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Offline isos81

Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3495 on: March 02, 2020, 06:23:21 AM »
The past week was very sad as over 30 Turkish soldiers were killed in Syria, allegedly by Russia. It's sad that politicians say a word over everything but only poor families's kids die.

I watched funerals of some of the martyrs and all of them were poor. Anyways, it was a sad week...
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3496 on: March 02, 2020, 05:19:18 PM »
This is quite a controversial subject, so I will try to be as delicate as possible.

My opinion of President Erdogan and many of his policies is not a favourable one, but the Syrian government and its allies, according to all the statistics I've seen is responsible for more casualties in the civil war than any other faction by a long way. The deal between Turkey and Russia to de-escalate the conflict in Idlib would have ended the war, but unfortunately the Russians seem to be taking it about as seriously as they did the negotiations during the siege of Aleppo.

So in spite of Erdogan's numerous questionable policies, I have to sympathise with his actions in Syria. If the government retakes Idlib province they will cause a humanitarian catastrophe. If the Turkish government forces the Syrian and Russian governments to agree to a deal and stick by it then the war will finally end. Someone had to stand up to Putin, and while it should have been someone with a better human rights record, I'm glad someone finally has.

Offline Eli_Freysson

Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3497 on: March 25, 2020, 09:51:29 PM »
Today I saw that, according to a recent opinion poll, just barely under half of Americans approve of Trump's job performance.

You know... this man profoundly offends me on more than a moral level. A part of my autism is to desperately desire logic in the world. Everything about this man actively defies all reason. Half of a 300 million people country looks to this blabbering, cruel, petty, ignorant, half-senile, pathetically insecure, weak, lazy, incompetent, immature, sociopathic, racist sex offender and decide he's their guy. In spite of him breaking the fundamental norms of civilised society every damn day, violating taboos, undermining law and order, undermining stability in the world, kissing the feet of dictators while insulting democratic leaders, failing at his job at every turn, making ridiculous boasts like a three-year old, blathering conspiracy theories and spreading actively harmful misinformation and we all know I could go on.

Trump has no qualities whatsoever. He is an astonishing tapestry of seemingly every human flaw in existence. He is profoundly weak, stupid and utterly useless. Yet logic stubbornly refuses to stick to him. Time and again this man should have gone down in flames and been carried out on the White House on a rail and ejected from human society.

But no.

It utterly infuriates me and I have an awful feeling that he might win the reelection. I really should stop following foreign news, but I have been waiting to see this vile glob of pus get his comeuppance. But nothing ever goes wrong for him, even as he does everything wrong.
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3498 on: March 25, 2020, 11:32:09 PM »
Today I saw that, according to a recent opinion poll, just barely under half of Americans approve of Trump's job performance.

You know... this man profoundly offends me on more than a moral level. A part of my autism is to desperately desire logic in the world. Everything about this man actively defies all reason. Half of a 300 million people country looks to this blabbering, cruel, petty, ignorant, half-senile, pathetically insecure, weak, lazy, incompetent, immature, sociopathic, racist sex offender and decide he's their guy. In spite of him breaking the fundamental norms of civilised society every damn day, violating taboos, undermining law and order, undermining stability in the world, kissing the feet of dictators while insulting democratic leaders, failing at his job at every turn, making ridiculous boasts like a three-year old, blathering conspiracy theories and spreading actively harmful misinformation and we all know I could go on.

Trump has no qualities whatsoever. He is an astonishing tapestry of seemingly every human flaw in existence. He is profoundly weak, stupid and utterly useless. Yet logic stubbornly refuses to stick to him. Time and again this man should have gone down in flames and been carried out on the White House on a rail and ejected from human society.

But no.

It utterly infuriates me and I have an awful feeling that he might win the reelection. I really should stop following foreign news, but I have been waiting to see this vile glob of pus get his comeuppance. But nothing ever goes wrong for him, even as he does everything wrong.

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Offline Rostum

Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3499 on: March 26, 2020, 01:22:50 AM »
Assuming there are elections I think it quite likely that Trump will win. While I agree entirely with your assessment the Republicans, Democrats and the whole of America seem to have forgotten what they are supposed to stand for so anything may happen.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3500 on: March 26, 2020, 09:24:47 AM »
I don't believe he will be alive for the reelections...

(And WTF? Why Biden and not Sanders? Apart from his politics, which are over 50% GOP view points, his speech is already deteriorating...)

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3501 on: March 26, 2020, 03:26:34 PM »
I cannot imagine how someone in these times could think this would aid their ideology. Sadly if this was going to happen my first guess would be in the USA.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3502 on: March 26, 2020, 05:45:45 PM »
Heard the US Senate goes on a month long holiday. Great timing, guys!
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3503 on: March 26, 2020, 08:56:51 PM »

(And WTF? Why Biden and not Sanders? Apart from his politics, which are over 50% GOP view points, his speech is already deteriorating...)


Trump won then because more a huge chunk of Sanders voters in the swing states voted for Trump because they refuse to vote Hillary.

Trump will win now because more a huge chunk of Sanders voters in the swing states will vote for Trump because they refuse to vote Biden.
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3504 on: March 26, 2020, 09:38:56 PM »

(And WTF? Why Biden and not Sanders? Apart from his politics, which are over 50% GOP view points, his speech is already deteriorating...)


Trump won then because more a huge chunk of Sanders voters in the swing states voted for Trump because they refuse to vote Hillary.

Trump will win now because more a huge chunk of Sanders voters in the swing states will vote for Trump because they refuse to vote Biden.

Not quite with you all on this. Bernie would be pilloried as a socialist, and Trump would win.
Biden has a shot at least, though I’m quite worried.
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3505 on: March 27, 2020, 03:39:01 AM »

(And WTF? Why Biden and not Sanders? Apart from his politics, which are over 50% GOP view points, his speech is already deteriorating...)


Trump won then because more a huge chunk of Sanders voters in the swing states voted for Trump because they refuse to vote Hillary.

Trump will win now because more a huge chunk of Sanders voters in the swing states will vote for Trump because they refuse to vote Biden.

Not quite with you all on this. Bernie would be pilloried as a socialist, and Trump would win.
Biden has a shot at least, though I’m quite worried.

Try explaining that to Sanders fan club. Most are Vote Trump if not Sanders club in truth. They refuse to vote Biden (and Hillary) and would rather see Trump in power.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sanders-voters-helped-trump-win-white-house-could-they-do-n1145306

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Offline Rostum

Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3506 on: March 28, 2020, 01:13:19 AM »
Trump has signed the biggest bailout ever into law, but I am still trying to work out whether the cruise liner companies are getting money or not. This interested me as their ships tend to be registered abroad to avoid paying tax in the USA and to allow the employ of foriegn workers (mostly fillipino) at below minimum wage. If they are getting tax dollars without paying them in something is seriously broken.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3507 on: March 28, 2020, 12:59:18 PM »
Trump has signed the biggest bailout ever into law, but I am still trying to work out whether the cruise liner companies are getting money or not. This interested me as their ships tend to be registered abroad to avoid paying tax in the USA and to allow the employ of foriegn workers (mostly fillipino) at below minimum wage. If they are getting tax dollars without paying them in something is seriously broken.
Nope, they don't get a dime.

Meanwhile Trump says he'll only help the states whose governors praise him... "Make only those parts of America great whose leaders are in my cult or are bootlickers."
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Offline Eli_Freysson

Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3508 on: March 28, 2020, 01:49:47 PM »
Meanwhile Trump says he'll only help the states whose governors praise him... "Make only those parts of America great whose leaders are in my cult or are bootlickers."

Out of disgusted curiosity: How exactly did he phrase this?
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3509 on: March 28, 2020, 08:32:46 PM »
Meanwhile Trump says he'll only help the states whose governors praise him... "Make only those parts of America great whose leaders are in my cult or are bootlickers."

Out of disgusted curiosity: How exactly did he phrase this?
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