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Re: What are you currently reading? Finished Turning Darkness Into Light by Marie Brennan and it is super good.

Starting The Tiger and the Wolf by Adrian Tchaikovsky and I am quite interested but also kinda wanting something to happen. The book starts fast then slows almost immediately.

September 19, 2019, 08:26:14 AM
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Re: Shrug of the Author
I don't understand why readers feel entitled to the end of the story? They may have invested money in previous books and time in reading them, but it is the authors choice to write them and agents and editors choice to unleash them on the world not the customers.

SM Stirlings the Sea Peoples Embervers book #14 was so poorly recieved my American Import hard back cost me just less than £2. I haven't read it yet as the previous book was pretty poor, but I have shelf full of the series in hardback. Instead of pumping out a book a year regardless of quality perhaps slowing down would have retained readers and protecting the reputation of the work before would have been a better option.

Perhaps we won't get the end of some of the series, but better it takes a while and what we do get is worth reading.

Because when I picked up A Game of Thrones, I picked it up in the knowledge that it was a series and the belief and implicit promise that it would be finished. For it not to be finished is false advertising. If there's hitches, fine. I get that. If it's just given up on, be that by author or by publisher (coughseabeggarscough) its morally bankrupt.

October 22, 2019, 03:13:34 AM
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Re: City of Stairs: would you recommend it to me? Its pretty good, which is akin to me raving about given it is written in present tense. I'm not sure you'd like it Eclipse, but I think it ticks enough of your boxes that I'd suggest you to pick it up for cheap if you can.
November 07, 2019, 09:03:30 PM
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Re: Last books in series (usually bigger than trilogies) I like cupiscent's point. I think its wise. I also think that to an extent we might want to consider the nature of fatigue. Harry Potter was 17 years beginning to end. I think that doing something that intense, that involving, for that long... it will tire you out. That tiredness can erode judgement, makes people impatient - or nervous. The pressure too is a big issue. And on and on - I think the study of how prolonged acts of creation impacts people is a very worthwhile one that's not really been done. Authors get more ambitious too. Get confident, then overconfident.

But with all this said, yes. Insofar as I've ever heard, successful authors get more licence - and its always welcome when they turn in more words for the cash cow (coughrobertjordancough). They can blow through deadlines more easily, win more arguments with editors, etc.etc.

I'm now trying to think of an author who got faster paced and more brief with time and it is not easy.

November 07, 2019, 09:18:24 PM
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Re: Miscellaneous Musings about Books
^ interesting though. I guess when you review a book, you focus only on certain elements, regardless of your experience.
That's why, in my opinion, you should only trust a review completely if you know the person and what they usually like.
That's why I trust reviews from forum people more than from strangers, and also why I only like to read 'external' reviews after I've the book (which completely defeats the purpose, hehe)

I don't think it does, although I would say that as I'm 90% the same myself. I read reviews to figure out if other people had the same experience, not to judge what to read.

November 18, 2019, 07:25:05 PM
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Re: Books women like vs books men like You can absolutely classify books and even whole genres and sub-genres as being woman - or male - targeted without being sexist. Its just an objective assessment of what the marketing folks are doing.

Now, the reasons why they get put there - or calling them girly, or dismissing them as "oh that's a woman book" - at the very least creep towards sexism and are in some cases dancing merrily across the border. Not always. Depends slightly on where you put "I'm just falling in line with reality and I can't help if reality is sexist" for one thing. Is an agent being sexist if they advise a female to use a male pen name to write Fantasy/male to use a female pen name to write Romance, or just sensible? But it's getting into the territory.

As for books targeted at men... frankly, most of them when you include all the books ever written. Even today, most 'trad' fantasy books written will have a male or gender-neutral name on the cover and a male protagonist and will be about things that are culturally seen as male in the western world. Well. Most 'trad' fantasy books for adults. YA is very much orientated towards the female market.

As for what makes a book likely to be assigned as "market to girls" or "market to boys"... other than the gender of the author, its basically where it falls on the "touchy feely" vs "smashy testes" spectrum.

November 22, 2019, 11:04:18 PM
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Re: Books women like vs books men like Just because a product is aimed at a certain demographic doesn't mean only that demographic will enjoy it. The fact that lots of women do enjoy trad fantasy doesn't alter the fact it's been marketed in the belief that men will make up the majority of those reading it for a long, long time.

But if we're talking books that are written by their authors in the belief that pretty much only one gender will read them... well, I think that to start with most authors don't think that way. But some end up going that way by accident. Generally those tend to end up appealing to women only, because the whole "most things have been marketed for men historically" thing means things have to be really uber-masculine before they fall out of what women will read. But these things do exist. Just google John Norman Gor to find out.

November 25, 2019, 12:17:25 AM
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Re: Name dropping popular authors Without wishing to downplay your collective ire, am I the only one who simply skips over all those things without really noticing?
December 04, 2019, 08:43:10 PM
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Re: Creating rules behind recommendations?
I go with the vibe and feel. So for example, I might recommend Gormenghast for someone who likes Tolkien, or RJ Barker for someone that enjoyed Robin Hobb's Liveship trilogy, or China Mieville for someone that reads Neil Gaiman, or Ben Aaronson, or Clive Barker. Keepin' it social rather than algorithmic :)

Man those recs would have gone really badly for me :P


The most important rule of recs should be to figure out what the other person actually wants.

December 06, 2019, 07:19:32 PM
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Re: What are you currently reading? I was going to finish The Bone Ships by RJ Barker today but after I missed a train today, I popped into a Red Cross and found The Story of the Stone by Barry Hughart so I brought it and will probably be mainlining it. The fact Hughart only wrote 3 books is probable proof of objectively evil entities in the universe. My favourite line from it so far:

"You have a hole in your heart. All young people do. It's there to catch the wonderful things of the world, and later on it gets filled up by broken things".

Started Godblind

Stopped reading Godblind at 33% in ,not my cup of tea  sorry.

Good lords, it's been a while since we've agreed on a book.

December 07, 2019, 08:45:54 PM
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