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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2595 on: February 27, 2018, 06:07:40 PM »
BTW, here's how to counter the insipid deflection "but an AR-15 isn't an assault rifle!" that gun enthusiasts are so fond of throwing at you, from @TheAuthorGuy (Christopher Moore).

As he says, this isn't the end all/be all of massacre prevention, but it's a place to start.

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My non-gun savy friends. You want "A ban on all center-fire, semi-automatic rifles with a magazine capacity of over 6. No pistol with a magazine over 10. Exchange program for high cap mags for a year." This will bypass the "but what is an assault weapon, really?" argument.

https://twitter.com/TheAuthorGuy/status/967920975445573634
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2596 on: February 27, 2018, 08:11:15 PM »
I've heard some say they use guns like AR-15s for hunting and that's why they protest banning them. Last time I checked, bambi wasn't armor plated. A weapon that dishes out that many rounds per second isn't needed to kill a deer. And if they do need that many bullets to take down one animal, they're a terrible shot and should aim for quality over quantity. Not to mention an AR-15 would probably tear up the animal, reducing what could be harvested.

Then again, I'm against hunting for sport in general so it's not like changing the weapon is going to make it better from my point of view.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2597 on: February 28, 2018, 07:29:46 AM »
Most AR15 variants are going to be in 5.56, a military round not actually intended to kill anything let alone a deer which regularly run away after being hit by cars. That again was another bit of gun lobby silliness.
I would assume deer hunters would favour 0.30 hollow points but don't know.

Edit: And this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43223279




« Last Edit: February 28, 2018, 05:11:28 PM by Rostum »

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2598 on: February 28, 2018, 06:14:41 PM »
Most AR15 variants are going to be in 5.56, a military round not actually intended to kill anything let alone a deer which regularly run away after being hit by cars. That again was another bit of gun lobby silliness.
I would assume deer hunters would favour 0.30 hollow points but don't know.

Edit: And this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43223279
I figured it was someone pulling things out of nowhere. Never actually looked up what exactly they use to hunt with cause I saw no reason to. Perhaps I should have to better counter the argument, but considering I don't often talk to hunters about guns to begin with, it'd never seemed important.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2599 on: February 28, 2018, 07:08:44 PM »
Not that it's truly relevant, but 5.56 /.223 ammunition determines what the gun is good at. If you get a larger, heavier bullet in hollow point, you can take deer, although hogs/elk/bears are not a certain thing.
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2600 on: March 01, 2018, 10:32:54 PM »
Allow me to briefly sum up the Trump White House.

Holy crap.

I'll notify your next of kin... that you sucked!

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2602 on: March 07, 2018, 03:16:00 AM »
Because nothing is holier....

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2603 on: March 08, 2018, 03:24:28 PM »
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2604 on: March 18, 2018, 09:48:08 PM »
Sorry if I'm bringing up a sore subject, but it's been bothering me for quite a while now. I keep hearing from news people that a 30-something approval rating is absolutely abysmal for a president this early in his term. But that's still about one-third. And I can't wrap my head around THAT large a chunk of a very large country considering Trump in any way a functioning president. Even accounting for racism there's still his childishness, bullying of families of dead soldiers, his attempts to undermine the country's basic institutions, the corruption of everyone around him that keeps getting brought further into the light, and his pathetic submissiveness to Vladimir Putin. One would think that last issue would be the big killer. Even shrieking asshole racists consider themselves patriots, and from what I understand Russian interference with America's elections and institutions is now acknowledged by everyone except Trump. And he is saying and doing jack shit about it.

From what I understand, big chunks of rural America are hard-hit by joblessness and fed a steady stream of propaganda, but I'm still having trouble considering that an explanation for the above.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2605 on: March 18, 2018, 11:02:45 PM »
For better or worse, the 1st amendment was so that when the NSA, or NKVD, or SS, or KGB, or FBI, or Gestapo, or Inquisition, or SEALs, or whoever it is comes a-knocking, you should be able to shoot back. Once you outlaw SAMs, battletanks, fighters and heavy machine guns, it's all meaningless anyway. I don't see why AR-15s should bother anyone one way or the other.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2606 on: March 19, 2018, 02:14:31 AM »
first amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Do you mean the second?: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The first 10 amendments make up the bill of rights.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2607 on: March 19, 2018, 02:27:09 PM »
Thank You. I now feel so stupid, but at least I hopefully won't do it again. (I've done it before.)
I meant ,ilitia.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2608 on: March 26, 2018, 07:25:49 PM »
So much going on right now. I check this thread pretty much every day, but nothing. Are we all burned out?

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2609 on: March 26, 2018, 08:59:31 PM »
I intentionally listen to Fantasy novel on my commute rather than the news.
Because.

Porn stars
Firings
China
N. Korea
Idiots
Warhawks
Shootings
Cheeto heads
Lies
Lies
And the Liars who tell them
Fill in the next fifty lines of this list yourself
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