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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #375 on: February 18, 2016, 03:20:39 PM »
Mr. Burns? Trump? Are they the same guy?

Literally Just 21 Mr Burns Quotes On Pictures Of Donald Trump
http://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/woah-woah-theres-a-new-mexico?utm_term=.wnWBV59ez#.ppZn197NA
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #376 on: February 18, 2016, 05:56:41 PM »
Mr. Burns? Trump? Are they the same guy?

Literally Just 21 Mr Burns Quotes On Pictures Of Donald Trump
http://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/woah-woah-theres-a-new-mexico?utm_term=.wnWBV59ez#.ppZn197NA

fits him like a speedo, that does.

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Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #377 on: February 18, 2016, 06:06:34 PM »
I'm sure the other way round exists too. No idea what is more funny/scary...
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #378 on: February 22, 2016, 12:46:07 AM »
Well, Trump won South Carolina.



Thanks, South Carolina.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #380 on: February 22, 2016, 01:14:25 AM »
WTF America

http://www.finaid.org/loans/studentloandebtclock.phtml

Is this for real?

It's potentially the source for the next financial collapse.
It's also the result of well-intentioned policies not well thought out.
Make it free or make it cost. But don't make it both, if you get what I mean.
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #381 on: February 22, 2016, 03:49:09 AM »
Getting my daughter ready for bed tonight:

Wife: Say Democrat
Daughter: Democrat (says it very cute)
Wife: Say liberal
Daughter: Libal
Me: Say Republican
Daughter: No!
Me: Say conservative
Daughter: No! (starts laughing)

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #382 on: February 22, 2016, 05:07:41 AM »
Getting my daughter ready for bed tonight:

Wife: Say Democrat
Daughter: Democrat (says it very cute)
Wife: Say liberal
Daughter: Libal
Me: Say Republican
Daughter: No!
Me: Say conservative
Daughter: No! (starts laughing)
What I get from that, Hedin is that the words democrat and liberal are easier for a young child to say than the words republican and conservative are.
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #383 on: February 22, 2016, 10:51:46 AM »
The moment a 106-old african-american steps into the White House to greet the President. This video is a joy to watch  :)

http://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2016/feb/22/obamas-dance-with-energetic-106-year-old-guest-at-white-house-video
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #384 on: February 22, 2016, 01:03:38 PM »
Getting my daughter ready for bed tonight:

Wife: Say Democrat
Daughter: Democrat (says it very cute)
Wife: Say liberal
Daughter: Libal
Me: Say Republican
Daughter: No!
Me: Say conservative
Daughter: No! (starts laughing)
What I get from that, Hedin is that the words democrat and liberal are easier for a young child to say than the words republican and conservative are.

Actually its more like I'll do whatever mom asks me to do but not dad.  I feel like I should change my name to No Daddy most of the time.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #385 on: February 22, 2016, 03:15:36 PM »
Here's the latest from the Republication frontrunner.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/trump-hails-torture-mass-killings-pigs-blood-ammo-sc

Some highlights from Mr. Trump's recent speech:

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The standout topic, however, was terrorism and national security. Trump repeated – favorably – an apparent myth about how General John Pershing summarily executed dozens of Muslim prisoners in the Philippines with tainted ammunition during a guerilla war against the occupying United States.

“He took fifty bullets, and he dipped them in pig’s blood,” Trump said. “And he had his men load his rifles and he lined up the fifty people, and they shot 49 of those people. And the fiftieth person he said ‘You go back to your people and you tell them what happened.’ And for 25 years there wasn’t a problem, okay?”

The story appears to be a hoax spread via e-mail forwards, according to rumor tracker Snopes.com, with no evidence it occurred.

The moral of the tale, according to Trump: “We better start getting tough and we better start getting vigilant, and we better start using our heads or we’re not gonna have a country, folks.”

You can find that at 7:51 on the linked recording.

Also, here he is on waterboarding!

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Trump was unimpressed with waterboarding, a banned interrogation tactic that he has pledged to bring back against suspected terrorists, and supplement with far worse forms of abuse.

“Is it torture or not? It’s so borderline,” he said. “It’s like minimal, minimal, minimal torture.”

In a previous speech, Trump called his opponent Senator Ted Cruz, whose father was tortured as a young man in Cuba, a “pu**y” for not sharing his zeal for the practice.

You can find that lovely nugget at 6:16 on the linked recording.

And here's a lovely quote from one of the many people Trump has frightened into bonkers land:

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Trump supporter Eleanor Crume, 72, told MSNBC afterwards that she agreed with Trump’s stance on waterboarding because terrorists should not be “pampered.”

“We need someone who can lead the country because people are scared to death,” she said. “It’s only a matter of time before terrorists come and start chopping Christian heads off in the United States.”

Also, for anyone who thinks the media is "misquoting" Trump, here's a direct recording of his recent rally with the lines in question.

https://soundcloud.com/gawker/trump-at-january-19-charleston-rally
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #386 on: February 22, 2016, 04:21:45 PM »
I really don't know how I feel about torture.
On one hand, I think it's a good idea. Since the prisoners know it won't stop unless they give the correct answer, and will be punished for the wrong ones, it's effective. We would've never found a lot of the terrorists we have without it. Yes, Obama tried stopping it in 2009, but officially, the CIA was able to act on a lot of information gained from it.
On the other hand, it scares the hell out of me. I don't trust the government of course. I find it hard to believe that we killed Bin Ladin, or however you spell his name. In fact, I have trouble believing 9/11 was even a terrorist plot. So the fact that they could turn on us, label anyone as a terrorist, and torture the hell out of us frightens me.
I know this shouldn't be my logic. "Everyone has rights. Humans shouldn't be doing this and that to each other." Okay sure. But it's happening. Us stopping torture doesn't prevent the terrorists from torturing us. "But we should be better. We have the moral high ground." Do we? Really? No. That's just wishful thinking. We do terrible things too. Everybody does. It just depends on what you consider is worse. Am I condoning the actions of terrorists? No. What they've done is wrong and disgusting. But we're not excluded from that.
So I just sit back and watch the people and see what happens.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #387 on: February 22, 2016, 04:26:28 PM »
WTF America

http://www.finaid.org/loans/studentloandebtclock.phtml

Is this for real?

Yes. Expenses for one year of college can cost about the same as many luxury cars. $40K-$50K is not unusual for private college and I know the public ones by me have gotten extremely competitive and are above the average in state tuition of closer to $25K/year. (note these estimates are total cost, so include tuition, fees, room and board, etc)

So, that is per year, so imagine the average family trying to find a way to pay for 4 years of that. Per kid. It's one of the reasons I did solid research on job feasibility for potential majors (only including ones I thought I would enjoy) before I picked one. It made paying off my loans a heck of a lot easier if I was able to actually use my degree to get a job, which is not the case for many majors.
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #388 on: February 22, 2016, 04:28:04 PM »
On one hand, I think it's a good idea. Since the prisoners know it won't stop unless they give the correct answer, and will be punished for the wrong ones, it's effective.
Do you not see the issue with that? If you don't stop hurting someone until they tell you what you want to hear, then they will eventually tell you what you want to hear. Even if it is not true. How can anyone claim that's an effective intelligence-gathering strategy?
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #389 on: February 22, 2016, 04:28:35 PM »
I really don't know how I feel about torture.
On one hand, I think it's a good idea.
I have trouble believing 9/11 was even a terrorist plot.
???

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