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Title: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: eclipse on December 27, 2013, 05:11:50 PM
Looking out for a non-fantasy Detective Novel

I  like Reading Jack Reacher,Travis McGee,Harry Hole and Harry Bosch , I prefer reading a Series but if there's an Outstanding stand alone I will try that. For Fantasy I enjoy Dresden, Thraxas ,Garret and Burton & Swinburne

Also I prefer reading American or European Detectives over British ones for some reason

Loved the Killing tv series both versions,Lilyhammer,Life on mars (UK)
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Doctor_Chill on December 27, 2013, 05:16:45 PM
If you like the American West and Indians, I would recommend James D. Doss's Charlie Moon series. I haven't read them, but my grandmother is in love with them.

Working off more recommendations for this recommendation, I haven't read The Last Policeman by Ben H. Winters, but it sounds like an awesome near apocalyptic (if that makes any sense) police/detective novel.

If all else fails, you can't go wrong with Chandler. Unless, dialect, of course.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Steerpike on February 13, 2014, 02:51:06 PM
You definitely want to check out Robert Crais' Elvis Cole / Joe Pike series.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: eclipse on February 13, 2014, 05:42:23 PM
Thank you both I check them out  :)
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Steerpike on February 13, 2014, 06:05:06 PM
Thank you both I check them out  :)

You're welcome. Honestly, the books in that genre that I will buy automatically, because I can never put them down once I'm reading them, are Lee Child's Reacher books, Connelly's Bosch books, and the Crais books I mentioned. I think you'll like them.
Title: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: mgraves on February 13, 2014, 07:05:20 PM
Jim Butcher's Dresden Files.


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Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Jonny_Anonymous on May 01, 2014, 10:34:48 AM
Anything by James Ellroy is a must buy for me. I am in love with crime noir and I think he ranks as the best noir writer in the world. Start with his L.A. Quartet: The Black Dahlia, The Big Nowhere, L.A. Confidential and White Jazz. Also I know you said no British books but I would also recommend Ian Rankin's Inspector Rebus novels, they are set in Edinburgh, Scotland. 
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Ben on May 03, 2014, 03:38:27 AM
I recommend the Denis Lehane Kenzie & Genarro series.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: eclipse on May 03, 2014, 12:56:41 PM
Thank you I will look them up  :) and welcome to the forums Ben
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: The Kyngdoms on May 07, 2014, 11:17:26 PM
If you fancy something old school, The Maltese Falcon (Dashiell Hammett) or The Big Sleep (Raymond Chandler) are two I've recently(ish) finished.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Elfy on May 07, 2014, 11:53:19 PM
Rob Thomas (creator of Veronica Mars) has just released the first Veronica Mars novel; The Thousand Dollar Tan Line. It was written by Rob Thomas and Jennifer Graham. The character was originally conceived as the central character in a teen detective novel series that Rob Thomas was working on at the time, and later morphed into the TV show. The book is set after the Veronica Mars film, and it does reference events and characters from both the show and the film. You get a little extra depth and those flashes of 'I remember you/that!' if you were a fan of the show, however you don't really need to have seen the show or the film to enjoy this as a straight modern noirish detective novel.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Overlord on May 08, 2014, 08:19:42 AM
Rob Thomas (creator of Veronica Mars) has just released the first Veronica Mars novel; The Thousand Dollar Tan Line. It was written by Rob Thomas and Jennifer Graham. The character was originally conceived as the central character in a teen detective novel series that Rob Thomas was working on at the time, and later morphed into the TV show. The book is set after the Veronica Mars film, and it does reference events and characters from both the show and the film. You get a little extra depth and those flashes of 'I remember you/that!' if you were a fan of the show, however you don't really need to have seen the show or the film to enjoy this as a straight modern noirish detective novel.

Just bought it… thanks! :)
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: eclipse on May 08, 2014, 05:49:10 PM
My Fantasy TBR pile is big enough, now you even adding even more to my non-fantasy pile TBR  :)
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Lady Ty on October 28, 2015, 11:55:47 PM
Reviving this thread because I am reading the eleventh in an extremely good detective series and thought @Eclipse (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9661) and others who like an the occasional crime treat may also enjoy.

Inspector Gamache and the Three Pines Series by Louise Penny.

The quiet village of Three Pines in rural Quebec has an interesting assortment of inhabitants including a poet, two artists, an antiques collector and a psychologist turned bookshop owner who meet in each other’s homes or the friendly local bistro to socialise, exchange gossip and enjoy good food.  Strangely, for such a pleasant restful village, Three Pines does tend to have rather more murders than one would expect. Be assured this is not at all a Miss Marple village but neither is it Harry Bosch style crime fiction but a pretty good mid balance.

Chief Inspector Armand Gamache, Head of Homicide for the Surete of Quebec, comes with his team to investigate in the first book, Still Life.  Thereafter he and the team return at frequent intervals, to solve new murders, while getting to know and understand the villagers more. This makes it hard when those they like are among the suspects.  Sometimes the actual crimes occur in unusual locations elsewhere but there is always a link to Three Pines. Although the crimes are often brutal the violence is not dwelt upon, more the conventional step by step of crime solving,with false leads or interference from authority slowing the team down.

This series really should be read in order as many themes and storylines run parallel and develop throughout. There is an on-going sub-plot of corruption and betrayal in the highest eschelons of the Surete of Quebec which has huge consequences as it comes to a head. The personalities and dynamics of the Homicide Team are well portrayed and the lives of some villagers are also explored in detail. Over time we may become fond of or exasperated by them because there are thoughtful explorations of human strengths, weaknesses and dilemmas, but not written in a trite or mawkish way.

The final and extra pleasure of this series was all the general or detailed information about customs, history and locations in and around French speaking Quebec.  These facts are worked in effortlessly but were fascinating.
 
I gladly recommend this series and so far have read/listened to and enjoyed all ten books, always waiting impatiently for the next one to come out. 

http://www.louisepenny.com/
 




Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: ClintACK on October 29, 2015, 12:34:13 AM
Harlan Coben.  Myron Bolitar is Harry Dresden without the magic.  A stand-alone, the Stranger is something I've always thought should exist -- a mystery without a murder.  Instead of life-and-death stakes, the protagonist stands to lose his family and his whole self-identity if he can't figure things out.  Very cool.

Parnell Hall  A Clue for the Puzzle Lady.  It's a cozy mystery centered around crossword puzzles, sort of.

One of these days, I should go back and finish reading the Inspector Gamache books.  Too many good books to read.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Adrian_Selby on December 06, 2015, 09:47:59 AM
Surely Arthur Conan-Doyle's Sherlock Holmes stories? :)
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: JMack on December 06, 2015, 11:54:45 AM
Surely Arthur Conan-Doyle's Sherlock Holmes stories? :)

Except for the "not British" in the OP.
Though hopefully we can cure @Eclipse (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9661) of that strange reverse-nationalism sometime. ???  :P
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: eclipse on December 06, 2015, 12:52:33 PM
Maybe I should update to say modern  British crime stories don't do anything for me,Victorian British crime stories are fine through  ;D

and I loved The Shardlake Series but is that historical fiction or a mystery fiction or both?
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Rostum on December 06, 2015, 04:07:59 PM
Have you read the ellis peters stuff? Or given name of the Rose a go?
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: ultamentkiller on December 06, 2015, 04:52:57 PM
My Mom has been raving to me about the Pendergast series. She basically told me the plot of the third book, Cabinet of Curiosities, and it was pretty awesome. So check them out.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Nestat on December 06, 2015, 08:16:51 PM
Looking out for a non-fantasy Detective Novel

I  like Reading Jack Reacher,Travis McGee,Harry Hole and Harry Bosch , I prefer reading a Series but if there's an Outstanding stand alone I will try that. For Fantasy I enjoy Dresden, Thraxas ,Garret and Burton & Swinburne

Also I prefer reading American or European Detectives over British ones for some reason

When it comes to crime, I mostly read noir. Here are a few of the best:

First Blood - David Morrell. I bought this when I saw the words "Based on the novel" in the opening credits of the film. If you like Jack Reacher, you'll love this. Sheriff Teasle is a much more sympathetic character and he's also portrayed as a (Korean) war hero., as the book is an involved critique of how Vietnam vets were treated when they returned home.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/113110.First_Blood?from_search=true&search_version=service (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/113110.First_Blood?from_search=true&search_version=service)

Another Reacheresque thriller is I Am Pilgrim by Terry Hayes. A high-octane thriller about a secret agent tracking down a terrorist before he strikes. It tells the story of the agent's investigation and the terrorist's life as he plans mass murder.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18144124-i-am-pilgrim?from_search=true&search_version=service (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18144124-i-am-pilgrim?from_search=true&search_version=service)

And another brilliant read in that vein is Child 44 by Tom Rob Smith, inspired by the Rostov murders in the 1950s. It's the story of a young MGB agent who discovers a serial killer on the loose in Russia. As Stalin's government recognises itself as the perfect state, they declare the agent a traitor and he has to go on the run while tracking down the child killer.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2161733.Child_44?from_search=true&search_version=service (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2161733.Child_44?from_search=true&search_version=service)

And while we're in eastern Europe, I should mention Polar Star by Martin Cruz Smith. It's the second Arkady Renko novel - feel free to read Gorky Park first. But this one was absolutely amazing. Renko is a detective hiding on the Russian fishing fleet after the fiasco at Gorky Park. Then there's a murder and it all goes to hell in a handbasket for him...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/778285.Polar_Star?from_search=true&search_version=service (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/778285.Polar_Star?from_search=true&search_version=service)

Someone mentioned Dashiell Hammett and Raymond Chandler earlier. I loved Marlowe, I didn't much care for Sam Spade. But the second-best noir I ever read was Point Blank (aka Hunter aka Payback) by Richard Stark: "Double-crossed, shot, and left for dead — by his wife." It's a very large, angry man taking on the mafia.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3148466-point-blank?from_search=true&search_version=service (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3148466-point-blank?from_search=true&search_version=service)

And the best I read was Chester Himes' A Rage in Harlem. In a genre full of angry misogynists, this was the most visceral noir I've ever had the pleasure of reading.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/565816.A_Rage_in_Harlem?from_search=true&search_version=service (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/565816.A_Rage_in_Harlem?from_search=true&search_version=service)


I hope that's enough to be getting on with!


Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: ultamentkiller on December 06, 2015, 08:21:55 PM
Huh. I had no idea Child 44 was based on a book. Good thing I didn't watch the movie.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Rostum on December 09, 2015, 04:56:14 PM
I read a Lawrence Block short story last night thought it was competent but predictable. He seems to be huge in the States so maybe his longer stuff is better.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Adrian_Selby on January 11, 2016, 07:30:36 PM
If non fantasy includes sci-fi, then can I recommend Altered Carbon?
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Shay_Fox on February 16, 2016, 08:20:19 PM
I recommend the Denis Lehane Kenzie & Genarro series.

Its really a great ben thanks for sharing this. I am also start to read this !!
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: RJ Barker on March 09, 2017, 10:37:10 AM
I'm currently reading The Spenser series by Robert B Parker and they are wonderful. I'm a real lover of modern american noir and I'd be willing to place money on Parker being a huge influence on both Robert Crais and Harlan Coben. They're just brilliant, if American crime is your thing I'd advise picking up the first Spenser novel 'The Godwulf Manuscript' as soon as you can.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: JMack on March 12, 2017, 06:20:54 PM
I'm currently reading The Spenser series by Robert B Parker and they are wonderful. I'm a real lover of modern american noir and I'd be willing to place money on Parker being a huge influence on both Robert Crais and Harlan Coben. They're just brilliant, if American crime is your thing I'd advise picking up the first Spenser novel 'The Godwulf Manuscript' as soon as you can.

I read and read Spender until Parket started to repeat himself. Took a looooong time for that to happen. Great stuff.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Pwibble on March 13, 2017, 08:38:30 PM
I have read everything I could find by Henning Mankell. The Wallander books are very good, and provide a real feeling of small town Sweden in places (if that interests you!). Fred Vargas has a series featuring Commander Adamsberg which are also very good (pseudonym for a [female] French historian and archaeologist) are also recommended. I think though that my highest recommendation would be for Arturo Perez Reverte. Spanish ex-war correspondent who has four novels in particular: The Flanders Panel, The Fencing Master, The Seville Communion and most famously The Dumas Club that I think would qualify as crime, or at least mystery (not hard-boiled crime like some of those mentioned). I really enjoyed all four, although I lost interest in his nautical Captain Alatriste novels. For something a bit different you could try Death and the Penguin but Andrey Kurkov. Slightly surreal but entertaining nonetheless.

Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: youandibooks on March 13, 2017, 09:00:53 PM
I would recommend James Patterson's early Alex Cross novels such as Along Came A Spider, Kiss The Girls, and Jack and Jill.) These are the books I approach when I need a short, sharp thrilling fiction adrenaline hit.

As someone mentioned previous, the original Sherlock Holmes stories are very much worth reading. I would perhaps recommend reading Adventures of Sherlock Holmes first. If you do wish to do them chronologically then the first is A Study In Scarlet but some people don't like it (as much) as only half the story follows Sherlock but it does have a few famous scenes where Sherlock meets Watson and such.

At a similar sort of time when Sherlock Holmes stories were released, a French author called Gaston Leroux (of The Phantom of the Opera fame) wrote mystery books about an amazing young detective called Joseph Routabille (...he might have been a journalist but he used his deduction skills to solve crimes.) The first of these is The Mystery of the Yellow Room. It is cited as being the first ever "closed room" mystery. This is one of my personal favourites and I think you can get this one cheap or maybe even free on Amazon. :)
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Alex on February 13, 2019, 11:35:06 AM
If you want something to give your investigative brain a real puzzle to work out, White Lies by Jeremy Bates.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Skip on February 13, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Dashiell Hammett
Raymond Chandler
and do we really need to keep talking? OK, then.
Walter Moseley.

I've read a number of the other big names. One or another of them might come in fourth place, but the other horses would already be back in the stable.
Title: Re: Recommend me a Detective Novel
Post by: Peat on February 13, 2019, 09:08:35 PM
If you like historical detective novels, maybe check out Paul Doherty's Egyptian stuff. Really well done imo.

Maybe look up James McEllroy's stuff if you haven't done so already.

Also, despite knowing this is kinda the opposite of the sort of what you asked... but John le Carre's A Call for the Dead is basically a detective story, only with a spy instead of a detective. And very good. Even if its fairly modern British...