-[
Resist, resist! The rewards by reading all the books that came before will be big :D
(I can't wait for you to read Liveship Traders, I wonder what you'll think of them!)

I'm also going into Rain Wilds in my next Hobb's incursion - I guess I am also waiting to see if they'll republish them with the new covers hehe
Yeah, plus you'd rob some of the moments of their true worth. I can't imagine appreciating some of the best bits of the new books that much if I hadn't read the rest of Fitz's journey first. Plus, yeah, Liveships.  :P

November 14, 2015, 11:28:02 PM
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Re: Balance between Good v Evil http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil

Example of Literature made me laugh as I'm currently reading the Night Watch trilogy I guess that's why I've been thinking of this  ;D

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GreyAndGrayMorality @Revan thought you might like reading this article  :)

December 25, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
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Wanting better prose in fantasy literature Maybe I'm just becoming a grump at an early age and my preferences are narrowing down, but what I've really found off-putting about a lot of contemporary fantasy I've been trying to get into is the level of mastery of language and the quality of the prose. When I was younger I wouldn't have paid any mind to this and just enjoyed the entertainment factor, but now it's getting harder to overlook.

Perhaps I'm becoming a literary snob.

January 13, 2016, 08:16:09 AM
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Re: Book Recommendation What Revan said, plus Tales of Ketty Jay if you're ever in the mood for a fun, action-packed adventure!
January 17, 2016, 11:23:45 PM
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Re: What are you currently reading?
By saying grimdark is a genre with complex characters who are gray, that's basically saying Grimdark is good writing.
I can't find the blog post now, but Lawrence wrote one about how Grimdark is really just mature writing.
As for Sanderson's characters, I can agree that none stand out a lot to me. What makes him one of my favorite authors is the plot twists. That's the thing with an Abercrombie book. By the time I read Red Country, I was able to predict his plots. I knew which characters would die and wouldn't, I knew exactly how the fights would play out, etc. After Best Served Cold, he lost that "new author smell."
I still will always love the characters and story from The First Law Trilogy.
By that definition, Ketty Jay is arguably grimdark (ignoring the first book where the characters aren't as well-realised) - and KJ has the same tone and feel as Star Wars, which is about as far from grim and dark as you can get.  ;D

I consider Lord of the Rings' prose second to none in fantasy, and its influence speaks for itself, despite that the characters are completely divided into the good ones and the bad ones. While someone might not like it, it is hard to argue that LotR isn't good writing.
Hi!  :P

I'm completely in agreement with George Orwell's statement that "good prose should be transparent, like a window pane". In other words, the best prose is writing that completely transports you into another world, to the point where you don't even realise you're reading.

For me, LotR is a great example of the opposite of that. Even Rothfuss, who often has attacks of floweriness in his writing, managed some of that clarity at times; Tolkien rarely did. The world Tolkien built was brilliant, the stories he told are enduring, and his influence is absolutely everywhere, but his writing is not without significant flaws.
 

January 21, 2016, 08:15:40 PM
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Re: Sanderson's Secret Mistborn Novella
Having just finished Bands of Mourning, I reckon it's pretty obvious what it's about - that revelation at the end of the epilogue. Couldn't believe it, can't wait to find out more. Managed to get a copy of it while it was available, so I'll be diving in right away!  8)

You finished it already? Hoping to start it tonight.

How many books you've read this year?
Yup, started it this morning, finished it a couple of hours ago. Really enjoyed it, though at times the plot felt a little forced, and a couple of the twists were way too obvious. Only slightly worse than Shadows of Self though.

17 so far, most of them have been really good too!  :o

January 27, 2016, 12:53:12 PM
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