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Ok I will amend my statement to education being a vital component in the process and argue against your third statement as time allows.
With regard to Republicanism/Democracy they are in no way mutually exclusive and my thoughts were based on European examples from the 5th and 6th centuries BC. Nothing whatsoever to do with America in this case.

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Lot of wind but nothing dramatic

I am sure there are tablets for that!

Glad to read you made it through ok.

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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: October 15, 2018, 10:39:50 AM »
Without education how is an informed choice possible? Knowledge and understanding do not hinder the process and pretty much ensure people will have different opinions and ideologies.

Since when have democracy and republicanism been mutually exclusive? Democracy being a system created to ensure a few rich and powerful slave owning men to be equally unhappy with any political outcome. Needless to say it has moved on a little. Republicanism being the a system created to allow a few rich and powerful slave owning men to be equally unhappy with any political outcome, but without a monarch to take the fall for said outcome.

The definition of universal suffrage is here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_suffrage

Are you aware that from a European perspective there is no left in American politics and the people we are worried about have similar policies to your two main parties?

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Fantasy Book & Author Discussion / Re: What are you currently reading?
« on: October 14, 2018, 08:00:25 PM »
I thought the intro chapter was poor but the writing excellent in the first book.

Still reading Grey Bastards and finding it problematic....

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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:39:51 PM »
Democracy is vaunted as the best political system and we pretend to live in one. That said the first wold is significantly freer than the rest, has a greater number of people actively employed and with a beyond subsistence incomes along with social programs such as healthcare, education and infrastructure.

Democracy never meant universal suffrage until quite recently.

The right to vote should be protected even for those people who are not competent to do so. Eventually you get to a place where only the people who vote for you are the only ones allowed to vote.

Education is key but you cannot get those uninterested to comprehend or those with fundamentalist beliefs to accept.

Europe is largely safer than the UK or USA as coalitions are common and temper the worst of governmental policy. However the right is growing in popularity throughout Europe and Scandinavia. We easily see our own little Americas here.

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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: October 14, 2018, 02:45:34 PM »
I concur. The other thing that will happen from a worldwide petition is you will polarize Americans into defending the system that put him there from the outside world. May not supporting Trump will not tolerate outside interference.

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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: October 14, 2018, 12:37:55 AM »
Read this thread a page or two back....

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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: October 13, 2018, 10:00:59 PM »
Yeah the thought police are alive and well in the UK.

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Watching Norsemen on Netflix well worth a look

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We want you to be flexible so we don't have to!

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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: October 10, 2018, 01:27:48 PM »
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I hope we push violently back against Trump's horrific BS in November, but I suppose we'll see. However, the one thing I'll say if that if Trump and McConnell do win, it won't be because the *majority* sided with them. Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million. If evil wins, it'll be because they were really good at gaming a political system stacked toward white supremacy, and the majority of this country (non-voters) simply didn't see it coming.

And in a world where every post, tweet and mail can be read this one has probably moved you up the list. Your worry of a fascist state is sound but it's not the future, it is already here. Look up corporatism. At the moment it is concerned with capturing the wealth in the middle of your classless society and placing the tools to totally own all information within everyone's life.
In America corporations have shown economic power is also political power and people come a poor second. This didn't change under Obama and will not change under any future leader of any political shade. Success is measured in wealth and that buys power. Information is control and the number of 3 letter agencies and their powers are never going to recede, organisations to keep America safe, but define America?
sometime in Your future it Will take an interest in people and likelihood is you will be streamed by any number of data points and as pretty much any ad agency already does.
If you feel you need a plan B get it in place. Get the framework sorted. Have a destination and think ahead waiting for it to happen means its already too late as countless millions found out during the 19th and 20th century

With regards to the mid term I expect violence regardless of the result.

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Suspense Thriller from what I have seen and looks like a lot of fun to me.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6628394/videoplayer/vi2215033625?ref_=tt_ov_vi


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I think it's Up with the Finns on the madness scale....They're only tanks we ski at them!

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General Discussion / Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« on: October 05, 2018, 03:32:05 PM »
Musk is an entitled idiot and has an ongoing deformation lawsuit due to accusations he made on twitter. His handlers need to take control of his phone.

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some watery bint or would be king likely fumbled it.

I saw 12 strong last night I would be interested in your thoughts on the film @The Gem Cutter
It stuck me it followed pretty much what I had read and while some of it was dramatized it could have got the Hollywood treatment and ceased to resemble events.

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