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Re: Dark Fantasy v Grimdark I think the Elric Saga was more of a nihilistic epic fantasy than either dark fantasy or grimdark.  It had a lot of that going-out-on-adventures feel, but the adventures almost always ended in ruin.

I tried to explain the difference between dark fantasy and horror once by saying that in horror, the protagonists tend to have little or no way to fight back -- whereas in dark fantasy, there may be horrific elements but the protagonists can directly fight the horrific/supernatural enemies that plague them.  They have more agency.

To me, then, grimdark means stories where the characters don't fight those horrors, but either embody or ignore them.  Worlds where violence is a reflex if not the norm, and where the rule of law is shaky, corrupt or completely absent -- where the most pragmatic philosophy is 'do unto others before they do unto you'.

February 10, 2014, 05:08:36 PM
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Re: What are you currently reading? Finished Pauline M. Ross's The Fire Mages.  Now jumping back into the Foreigner universe with C.J. Cherryh's Inheritor.  Quite an extensive (and a bit snore-worthy) 'previously' segment on this one, but I'm past it now.
March 16, 2015, 05:39:59 PM
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Re: What are you currently reading? Reading Half-Resurrection Blues by Daniel Jose Older at the moment.  Urban fantasy.  I like the idea of it, but I'm not sure I entirely appreciate the execution.  Some of the narration is great, but the dialogue lacks so far, for me.
April 17, 2016, 05:19:21 PM
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