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Title: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: Bradley Darewood on January 12, 2018, 11:33:30 PM
I feel like writing poetry, even bad poetry (especially bad poetry), is practical practice for making musical your prose, capturing lyrical rhythms to unleash later in your not-yet-finished narrative masterpieces. 

Plus it's just fun.

Anyone want to join me and periodically post their prose-poetry here? I know you want to @Jmack and @The Gem Cutter !
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 13, 2018, 04:20:45 AM
I feel your summons call me,
I hear your challenge clear,
I feel my interest pull me,
To what I hold most dear.

And though my path behind me lays,
A track my feet wore through,
Before me stranger pathways lead,
To where the words ring true.

Forgotten now the lessons learned,
Abandoned all the drear,
A dance across the letters turns,
To where all things are clear.

And though my time is wasted here - no poet's skills have I -
And though I hear the snickers near, I'm better off to try,
To string the thoughts and sights I've seen (and even some I've not),
Into rhymes in awkward schemes ('cause doggerel's all I've got),

So I'll read yours if you'll read mine,
Perhaps we'll have some smiles,
And in between haphazard lines,
Forget the weary miles.
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 13, 2018, 04:39:22 AM
The Green Man

I spy a man with dirt on his hands, an ear for the winds and an eye for the lands.

I spy a man who loves what is green, who walks in the woods and sees the unseen.

I spy a man who gathers the seeds, who knows how to plant them and what they need.

I spy a man with mud on his boots, who reads the green leaves, the stalks, and the shoots.

I spy a man who knows all the seasons, who sees when things prosper and knows all the reasons.

I spy a man much wiser than I, who plants where he can - and where he can’t, passes by.
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: Bradley Darewood on January 13, 2018, 07:10:55 AM

And though my time is wasted here - no poet's skills have I -
And though I hear the snickers near, I'm better off to try,
To string the thoughts and sights I've seen (and even some I've not),
Into rhymes in awkward schemes ('cause doggerel's all I've got),

So I'll read yours if you'll read mine,
Perhaps we'll have some smiles,
And in between haphazard lines,
Forget the weary miles.

I see you caught the cues I put in the primary post.  But your rhythmic reply certainly surpassed any alliteration I could ever conjure.  Oh shit, it seems I might be stuck speaking in this style. 

But seriously, that was brilliant!!! and oh, I think you've got some poet's skills buddy!

Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: Bradley Darewood on January 13, 2018, 07:12:26 AM
Quiet
Demure
but just when everyone is watching
Everyone is always watching
Mother, father, husband, son
Her hand trembles when she slices carrots
Employer, cop, neighbor
Do they know her secret?
Cameras are everywhere
but most of all
inside her mind
She is bursting at the seams
with a silent rage she can’t contain
Quiet
Demure
There is murder in her heart, and it won’t go away
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 13, 2018, 09:32:28 AM
Quiet
Demure
but just when everyone is watching
Everyone is always watching
Mother, father, husband, son
Her hand trembles when she slices carrots
Employer, cop, neighbor
Do they know her secret?
Cameras are everywhere
but most of all
inside her mind
She is bursting at the seams
with a silent rage she can’t contain
Quiet
Demure
There is murder in her heart, and it won’t go away

Darker and edgier than I can manage, almost a little threatening. I don't want to be in her kitchen.
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: Jmack on January 13, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
@Bradley Darewood and @The Gem Cutter:

I’m all in. And as much as I love SFF (or should it be FSF), I love words and our community interactions more.

Scott: I’m in awe. As usual I will be reading your poems aloud to others and bragging that I know you.
Bradley: Loved the prose poem. Talk about capturing a character and a conflict in a few words!

So, now I have to join in. Tomorrow or tonight  :)
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: ScarletBea on January 13, 2018, 04:47:36 PM
I'm loving these too!
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 13, 2018, 08:38:01 PM
This is fun, and I look forward to more postings. Bradley's poem is so distinct from my perspective, it lies in a blind spot where I can't look (bonus points for a Dune ref in a poetry discussion), and reminds me of coffee - bitter and off-putting at the initial taste in childhood. I've read it several / many times and it's got a level of chilling for me that the words themselves don't add up to. I rely on / exploit the flavor of the words, where he is leveraging dissonance in setting and other elements outside my reach. Well done @Bradley Darewood
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: Jmack on January 13, 2018, 11:40:40 PM
I dip my figurative pen
Deep
Into the well
Of nothing to say

Or, words,
But only about myself
Negative space
On white

Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 14, 2018, 12:22:30 AM
I feel their eyes upon me,
Taste their judgment harsh and clear,
See the gap between myself,
And what’s expected here.

In cold objective measure,
I concede their views are sound,
By the laws that rule this place,
I’ve failed in ways profound.

Cut off from those around me,
Who will never know my paths,
And can never measure me,
By lessons from my past,

They only see my outline,
If they do see me at all,
They see only what I lack,
The scars but not the falls.
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: Lady Ty on January 14, 2018, 05:56:28 AM
Why didn’t you think of this sooner ? Go you, Bradley 😊 top idea.
Why not ask a mod to make it into its own part of FF Writers Section, like Writers’Corner ? Call it Poets’ Corner? Perhaps not as they are buried there. Live Poets’ Society?
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 14, 2018, 06:56:28 AM
That was my attempt to be edgy and cool like Bradley  :-[  I feel more comfortable with positive motifs
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 14, 2018, 09:11:13 AM
I dip my figurative pen
Deep
Into the well
Of nothing to say

Or, words,
But only about myself
Negative space
On white
I'm prone to be unclever given half a chance, and I've read this so many times, and the second stanza is throwing me. Help me understand what you're alluding to - the "Or" at the beginning is confusing me. This is not the poem's fault - I take things literally most of the time, and I know I'm missing the forest due to trees here. Is it "Or (I am dipping into) words, but only (words) about myself"? And the negative space - negative as in photographic or emotional? Or deliberate ambiguity? I know this paints me foolish to ask, but I am genuinely interested to know how to interpret this.
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: ScarletBea on January 14, 2018, 11:41:29 AM
Not sure if it's proper, but the way I interpret that is that Jmack is in a 'bad place' regarding writing. He thinks of words but they're not stories, they're only about his situation, trying to make sense of where he is now.

Or maybe this is just my projection of the little I know on him about these past couple of months...
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: Jmack on January 14, 2018, 12:21:14 PM
@ScarletBea: there’s two parts of truth in what you say. I have been in a more stressed and negative space the last while than I want to be. Regarding writing, poetry is, for me, a very different mode than fiction. I can approach my story writing with confidence and joy, when I’m not frustrated about the lack of time I have/make for it. Poetry brings out this self-absorbed, morose me that I dislike.

Which, @The Gem Cutter, moves toward the mood and notions underlying my poem. I remember in college acting class how we had to break into small groups and develop dramatic scenes to improvisation for the class. Invariably one group (at least once, mine) would do a dramatic scene about students unable to develop a dramatic scene.

When I write, it often rises from a single phrase or sentence, and I follow it to see where it leads. In this case, my poem led me to write about having nothing of any real consequence to day except for self-referential and self-pitying clap-trap.

Ironically, I like the poem.

Meanwhile, TGC, you have the right parsing of the second stanza. There is for me, also, a weight to the idea of drawing water/energy/meaning/creativity from a well. To draw up only words is to have only words and not the richness of them. Not their mission or their impact.

As far as the negative space on white, the image in my mind was of the paper being real (or the iPad screen) while the letters/words are subtractions. Not raised on the paper, but subtracted from it. I like the image though because it allows the reader her own space for understanding. Your connection to photographic negatives is lovely and unintentional on the part of the poet.

The word “deep” is not ringing true. The idea of scraping a brush against dried out paint is closer to what I was reaching for.

OMG, this is getting long.

But I want to say how much I admire Scott’s approach to poetry. I’m going to play with other paths as well as what comes most easily.

Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: Jmack on January 14, 2018, 12:50:10 PM
Another poem:

The unexamined life is mostly what I've got
So fuck you Socrates
Tell it to a sperm whale
Tell it to my feet walking
To Schroedinger’s Cat
To the dust of a distant disaster
that lights this sunrise

I need a different word than “lights”. The illogic of it interferes with the image. Hmm. But then, maybe that’s part of the point....
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 14, 2018, 03:55:38 PM
Thank you for your kind words, it is truly wonderful for you to say.

Thank you for walking me through things, and for my part, there's no explanation too long, esp. when the topic is so complex.

I rather agree with you that "light" is both problematic and yet, ironically, appropriate and triply meaningful.  it brings actual light and or meaning; it has the connotation of setting on fire; combined with disaster it implies nuclear/fiery events. I could go on - but I think that's good load-bearing for a 5 letter, single syllable word :)
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: Bradley Darewood on January 15, 2018, 04:02:21 AM
Invariably one group (at least once, mine) would do a dramatic scene about students unable to develop a dramatic scene.

Haha that's totally how I interpreted it @Jmack . I thought it was a really clever poem about writer's block-- and since such excellent writing couldn't possibly be the product of writer's block that made it extra clever. :) And that introspective/dissatisfied second stanza was a nice way to close!

I need a different word than “lights”. The illogic of it interferes with the image. Hmm. But then, maybe that’s part of the point....

I'd say "capturing the rays of this sunrise" "glistening in the rays of" or "lighting the rays of" since dust does that really well.  I know because I've been modding skyrim and its all about the dust mods to create volumetric god-rays.  Actually "sparking" gives a nice alliteration.

Another poem:

The unexamined life is mostly what I've got
So fuck you Socrates
Tell it to a sperm whale
Tell it to my feet walking
To Schroedinger’s Cat
To the dust of a distant disaster
sparkling in the rays of this my sunrise

Anyway speaking of telling Socrates off, I have sort of a poem to respond to your poem with-- I wrote it in back graduate school tho.

Lies we tell

Word your argument, scholar.
Take the truth and cut it
dismember it
piece by piece
disfigured
distilled
it's eyes and fingers
liquefied in your cauldron
the stench of its melting flesh on your nose
–a good scholar does not balk–
to fit into your academic mold
a monstrosity we've sewn together
an arm, a leg
a patch of hair
pieces of the truth
a grotesque concubine of the philosophers of old
old white men inhabiting bodies that aren't theirs
so that their lies may live forever.
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: Bradley Darewood on January 15, 2018, 04:11:38 AM
Doublepost!

Why didn’t you think of this sooner ? Go you, Bradley 😊 top idea.
Why not ask a mod to make it into its own part of FF Writers Section, like Writers’Corner ? Call it Poets’ Corner? Perhaps not as they are buried there. Live Poets’ Society?

Haha, I love this--  though I'm guessing they might want to see if there's enough interest/longevity before making the thread special. We might have a better chance of getting it as a sticky thread...

But we do need to change the name of the thread, don't we?

I love "Live Poets Society"
Or we could do "Not-Dead (Undead?) Poets Society"  actually, being fantasy faction, "Undead Poets Society" could really work.

Or maybe we could bring our bongos and turtlenecks and meet to do beat poetry across from mugs of mead at the "King's Paws Poets Society"
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: Lady Ty on January 15, 2018, 10:09:03 AM
Woooow, ' Lies we tell'  hit me hard and had me saying yes, so very yes. 
Was able to substitute several times over for scholar and academic and it is still relevant and sadly still rings true. Thanks Bradley.
 
 But to brighter times- you do deserve a less pedestrian header for the thread and like Undead Poets *Society, but it is for the poets to decide.

*originally came out as Zociety, is that an omen?
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 15, 2018, 05:06:22 PM
Am I being the party-pooper if I suggest we think of fantasy-derived titles?

There's a whole bunch of fun ideas relating to bards and such - and Bradley aren't you into that sort of thing in your WIP?
Title: Re: Poems and Prose-Poetry here!
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 15, 2018, 06:30:30 PM
This is a longish one, and it's not even close to being finished. I am curious if it is rhythmically followable and at all entertaining.

The Summer Wizards have me, I’m trapped in this high place,
All my friends are lost to me, they lie in death’s embrace.
The ancient bridge so high and wide, the town of Ryn below,
Shadowed by the citadel, that looms like threatened blow.
Five deadly Apex Wizards, now bar me from escape,
I can neither flee nor hide, this fate I can’t evade.

My shock shortlived to see him, the false friend now revealed,
Whose bitter mocking laughter, now proves my fate is sealed.
Rachtus greater power wields, we both know that is true.
Influence - my weaker craft, its merits all unproved,
Naught to Rachtus or his ilk, Empowered wizards all,
Whose sorcerous defenses, negate what I can call.

Neither shield nor wards have I, an Influential weak,
But mine’s the greater anger, my spells I needn’t speak.
“Yield,” the bastard Rachtus says, as if I might forget,
The ashes of his victims, and pain of my regret.

My sisters and my brothers, become now fearsome foes,
Kindle wards of ghostly light, to shield them from my blows.
Around me ring the killers, likes wolves around the stag.
Strong the gusting high winds blow, that whip our capes like flags.

I feel it then the tingling, the thrill of choking fear,
But glittering in answer, the lesson learned most dear,
The southern savage told me, the day he showed my worth,
One day that it would serve me, to know that on the earth,
A harder heart has no one, than mine within my breast,
Strong enough to drive myself, beyond the drowning test.
Power is a handy thing, and wisdom is a boon,
But nothing more than trifles, when facing certain doom.