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Re: 4-Word Reviews The glass books of the dream eaters
Non-heiress, assassin, doctor, together.


Duncton Chronicles
Moles on epic adventure.

March 11, 2015, 07:55:16 AM
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Re: 4-Word Reviews
Prometheus:

How is plot logical?

Or :
Why touch it, d**head?!
Run to the side
Srsly who cares anymore
Glad I pirated it
Prometheus, your trailer lied
White blorb wants hantai
Take in my tentacles
Why nothing makes sense
D**khead snake wants cuddles
Black goo spiced cocktail

March 16, 2015, 12:33:39 PM
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Re: Hello all!

And since you do it, there hasn't been a spam topic! Good work! ;D

And welcome, BBH (Bea's better half). ;) You're not the first couple we have over here. It's great when couples share a hobby. :)

He's actually mine, @xiagan :P But @ScarletBea already knew from our conversations  :)

Anyway, don't expect him to post much... But I'm glad I finally managed to convince him to make a profile of his own, instead of browsing the forums with my account  ;)

March 21, 2015, 12:04:49 AM
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Re: Highly Regarded Books that You Have Struggled Through
I've slogged through too many 'highly regarded' books by now that I don't see the point any more.  I'm just going to read things that work for me, no matter what others' say--unless I'm absolutely sure it's worth it, I'm not going to push through things I put down and don't want to pick up again (there's a difference between 'want to read' and 'want to have read'!).

I've been trying to adopt this attitude myself. I get that a lot of people love authors like Erikson and Bakker, but they just don't do it for me. I'm not a fan of the Grimdark movement in fantasy. I'll read it occasionally, but I'd rather read stuff I actually enjoy.

March 23, 2015, 12:54:34 AM
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Re: Goodreads Troll - Words of Radiance
My biggest problem was that she was constantly thinking "I'm so shy and timid" and stuff like that, when the entire time she was the polar opposite. I remember finding it really irritating that there wasn't a single moment where she was anything but bold, smart-mouthed, and independent right from the beginning even though that was clearly supposed to be her character arc (she starts the book joking with sailors while on a bold solo voyage to steal from a princess - doesn't sound like someone timid to me!). I prefer characters that grow but in her case it didn't feel like growth at all, more like the author trying to pull a fast one on the readers.
I'll admit, that's an interesting point. However, I'm wondering how much of that is actually simply because we spend most of our time seeing her from her own viewpoint rather than from someone elses. It's perfectly possible for someone to inwardly seem bold, smart-mouthed and independent, but on the outside be much more shy and timid (honestly, I'm kinda like that myself). And, considering most of these scenes are from Shallan's viewpoint, it's only natural that the former qualities shine through largely in the narration. However, paying attention to what she actually does, rather than merely thinks, does support the idea of her being fairly timid on the outside (aside from the occasional slip which is usually explained (such as her being used to the sailors) or lampshaded) and, at the very least, she's hesitant when she acts independently until her development in Book 2, which is less about her become more confident and more about her learning to express her inner confidence more.

Of course, by the time we actually do get someone else's perspective on her (in the latter half of Book 2), she's largely grown out of that so it's difficult to tell.

I will say though, she's definitely too confident in her Book 2 flashbacks. Speaking of, I'm not fond of the flashbacks in either books. (Which is ironic, considering I use lengthy flashbacks in my own book which usually turn out among my favourite bits.) I think the issue here is that we already know exactly where they're going long before they start and they really don't add much in the way of characterisation or development to our protagonists. At best they establish side characters, most of whom have yet to appear again (although that's almost certain to change in Book 3). That and they have far too much filler.
Yeah it's definitely possible, but what I remember is her actions being bold, smart-mouthed and independent, while inwardly she was all those things but constantly telling herself that she wasn't. Think that's why it rang false for me - I don't think anyone who is shy and introverted would have acted in the ways that she did, so the personality that came across from her thoughts and actions didn't mesh with what we were being told her personality was. Kinda like saying it's a boiling hot day, then showing characters shivering and putting on coats and woolly hats  :P

That's a good point too - considering how important the flashbacks are to the books, they're surprisingly uninteresting and don't usually add much other than explaining a few plot devices. When done right they can be great though, although I can't think of any books that do it well right now...!

I'd probably love Wit/Hoid too, but he feels like a poor man's Fool to me! Plus I rarely find any of Sanderson's witty characters' dialogue to be witty at all, which puts a bit of a damper on that... :D
Eh, different strokes I suppose. I'll admit, having a largely Butcherian style of humour, it took me a while to get used to Sanderson's style, but I still enjoyed it. Admittedly, he did go overboard at a few moments and some of the lines were a bit dodgy, but he made me laugh and endeared me to the jokers, so I guess it fulfilled its purpose..
Yeah probably. I do find Sanderson's jokes funny occasionally, but it falls flat when characters are meant to be intelligent and/or witty and they don't come across that way to me. Another example of that is the Ender saga, where all the geniuses supposed to save the world act like a bunch of idiots a lot of the time.  :D

March 24, 2015, 08:43:08 AM
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Re: Get those priorities right and show some respect....... I truly liked the way the Icelanders think and Jmacyk it would be glorious to see a story where big business construction had to literally have board meetings with the elves and goblins and anyone else caught up in development.  Just thinking of the devious hard nosed concessions that could be wrung out from the humans.  ;D

This subject has taken a welcome serious turn but I would never have titled it as I did except for the original link.  ;D
 
Retrospective censoring of any literature makes me see red and steam comes out of my ears. One of my rant subjects is criticism of past literature without taking into consideration or having some knowledge of the era in which it was written. Literature of all kinds is social history, it reflects exactly the attitudes and customs of the day, whether it concerns racism, religion sex etc and we should read it  in that light.  Also giving a thought to the different type of readers it was  aimed at, such as the author's peers, or to influence politics, or the so-called "working class" or Victorians sitting around while Papa read to the family and so on.

Of course Dickens is depressing, he was trying to draw attention to appalling conditions, disease, extreme poverty, huge social divide between wealthy and poor of Victorian England. No point trying to pretend life was good.

As for cutting the dirty bits out of Shakespeare it's not all easily recognised, but the raucous crowds in the Globe Theatre loved and enjoyed all those double meanings, it helped those with pretty hard lives have some fun and the more we know the better we can appreciate his brilliance with words.  I had a Jewish friend who would not read Shakespeare because he had been highly offended by the portrayal of Shylock and I could understand why, but that was exactly how the Jews were perceived and treated then.

Agatha Christie, from 20thC, has several racist stereotypes which have not been changed, although the  title of one novel,  "Then There Were One", is not as I first knew it.

Modern day censoring of previous racial content seems to come from guilt, but  that is exactly how white people spoke and acted towards all people of colour not just black people. Orientals had a hard time of it as well.  We should be able to read and feel disgust but not try to pretend it didn't happen rather face it.  This type of censoring is a covert way of re-writing history and it seriously bothers me.


March 26, 2015, 02:54:36 AM
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Re: Tamora pierce
@Lejays17 is another one who really likes her books and has read a fair few of them if not everything.

Pretty much go along with Xiagan's post in terms of reading order.

That being said, I preferred the Emelan (Circle) books to the Tortall (Alanna) books, even though I did start with the Alanna's first of all.  I preferred the Immortals series (Daine) to the others in Tortall, I'm not sure if I've actually finished Keladry's series - I have them all, but I don't rememner anything at all about the last one, so I suspect I've never read it.

March 26, 2015, 06:48:43 AM
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Re: The King's Paws
Back on my corner, trying to relax.
This week I worked a full 1.5 days more than the expected/paid hours - my brain is now mush :-\
You guys are what keeps me sane :D
Yes this ^

When my daughter lived at home, we could chat fantasy novels all day.
My lovely wife can listen to only so much.  :)
You poor folks are stuck with me.  ;)

March 27, 2015, 07:08:58 PM
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Re: What are you currently reading?
How many of us are reading or have just finished The Copper Promise? If I count myself I think there's 4 of us at present: me, @Jmacyk, @xiagan and @Lady Ty. Is that some sort of a record for something that isn't a book club read?
It's the Copper Promise movement, and it's sweeping the nation, er, forum.  ;D

Do I eventually get my own army? That would be sweet ...
What, you don't already have one in a hidden citadel somewhere, Jen? I thought The Copper Promise was an autobiography.

With me as the All Powerful Dragon God of Destruction? Actually, that sounds pretty good...

*considers rewriting the books from the POV of Y'Ruen*

March 30, 2015, 09:50:55 AM
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Re: [Mar 2015] - Rogues - Voting Thread Finally read them all and made my 4 votes. I won't say for which, but I'd like to add a positive comment about each story for the authors as I know how rare it is to get feedback in general, let alone nice stuff. Hopefully it won't end up being longer than the stories themselves!

Spoiler for Hiden:
@Jmacyk - This made me smile so much. I thought it was a really fun escapist story with outrageous yet oh so appealling characters. The very idea of a playboy scamp besmirching a bunch of women who then gang up to get revenge on him through a séance just amuses me to no end. I think the larger than life characters really reflect well on the person I imagine is sitting behind the keyboard when I read your posts.

@SJ Budd - This story had a great twist. I've always been a fan of gals getting one up on guys and this was as good as it gets. Scarlett had a really great personality too--confident but with a heart. Really well done.

@Raptori - This one scores the prize for giving me the biggest grin. I'll admit I suspected halfway through that the kid wasn't a human, but the revelation of it being a goat still caught me completely by surprise. I dunno why, but something really tickles me when I imagine a veteran rogue justifying his career choice to an animal for self esteem.

@Giddler - This was a well paced piece with a really nice narrative between Stubb and Bligh. There's always something appealing about the innocent rookie coming in and questioning the morals behind what a vet takes for granted, and Stubb was about as lovable as they come. The interactions between the pair made me smirk pretty much every time.

@Doctor Chill - If I had to sum up a story in one word I think this one would be brave. By the end I was sitting back thinking deeply, which is only ever a good thing in writing. You got across the moral point of what is a serious modern day issue of a kid who carries a knife without ever thinking of the consequences of using it. I thought the end scene was really, really well done. It caught me by surprise, and gave a good dose of reality when it's often too easy to take killing lightly as just a plot point to move a story on.

@TOMunro - I felt the characters here were well developed and delivered nicely in a subtle manner. It's hard to give feedback for full novel characters in short stories, but for Kaylan at least, I got a good feel for a man who seems comfortable with the monster he knows himself to be, but at the same time has that internal struggle for what he knows is right when he sees someone he respects as a good person suffering at the wicked hand of another. You get bonus points for the blood eagle, though I don't think the Vikings ever actually did that :p. Not while the person was still alive at least. Nobody would want to be friends with anyone who could actually pull that off!

@Nora - The atmosphere of this world just blew me away. In fact I'm rather envious of how anybody can stuff so much world detail so naturally into a short story. I got a really vivid image of this ruined city, it's derelict Plant, and those botanical sanctuaries where the survivors of a cataclysm are holding out in. The moral struggle of the protagonist at the end was just icing on the cake to what was a grand piece.

@RussetDivinity - In answer to your concern, I thought this was as roguish as any other and quite beautiful to boot. You really got across Mina's love for Tristan battling against her subconscious knowing that something wasn't quite right. Then when the ruse is exposed the final bond of trust is formed which allows her to find true happiness with the person rather than the body they exist in. I found this to be a rather touching tale of what love is and should be.

@wakarimasen – This was a really interesting world. The idea of forced aging as a form of punishment rather intrigues me. You really delivered on the protagonist's personality of a jaded youth who's come to realise and despise how people look upon him when his 'beauty' has faded. The mushroom tower metaphor was also fantastically done to describe setting while also revealing the character's feelings for the world around him.

@Elfy - The character descriptions in this piece were just so great--especially the horse. I could really picture this noble, his wife, and daughter all sitting together in that carriage. Liam was a likable ruffian in every way, and the very idea of a leprecaun highwayman... how can anybody not grin at that! This was a delight to read.

@Mikaela A. Ingram - This was a really sweet story. When so often boy + girl = love interest, it's refreshing to see a brother sister bond instead. You had a great dynamic between Ashe and Sonata. They truly felt like a team on the same page playing up to each other's strengths and weaknesses. Brother had sister's back, yet she still came across as the one in power calling the shots. I liked this a lot.

@TravisGGAnderson – The opening paragraph in this story was simply amazing! It did a great job at setting the tone of the scenes to come. I loved how dwarfish the dialect felt, and you struck a really nice balance between speech and action. Both scene and characters felt truly alive as they chatted away while playing cards.

@Rukaio Alter – This was a really well structured story built around those seven tenets. I suspected early on that there would be betrayal, but I found it particularly well done the way both rogues ended up double-crossing each other. This was as solid and enjoyable short story as you can get, and one I think would make a fine addition to pretty much any media that runs fantasy tales.

@Carter – Sometimes you read a sentence that just sticks out and stays with you. “Curiosity and annoyance scratched at him with questioning claws” was that sentence for me. I thought that was such a great line to sum up Matthao's internal mindset at that point in the story. Overall I found this an intriguing piece, and couldn't help but feel a tad disappointed I didn't get to know more of what had gone on in the brothers' past.

@ArcaneArtsVelho – I was really impressed with the amount of characters in this one. Short stories this length don't favour high character counts, but you managed to stuff at least six in all of which had unique personalities and relevant parts to play in the tale. There was a nice amount of 'will they, won't they' when the wife learnt of the crime... and, crude as it may be, I couldn't help but chuckle at “You put your pick into every lock you see.” That was quite a clever line considering the topic of the tale.

@C R Alexander – I liked how developed every character in this story felt. It seemed each had their own motivations and goals that were unique to themselves. I thought there was a fine rapport between the three bandits in the final scene which gave me a real sense of a greater plot going on in the background.

April 09, 2015, 12:18:55 AM
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