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Should contest winners be ineligible to win the next one or two contests?

Yes, two months is fair
0 (0%)
Yes, but one month is enough
1 (5.6%)
No, there is no reason to change the rules like this
15 (83.3%)
I don't care
2 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Voting closed: October 20, 2016, 01:09:22 PM

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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2016, 06:50:25 PM »
[Sighs]



That's strangely demoralising.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2016, 09:21:26 PM by ArcaneArtsVelho »
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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2016, 07:08:24 PM »
right?!

especially in contrast to how many folks win with their first entry.  *whew*

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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2016, 07:22:45 PM »
right?!

especially in contrast to how many folks win with their first entry.  *whew*
Dude, sorry but the winners' circle is thataway ---->

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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2016, 07:43:34 PM »
Thanks again for great work, @Raptori! Very interesting to see. I didn't know (or realized) that first time winning was a thing!
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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2016, 07:46:18 PM »
Happy to help, it's interesting stuff!  ;D

I'd noticed on the sheet that a fair few people had won with their first or second submission, didn't realise it was quite so prevalent though. Good to have the stats to back us up when we say the contest is newbie-friendly! I do wonder whether it's slightly skewed by the data from the early years of the contest though...
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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2016, 08:10:11 PM »
I do wonder whether it's slightly skewed by the data from the early years of the contest though...
I'm sure it is. Fewer entries, no regulars... Chances to win with a first entry were definitely higher.
I bet it looks different if you only count from when I took over.
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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2016, 08:17:42 PM »
I do wonder whether it's slightly skewed by the data from the early years of the contest though...
I'm sure it is. Fewer entries, no regulars... Chances to win with a first entry were definitely higher.
I bet it looks different if you only count from when I took over.
Which month was that? Should really mark it with a line on the spreadsheet!
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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2016, 08:27:19 PM »
From my head I'd say Dec'13. But let me check...
Yep. So let's say Jan'14 for a clean start. :)
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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #54 on: September 21, 2016, 08:36:45 PM »
From my head I'd say Dec'13. But let me check...
Yep. So let's say Jan'14 for a clean start. :)
Coolio!

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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2016, 09:17:53 PM »
Done! I've put the new and old stats in for ease of comparison. It doesn't change a huge amount; repeat winners increase by 10%, new winners decrease by 10%, debut winners decrease by 20%. (Therefore new winners whose story is not their debut increase by 10%.)




Entries before first win for all winners:




Total wins and total entries for contest winners:




Regulars who have not yet won a contest:

This didn't change at all. Every single person who entered five contests or more before @xiagan took over won at least once.  :o Probably due to the low number of entrants more than anything else.

So, stats remain the same: 242 total entrants, 47 have entered 5 contests or more. 14 have not yet won  (30%).

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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2016, 09:24:40 PM »
How on earth did I not notice that I wrote my last reply into the quote from Raptori.  ::)
Fixed.
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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2016, 10:53:59 PM »
am i the only one that wants to formally designate time periods of the contest?

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ax ftw.  chop, chop.

also, i was browsing through those old contests.  man, they were crazy:
http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/january-2013-anthropomorphic-animals/january-2013-writing-contest/

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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2016, 11:52:34 PM »
Every single person who entered five contests or more before @xiagan took over won at least once.  :o Probably due to the low number of entrants more than anything else.

Yeah, that definitely made it easier to win before as many people were participating. Even I won once (and I suck  ;D )
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Re: Should a contest winner be ineligible to win the next contest(s)?
« Reply #59 on: September 22, 2016, 12:03:24 AM »
But wait... I won on my eighth (8th) entry. Am I reading this correctly? Probably not. A lot of those are lost on me, but :

am i the only one that wants to formally designate time periods of the contest?

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ax ftw.  chop, chop.

I'd like that as well. It'd also be interesting to get the stats of only times when the contest reached enough numbers to be closer to a competition. Like 9+ or 10+ stories, given that we had months with 19 stories, can we really take into account who won when there were 5 or 6 entries?
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