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Title: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: m3mnoch on April 28, 2016, 10:45:17 PM
looks like it's officially official.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/103674399065634804648/posts/1aeEKJiqdeF

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Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time ™
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Apr 28, 1:45 PM
Announcement

The following is a press statement that has been approved by the studio involved in contract negotiations:

Update: Wanted to share with you exciting news about The Wheel of Time. Legal issues have been resolved. The Wheel of Time will become a cutting edge TV series! I couldn’t be more pleased. Look for the official announcement coming soon from a major studio —Harriet ?
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Roelor on April 29, 2016, 08:51:37 AM
This makes me sad..
Another one of my favorite series getting prepared to be destroyed for the public.
I hate movies and series of books that I enjoyed.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Hedin on April 29, 2016, 01:44:00 PM
This makes me sad..
Another one of my favorite series getting prepared to be destroyed for the public.
I hate movies and series of books that I enjoyed.

The thing with the series is that there is so much padding, especially in the middle, that a tighter and more focused TV show might benefit to the story as a whole. 
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Katyda on April 29, 2016, 02:09:53 PM
I've heard of the wheel of Time series but never have read it, is it any good?
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Roelor on April 29, 2016, 02:25:58 PM
I personally love it.
it slows down in the middle, but I don't mind it as enough intriguing things happen.

Definitely worth it
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Nora on April 29, 2016, 03:00:13 PM
This makes me sad..
Another one of my favorite series getting prepared to be destroyed for the public.
I hate movies and series of books that I enjoyed.

The thing with the series is that there is so much padding, especially in the middle, that a tighter and more focused TV show might benefit to the story as a whole.

Yeah, the series totally lost my interest in the middle, and I never finished it. Now, liking Sanderson as I do, the thing stopping me from picking it up is that I'd have to start from the beginning... urgh!
So might actually watch the pilot and give the show version a shot. So long as it's not tacky  ???
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: m3mnoch on April 29, 2016, 03:25:00 PM

This makes me sad..
Another one of my favorite series getting prepared to be destroyed for the public.
I hate movies and series of books that I enjoyed.

The thing with the series is that there is so much padding, especially in the middle, that a tighter and more focused TV show might benefit to the story as a whole.

this is precisely my opinion.

also, between the lotr movies, the harry potter movies, and the got tv series, i think the world has figured out how to do quality adaptations.  i don't see why wheel of time would be different.  especially as fiery as harriet mcdougal is.


Yeah, the series totally lost my interest in the middle, and I never finished it. Now, liking Sanderson as I do, the thing stopping me from picking it up is that I'd have to start from the beginning... urgh!
So might actually watch the pilot and give the show version a shot. So long as it's not tacky  ???

boy oh boy -- do i have a present for you!
http://www.thonky.com/wot/

it's a 34k word, paragraph-per-chapter, summary of the whole thing.  it was my in-between-book lifeboat while waiting for those last few to come out.

i've dumped it to ebook, if you want it.  tho, i seem to remember you were pretty badass about doing that yourself.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Nora on April 29, 2016, 03:30:03 PM
I appreciate your help m3m, but I think this is kinda worse!  ;D

I mean, reading 34k of notes instead of prose would be completely dry and uninteresting. I can see how this is good as a refresher, but I read the first half of that series over 10 years ago. I remember nothing beyond the peasant boy picked up by destiny and the evil lord waiting for his time.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: m3mnoch on April 29, 2016, 03:48:56 PM
I appreciate your help m3m, but I think this is kinda worse!  ;D

I mean, reading 34k of notes instead of prose would be completely dry and uninteresting. I can see how this is good as a refresher, but I read the first half of that series over 10 years ago. I remember nothing beyond the peasant boy picked up by destiny and the evil lord waiting for his time.

ah.  yeah.  good call.  they're more of a "previously, on wheel of time" rather than a "wtf was that series about again?"
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Mr.J on April 30, 2016, 12:03:26 AM
Even though I know nothing about the books at all I thought fans might find this post by Adam Whitehead on his blog very interesting and some food for thought:
http://thewertzone.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/the-wheel-of-television-parts-3-and-4.html
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Elfy on April 30, 2016, 12:55:00 AM
Even though I know nothing about the books at all I thought fans might find this post by Adam Whitehead on his blog very interesting and some food for thought:
http://thewertzone.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/the-wheel-of-television-parts-3-and-4.html
The read and review that Adam Roberts did on his now defunct blog punkadiddle was worth a read for an irreverent and somewhat snarky look at the series.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: cupiscent on April 30, 2016, 12:57:15 AM
My feeling about the Game of Thrones TV series is that it does a good job of streamlining and decluttering the book content - there have been several arcs and developments that have come clear in the TV show that I felt remained murky in the books - so hopefully WoT can get a similar treatment and be something both snappy and epic on the small screen.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Mr.J on April 30, 2016, 01:15:27 AM
My feeling about the Game of Thrones TV series is that it does a good job of streamlining and decluttering the book content - there have been several arcs and developments that have come clear in the TV show that I felt remained murky in the books - so hopefully WoT can get a similar treatment and be something both snappy and epic on the small screen.
I agree to an extent, then I look at what happened to Dorne...and it made me not bother with the show anymore.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Elfy on April 30, 2016, 01:20:34 AM
My feeling about the Game of Thrones TV series is that it does a good job of streamlining and decluttering the book content - there have been several arcs and developments that have come clear in the TV show that I felt remained murky in the books - so hopefully WoT can get a similar treatment and be something both snappy and epic on the small screen.
I agree to an extent, then I look at what happened to Dorne...and it made me not bother with the show anymore.
Dorne is unfortunately an inconvenient mess in both show and books, although the show has handled it very badly. Is there anything similar in WoT?
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: night_wrtr on April 30, 2016, 01:53:41 AM
I think it would be interesting to watch on screen. It will always be one of my favorite series.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Hedin on April 30, 2016, 02:51:47 AM
My feeling about the Game of Thrones TV series is that it does a good job of streamlining and decluttering the book content - there have been several arcs and developments that have come clear in the TV show that I felt remained murky in the books - so hopefully WoT can get a similar treatment and be something both snappy and epic on the small screen.
I agree to an extent, then I look at what happened to Dorne...and it made me not bother with the show anymore.
Dorne is unfortunately an inconvenient mess in both show and books, although the show has handled it very badly. Is there anything similar in WoT?

It some ways Seanchan = Dorne.   I kind of feel like both are around for the end game but their actions until that time are kind of a waste.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: DireWolfSnow on April 30, 2016, 02:43:36 PM
I was very excited to hear about WoT finally getting a (hopefully) proper TV adaptation!

At 14 books the series can be rather daunting, but hopefully the show will bring new readers to the series.

I'm curious which "major studio" has signed on to produce the adaptation. HBO might be interested for a successor to GoT (which is apparently winding down after two more years supposedly...?). Showtime might also be interested in it as well giving them something to compete with GoT. I've also heard of Sony/AMC being a potential candidate as well.

So long as it doesn't go to MTV (Sorry Shannara...) or Starz (anyone remember the awful King Arthur drama series? No... that's good) I think we should be fine. I'm willing to even give SyFy the benefit of the doubt after how well The Expanse turned out.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Mr.J on April 30, 2016, 07:26:04 PM
You'd imagine AMC or FX would want to go for it. An attempt to be a successor to GoT since it's (supposedly) ending soon, and they have the weight to push it alongside their other big shows.

Two basic things that show would need, money and a good script/showrunner(s).

Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Elfy on May 01, 2016, 01:09:04 AM
I was very excited to hear about WoT finally getting a (hopefully) proper TV adaptation!

At 14 books the series can be rather daunting, but hopefully the show will bring new readers to the series.

I'm curious which "major studio" has signed on to produce the adaptation. HBO might be interested for a successor to GoT (which is apparently winding down after two more years supposedly...?). Showtime might also be interested in it as well giving them something to compete with GoT. I've also heard of Sony/AMC being a potential candidate as well.

So long as it doesn't go to MTV (Sorry Shannara...) or Starz (anyone remember the awful King Arthur drama series? No... that's good) I think we should be fine. I'm willing to even give SyFy the benefit of the doubt after how well The Expanse turned out.
From memory, HBO had a few things pitched to them at the time they decided to go with GoT, and one of those was an Arthurian concept that they passed on, I believe that was probably the dreadful thing that Starz made. WoT has a slight advantage over GoT, in that it is a completed series, so the show runners won't have the issue of making up off book stuff when they get to a certain point.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Takoren on May 03, 2016, 04:53:56 AM
For me, WOT is one of those series that got me reading fantasy and sorta stayed with me even though I acknowledge how flawed it is.

I echo the sentiments of many here who have said that a TV series might be an opportunity to iron out some of the wrinkles we all know this series has. While I have a lot of fondness for it, it also tested my patience to the Nth degree several times. I'd love to see a talented showrunner take a hand to this.

Also, because I'm a giant nerd, I've already cast this: http://armiesoftheundying.blogspot.ca/2016/05/the-wheel-weaves-as-network-wills.html (http://armiesoftheundying.blogspot.ca/2016/05/the-wheel-weaves-as-network-wills.html)
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Mr.J on May 29, 2016, 03:20:34 PM
I know absolutely nothing about the books or characters, but with this fan-cast I would definitely, definitely watch. For those interested:
http://www.tor.com/2016/05/25/dream-casting-the-wheel-of-time-adaptation/
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Justan Henner on May 29, 2016, 03:43:04 PM
I can't see Emma Stone was Nynaeve. Not even a little bit. Her demeanor in every role seems way too coy and indifferent.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: m3mnoch on May 29, 2016, 04:26:38 PM
I can't see Emma Stone was Nynaeve. Not even a little bit. Her demeanor in every role seems way too coy and indifferent.

right?!  you can't have someone who has the "america's sweetheart" persona and have her play a cranky, braid-tugging bitch.

a) i don't think emily blunt is too old.
b) hasn't emma watson already nailed that role?

as to the rest of his picks -- jeff bridges is absolutely wrong.  ashley greene and sam elliot are absolutely right.  i dig nicholas hoult as rand.  and the northern provinces being asian-flavored is genius.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: xiagan on May 29, 2016, 07:24:56 PM
and the northern provinces being asian-flavored is genius.
Well, the Borderlands are "asian-flavored" in the books, soooo....? ;)
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: m3mnoch on May 29, 2016, 07:35:23 PM
and the northern provinces being asian-flavored is genius.
Well, the Borderlands are "asian-flavored" in the books, soooo....? ;)

weird, i never noticed that.  is that just me?  i mean, even with the physical size of the people up there?  like, lan's huge.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: JMack on May 29, 2016, 07:42:53 PM
i might actually have to re-read the books in this series that i've read
and read more

thought, seriously, is the bath tub scene 2 hundred pages long?
how does that even work?
wrinkled skin in 15 minutes, am i right?
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Eclipse on May 29, 2016, 07:46:24 PM
Why don't you make it more interesting by recreating the scene at the same time as reading it.
Title: Re: Wheel of Time TV Series
Post by: Nora on May 30, 2016, 02:50:53 AM
200 pages is easily 2 to 3 hours work. Doable if you refill the bathtub, or you're in a heated bath a la japanese, but man you'd age three decades in the process for sure.