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Re: What are you currently reading?
How many of us are reading or have just finished The Copper Promise? If I count myself I think there's 4 of us at present: me, @Jmacyk, @xiagan and @Lady Ty. Is that some sort of a record for something that isn't a book club read?
It's the Copper Promise movement, and it's sweeping the nation, er, forum.  ;D

That was so 2014. 2015 is the year of The Iron Ghost movement  ;) (will be buying it next month or so!)

Finished A Betrayal in Winter last night, and will move on to An Autumn War (book #3), as well as get started on Wee Free Men for this month's book club!

March 29, 2015, 11:46:10 AM
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Re: What are you currently reading?
How many of us are reading or have just finished The Copper Promise? If I count myself I think there's 4 of us at present: me, @Jmacyk, @xiagan and @Lady Ty. Is that some sort of a record for something that isn't a book club read?
It's the Copper Promise movement, and it's sweeping the nation, er, forum.  ;D

Do I eventually get my own army? That would be sweet ...
A lizard woman army  ;D

March 29, 2015, 01:11:30 PM
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Re: What are you currently reading?
How many of us are reading or have just finished The Copper Promise? If I count myself I think there's 4 of us at present: me, @Jmacyk, @xiagan and @Lady Ty. Is that some sort of a record for something that isn't a book club read?
It's the Copper Promise movement, and it's sweeping the nation, er, forum.  ;D

Do I eventually get my own army? That would be sweet ...
What, you don't already have one in a hidden citadel somewhere, Jen? I thought The Copper Promise was an autobiography.

March 30, 2015, 12:07:38 AM
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Re: What are you currently reading?
How many of us are reading or have just finished The Copper Promise? If I count myself I think there's 4 of us at present: me, @Jmacyk, @xiagan and @Lady Ty. Is that some sort of a record for something that isn't a book club read?
It's the Copper Promise movement, and it's sweeping the nation, er, forum.  ;D

Do I eventually get my own army? That would be sweet ...
What, you don't already have one in a hidden citadel somewhere, Jen? I thought The Copper Promise was an autobiography.

With me as the All Powerful Dragon God of Destruction? Actually, that sounds pretty good...

*considers rewriting the books from the POV of Y'Ruen*

Oh, I finally finished The Iron Goat.  Not sure why it took so long, as all very exciting, and the characters all so well drawn. Just term time tiredness.  Well done, and highly recommended to everyone. 

March 30, 2015, 10:01:25 AM
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Re: What are you currently reading?
Oh, I finally finished The Iron Goat. 
That's Jen's brand new book ;D Requires very strong jaws ;D

On the other hand, The Iron Ghost is still not on my library - I have to ask them to buy it hehe

March 30, 2015, 10:07:41 AM
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Re: What are you currently reading?
Oh, I finally finished The Iron Goat. 
That's Jen's brand new book ;D Requires very strong jaws ;D

Oh bugger. Ghost. Ghost. Iron ghost. As in holy ghost not holy goat!

March 30, 2015, 10:09:02 AM
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Re: Bear in Sheep's Genre
But can't people looking for sword and sorcery just look under the "sword and sorcery" subgenre...?

I don't consider swords and sorcery to be a sub-genre of Fantasy, they are the genre.

Start spending $2.00 a click for ad space and you might find yourself a little less willing to share a genre.

See, this is your problem. S&S is not Epic Fantasy. S&S is not Dark Fantasy. S&S is not Urban Fantasy, but they're all encompassed under the same title. Thus, it is a sub-genre. Fantasy denotes "the Fantastical." If that happens to involve a little love with a bear, so be it. The market is bloated with genre-defying monstrosities (especially in the ebook market), and yes, it does get a bit taxing when paranormal romance gets all the love. But you need to remember, it's still a part of the Fantasy spectrum.

You're paying money for ad space that I can assure you won't compete with a brand spanking new Starz "original" series (Outlander). Which strikes me funny because it's obviously Science Fiction, not Fantasy but eh.

But all in all, cordoning off "Romantic Fantasy with a Bear" will get you nowhere. People are still going to buy it. Does having #1 on a chart of some off the wall sub-genre matter at the end of the day? No. People buying your book matters. This is called competition. Genre labeling should not matter in marketing, only through personal reviews and recommendation, but that's an entirely different debate.

March 30, 2015, 06:05:00 PM
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Re: Am I Sexist?: Males reading female authored fantasy
Personally, I found The Kingkiller Chronicle, and especially The Slow Regard of Silent Things, far more problematic and uncomfortable to read as a feminist than a lot of 'rape and ultraviolence' grimdark novels. The character of Auri, in particular, I find profoundly voyeuristic - here's this damaged, clearly mentally ill young woman, and we're supposed to find her, what, kookie and appealing and romantic. The descriptions of her in Silent Things are clearly highly sexualised and objectified, yet somehow we're asked to assume it's fine to read lengthy descriptions of her naked because she's a child of nature. Not because she a vulnerable hotty in a very short dress, oh no. 

I haven't read Mirror Empire, which is the original book up for discussion here, but I wanted to chime in that I found The Name of the Wind (Kingkiller book one--I haven't read The Slow Regard) problematic in a lot of ways too. My particular issue was with male main character Kvothe positioning his love interest, Denna, as this distant and unfathomable perfect creature, even in the "present" when he's been through his whole story and is relating it all to Chronicler. This concept that men can never hope to understand women seems harmless, but creates a lot of problems, such as contributing to the dehumanizing and objectifying of female characters.

This is not to say, of course, that male characters who view women this way shouldn't exist, but I think this is where the point of view of the novel is crucial. The bulk of Kingkiller is Kvothe telling his own story, obviously, so he's not going to critique his own misconceptions--but Chronicler and Bast are both given POV time, which could have been utilized to at least question Kvothe's "oh I could never begin to understand this woman" posturing.

This is also why, coming at it from an author's perspective, choosing an unusual POV to write from can do a lot to distinguish one's story from others in the genre; and why branching out to those authors who are from or write characters who are from marginalized or uncommon POVs can be really rewarding to readers.

March 30, 2015, 10:12:59 PM
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Re: What are you currently reading?
Oh, I finally finished The Iron Goat. 
That's Jen's brand new book ;D Requires very strong jaws ;D

Oh bugger. Ghost. Ghost. Iron ghost. As in holy ghost not holy goat!

Haaa! You're not the first person to call it that.  ;) Half tempted to sneak an iron goat in the third book somewhere.
You have to love autocorrect. Hey, if George Martin can do stuff like that in ASoIaF, you can do it in your 3rd book.

March 30, 2015, 11:16:54 PM
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Re: What are you currently reading? Please include a goat, even if it's not iron, we need a true-origin-secret to pass to our heirs ;)
March 31, 2015, 01:30:18 AM
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