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Re: The Future of Fantasy I think that it isn't going in a single direction so much as branching out in multiple directions. The segment of fantasy that seems to be trying to be considered literature the most certainly seems to be heading towards introspection rather than questing, but the rest seem to be going off and doing their own thing. What is frequently being called "urban fantasy" these days is attempting to incorporate elements of the hard-boiled detective novel and the romance genre. Epic Fantasy seems to be trying to shake off some of the eurocentricism in favor of other things. Sword and sorcery seems to be flirting with tropes from the horror genre.

I agree that the more "traditional" tales will still be around because it's culturally important to everyone to keep repeating them.

February 15, 2011, 02:24:39 AM
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Re: R Scott Bakker A few points and then I will probably fade back into lurking again...

-I found Bakker's logic circular at best. Women are repressed because men cannot control their urges. Society cannot be changed by the individuals participating in them. Nothing can change... but men have to. Ummm, I might be misreading something somewhere, but that seems contradictory. Besides, society and culture are not static unchanging things and they never were to start with.

-IF THE EXCEPTIONAL INDIVIDUAL WHO CAN RISE ABOVE THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES IS "UNREALISTIC" THAN HAVE MORE OF THEM AROUND SO THAT THEY AREN'T SO EXCEPTIONAL. See? Fixed!  ;D

-There are a lot of women who fully understand the male gaze too. Guess what the big problem with the first essays critically detailing the male gaze was? The inability to theorize a female gaze. Hence a lot of work trying to figure out what a female gaze would entail ever since. More male gaze doing the same thing it has always done, isn't edgy or new. At all. Ever. Trying to claim that it is beneficial and helpful... what about having a guy see a woman as something other than a fleshy condom that should submit to his gaze?

-If a lot of people are giving someone the same criticism, then something got lost in the transition between what the author intended and what was written. I for one can't see how more portrayals of sexual violence could make male readers uncomfortable unless their sympathies and perspectives were firmly and irretrievably set with the victim of that sexual violence. Since adult men are sexually assaulted so rarely, I don't see how one can do that without a non-objectified female character or small children in the narrative.

-Also, a lot of people avoid calling themselves feminists because the term "feminist" has been used to summarily dismiss women's voices who would like egalitarian goals. Feminism isn't about things being at the expense of men. It's about making things better for everyone by not ignoring the other half of the human population with two X chromosomes.


April 28, 2012, 06:00:24 AM
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Re: Fantasy Books Everyone Should Read I'm probably going to get myself branded a royal pain in the rear, but I have difficulty taking any list of "must read" books seriously if no one ever gives a reason for why they think they are a "must read" in the first place. :P
June 27, 2012, 05:56:52 PM
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Re: Romance/Relationship in Fantasy I like having a variety of romances and relationships in novels because otherwise I get bored. I'm okay with the ill fated lovers trope, but I don't want it to be the be all end all. I'm okay with the protagonist finally getting their dream lover, but it doesn't have to happen all the time. I want it to be an important character building subplot, not a prize.


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Is the hero really the hero if he doesn't get the girl? I think not.

What if the girl wants someone else? Sorry, that's a silly means of measuring heroic-ness without context. :P A hero can still be a hero and not get the girl. Or boy. Or whatever.

December 18, 2013, 09:42:11 PM
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Re: What Sci-Fi book are you currently reading? Just finished The Martian by Andy Weir. :)
June 17, 2014, 05:09:58 AM
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Re: Do you avoid 'YA'? What does it mean? No, I don't avoid books that might be interesting because someone else decided I'm not their target audience. It just means I might interpret the material differently from the target demographic. Some people write to that demographic, some don't worry about it. Either is fine.

There are lots of reasons to read a book in the first place too. I have friends who teach who have read all of the Twilight books, not so much for enjoyment, but because they noticed their students reading them and decided to see what the fuss was about. It can't be uncommon for books in a house to get read by everyone in that house regardless of age, especially if there are younger people there (if only for the parents to keep up on what media their kids are consuming).

Point in fact, there are books which I read a kid that actually became more interesting when I got older and reread them (Baum's Oz books spring to mind). There are also books where I went "I read that? And liked it?! I was such an idiot!" That's okay too.

It might be more interesting to ask which parts of YA are speaking to a broader audience than getting the vapors over "the wrong people" are reading it.

July 09, 2014, 10:39:00 PM
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