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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2925 on: November 12, 2018, 04:04:59 AM »

Also, this is really interesting.  The banned ad is really good, and it's royally messed up that it was banned.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/09/iceland-christmas-ad-palm-oil-banned

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In a move that has been widely criticised, Clearcast, which approves ads on behalf of broadcasters including Sky, Channel 4 and ITV, says it couldn’t clear the Iceland ad against the rules of the Broadcast Code of Advertising Practice. The Advertising Standards Authority, which has the authority to rule on Clearcast’s decisions, says it has had “no role” in this case.

But rather than protecting the public from insidious political messages, Clearcast has prevented a crucial message being broadcast to millions of viewers, many of whom buy products containing palm oil without knowing the devastation it’s causing to animals and global warming. Protecting and restoring forests would achieve 18% of the emissions mitigation needed by 2030 to avoid irreversible climate change, a group of 40 scientists said last month.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2926 on: November 12, 2018, 07:52:25 AM »
In LA we have a serious housing crisis, and rent control is really almost a life or death issue.  Imagine if at any time your landlord can triple the price of your apartment-- you have no stability, and nowhere to even move to.

Holy shit.

Any ideology can be taken too far, and I often get the impression that America is a case of capitalism being completely out of control.
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2927 on: November 12, 2018, 12:54:09 PM »
Interesting to juxtapose the last two posts. America may often be capitalism run amok, but I don’t see a scenario in which a supermarket company wouldhave been blocked from running that ad. That would have meant lower ad dollars for someone!  8)

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2928 on: November 12, 2018, 04:01:12 PM »
Ok Clearcast are a private company and as far as I know have no regulatory powers whatsoever. My impression is that they provide a paid for service to independent TV companies (BBC does not do ads) vetting ads and providing a third party layer to absolve the TV companies of responsibility in the case of a bad response from the general public. Too many lawyers working in marketing and this sort of service is what you get.

Now as Clearcast develop ads sorry conceptualise it might be interesting to find out who spends money with them. palm oil gets used a lot in processed food.

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2932 on: November 14, 2018, 01:14:19 AM »
Maybe the ideal present for those who have everything ?

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2933 on: November 14, 2018, 05:46:59 AM »
Maybe the ideal present for those who have everything ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qv8RSreIM

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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2934 on: November 15, 2018, 11:01:37 AM »
Ok, so we have a Brexit deal proposal, and I'm super disappointed and angry at all politicians, who automatically say they disagree without even reading it, just because they don't like May.

Yes, my favourite option would be no Brexit, or a second referendum where people understand much better all that is involved, but if that's not possible, shouldn't people give the deal a chance?
It's a negotiation for goodness sake, nobody is going to get exactly what and everything that they want! To automatically dismiss it because they disagree with item 5.2 and 28.9, or the wording on page 362, or whatever, or just because it's a deal that came from May, seems totally petty and childish.

And this is happening in every single party.

I want to hide and ignore everything, but it's important.
I read the parts of the deal that refer to being able to continue living here and they seem ok - I haven't had time to browse through other items, but I'm giving it a chance.

Edit: just read this bit about the situation and many people resigning:
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Re: Politics and other ailments of the real world
« Reply #2935 on: November 15, 2018, 07:50:02 PM »
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