January 20, 2018, 11:09:50 AM

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Offline Skip

Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2565 on: January 12, 2018, 03:18:55 PM »

Good news for England. I am counting on America impeaching him before I have to protest a state visit.

He cancelled the trip because he didn't think he would be "made welcome".

Get used to that, asshole.

Yeah, well, he's not welcome here either, yet here he is. *grimace*
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2566 on: January 12, 2018, 04:12:51 PM »
Don Lemon on CNN. We need more of this. We should have been doing this since Trump started running, but at least, finally, it's being said on national television. Worth watching the whole clip.


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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2567 on: January 17, 2018, 07:59:36 AM »
So I'm sorry that I'm still riled up about this but I was on the phone with a friend that's volunteering with a campaign and one of the other people there she denigrated as a "bernie-bro" going on about how they're the reason the Dem's lost the election.

So let me please lay out some things here:

Basically during the last election Debbie Wasserman Schultz drove the DNC into the ground overpaying vendors and consultants that did nothing (errrr... corruption), leaving no money for states to support congressional elections costing the Dems not only the presidency but congress.

Here's Nomiki Konst on the Unity Reform Commission-- she's on the commission because of Bernie Sanders

DWS stepped down as Hillary was nominated and interim DNC Chair Donna Brazile inherited a giant mess.  Here's clips from her on the consultants problem

So basically Debbie intentionally drove the DNC into the ground, then the Clinton Campaign bailed them out, in exchange for complete control over the DNC during the primary (approving press releases, staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, mailings-- everything), with DSW staying in her post until Hillary got the nomination.  Interim DNC Chair Donna Brazile discovered all this when she took her position. Likely she only had the position because she herself had given the Clinton campaign the questions to the CNN town hall in advance--she denied this several times despite leaked emails and ultimately admitted it after she left the DNC. Anyway, apparently the joint fundraising agreement between the DNC and the Clinton campaign was too much for her so Brazile went to Sanders when she first found out about it, but they didn't go public with it because they were close to the election...but then wikileaks happened with the Russian hack of the DNC exposing the money laundering for a candidate who hadn't yet won the nomination. So Brazile ultimately verified it in the press. Here's some reporting on all of that if you're interested.


Okay given all this, how can moderate liberals sit there and say "Trump won the election because of Berniebros."  I like many of Clinton's policies.  I voted for her. But every time I hear a centrist say "berniebro" while completely ignoring all of this as if it's a-okay and there's nothing to be fixed it makes me think maybe I shouldn't bother voting next time either. Seriously. It makes me so upset. Go ahead. Keep saying berniebro, centrist liberals, until you have no damn party left.

Offline BeardKing

Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2568 on: January 18, 2018, 09:44:27 PM »
Government shutdown incoming.

I'm so exhausted and disgusted. I've had enough already. I want off this ride.