September 20, 2019, 05:33:27 PM

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Offline Rostum

Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3285 on: September 18, 2019, 09:01:15 AM »
or perhaps don't feel an arbitary line on a map is relevent to them in any way at all. If you are British you are in a strange place usually only some of the English feel British. I am fairly sure if you asked Saraband would tell you he feels Portuguese and Scottish. The Welsh or Irish have rarely been known to use British as well.

Language is probably a big part of it, Something that is taught about as badly as possible in the UK and not aided by the rest of the worlds ability to speak English or at least American.

On a more localised note.

"My Dad says that being a Londoner has nothing to do with where you're born. He says that there are people who get off a jumbo jet at Heathrow, go through immigration waving any kind of passport, hop on the tube and by the time the train's pulled into Piccadilly Circus they've become a Londoner.”

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3286 on: September 18, 2019, 09:47:35 AM »
Yes, I wasn't questioning the ability to feel like you belong in a country, it was more the idea that you had to choose a single one.

For me, feeling portuguese or british (or english, or even in my case, yorkshire lass hehe), has got to do with ways of doing things, things you enjoy, where you feel comfortable, where you have your friends, food you like and a bunch of other things hard to define. It doesn't prevent 'multiple feelings'.
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3287 on: September 18, 2019, 01:36:36 PM »
I went to Wales recently, and it was quite a surreal experience. Wales is far more linked to England than Scotland and Ireland, it's even part of the Kingdom of England (Which is why the Welsh dragon isn't on the Union flag), but they still have their own language, which has nothing at all in common with English and quite a lot of them still speak it. It was at once like being in a foreign country and being in the same country, if that makes sense.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #3288 on: September 18, 2019, 03:41:00 PM »
It does make sense, and I felt similarly when I visited a couple of years ago.

I also remember when I went to Ireland about 15 years ago (maybe more), and I went to Dublin and then Belfast. In Belfast a guy saw me with a map and started chatting, and I told him how Belfast felt both british and irish. When he asked me how, I said that it had the british order and way of doing things but with an irish feeling and sentiment, and he laughed :)
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