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Genuine Real Archery
« on: January 24, 2015, 11:33:44 PM »
This is so amazing and makes sense of so much in our history of the skills of archers, this man is absolutely brilliant. Watch and enjoy-

https://www.nerdist.com/2015/01/badass-danish-youtuber-destroys-every-hollywood-archery-myth/
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Re: Genuine Real Archery
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2015, 11:48:57 PM »
Incredible.  Fits with some other recent posts about real sword fighting and how popular fiction and movies get it all wrong. I think any fantasy writer worth her or his salt should be looking at these restorations. Otherwise we just depend on a weak trope. (Almost typed tripe.  Guess that might be true too!)
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Re: Genuine Real Archery
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2015, 11:26:08 AM »
Ohmygawd, thank you!
It was amazing, and it will definitely impact the way I read fights with arrows now :D
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2015, 01:36:07 PM »
Very Interesting being an archer myself (not a very good one through)
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Re: Genuine Real Archery
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2015, 01:42:05 PM »
Haha, I just wanted to post this. :D It's really amazing. So, writers... rethink archery and fight scenes? ;)
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2015, 01:49:41 PM »
Haha, I just wanted to post this. :D It's really amazing. So, writers... rethink archery and fight scenes? ;)

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Re: Genuine Real Archery
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 08:05:32 AM »
Glad you enjoyed, trouble is I'll never look at archers in the same way again. Here comes Legolas, quiverful of arrows on his back, bow poised, eagle eyed  and ready -  then the arrows spilling all over the ground as he moves forward................
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Re: Genuine Real Archery
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 10:02:45 AM »
Glad you enjoyed, trouble is I'll never look at archers in the same way again. Here comes Legolas, quiverful of arrows on his back, bow poised, eagle eyed  and ready -  then the arrows spilling all over the ground as he moves forward................

hehehe I agree, that will make me look at quivers in a whole different way in the future ;D (i.e. big waste of space)
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2015, 12:47:05 AM »
I think Hollywood knows lot of this, they have advisors...which they don't listen then :D Whats looks cooler on film usually gets advantage. Like in a scene with archers you can hear order "fire", while the right thing should be "loose", cause nothing fires when you loose the arrow. I had the chance to work on a movie (with one of the best archery trainers probably) and have seen this in practice. Fire-loose, make-up detail taking something from what is more accurate in reality and etc. That's for movies part, I doubt it will change...

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Re: Genuine Real Archery
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2015, 06:57:52 AM »

 
I think Hollywood knows lot of this, they have advisors...which they don't listen then :D

 Yep, that's because Hollywood follow the rule of cool :P

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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2015, 09:43:28 AM »
Most if it is trick shoting, which in most cases is not something anyone would attempt in a life and death situation. Also, these trick shoters seem to always use bows that are very weak and strung with rubber band so they can draw fast and rapidly. Though then, none of them have the muscles and bones of actual professional military archers, who would probably be still pretty quick.

It's however great to demonstrate how quickly and accurately archers can aim. Most movies appear to immitate olympic archers, who take very long time to draw and aim, as speed isn't of any concern to them and the arrow has to land not just good, but perfectly to get that one point that can make the difference between a silver or gold medal.
It's the opposite of swordfighting, as there are lots of "sword moves" that look cool on film, but would be pretty suicidal in battle.

Legolas stunts in the Middle-Earth movies are stupid nonsense. But his shoting skills are just able to compete with what a really good archer can do.  :D
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Re: Genuine Real Archery
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2015, 02:04:03 PM »
Legolas stunts in the Middle-Earth movies are stupid nonsense.
His archery is more cool then real, but we can forgive most of it cause he is an elf. Elvish archery should be super skilled. When they made him ride skateboards on steps and climbing on elephants, then it became nonsense. "Suspend disbelief" theory - yeah, poor job on those scenes. Btw talking about Legolas, I'm counting just LOTR movies (Hobbit was a mistake). 
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2015, 02:22:24 PM »
The movie elves are arrogant and perfect at everything.
Yeah, after the first movie it was a steady decline.
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Re: Genuine Real Archery
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2015, 10:38:36 PM »
Legolas stunts in the Middle-Earth movies are stupid nonsense.
His archery is more cool then real, but we can forgive most of it cause he is an elf. Elvish archery should be super skilled. When they made him ride skateboards on steps and climbing on elephants, then it became nonsense. "Suspend disbelief" theory - yeah, poor job on those scenes. Btw talking about Legolas, I'm counting just LOTR movies (Hobbit was a mistake).
It wasn't at all real, but I rather liked him picking people off as he was climbing up the oliphaunt, he kept up his tally with Gimli as well.
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Re: Genuine Real Archery
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2015, 08:44:13 AM »
Yes it's an epic video!
Actually I watched Princess Mononoke the other day for the millionth time and was pretty pleased to see that the hero is depicted putting his arrows on the external side of the bow, just like this man said was fastest.
Ashitaka also catches an arrow in mid-air and sends it back, and while his demonic strength explained it at first, I guess now I'm forced to reconsider!
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