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Offline CameronJohnston

Star Trek Discovery
« on: November 22, 2017, 06:06:54 AM »
I'm surprised there is not a thread on this yet.

Anybody else been watching Star Trek Discovery? I was not impressed with the first two episodes but it has really grown on me, and after the mid-season finale I really want to find out where it is going. Jason Isaacs makes for a great captain.

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Offline DaveEllis

Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2017, 08:52:50 AM »
I've really loved it, but with a few caveats.  I think the first two episodes suffered from not really knowing what the premise of the show really was beyond Klingon war and following a lower ranked officer, so while you thought you were watching a "pilot", you were really watching a "prequel".  But once Isaacs came in as slightly dodgy and yet likeable captain it really picked up.  The second Harry Mudd ep and the one on the planet with the antennae really felt like old school star trek with modern sensibilities, which is I guess what they are going for.

The caveats - the level of technology is really distracting when it is supposed to only be set 10 years before Kirk-era.  Sarek is really forced into the plot and I didn't particularly like that part of Burnham's back story.

plus
Spoiler for Hiden:
killing off all the cool women, Michelle Yeoh and the security woman whose name I can't remember but she was in BSG, that was a real shame.

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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2017, 12:50:48 PM »
We gave it a bunch of episodes but found we didn't really like any characters very much - I wasn't rooting for any of them, really. So now we watch the Orville, which is surprisingly good and imo quite a bit better.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2017, 03:02:07 PM »
Found it weak and stopped after the 4th episode because it was becoming laughable. Much worse than what could have been done. Not so "bad" in itself, but given how little series I watch, it was not worth my time.
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Offline Yopla

Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2017, 10:53:15 AM »
We gave it a bunch of episodes but found we didn't really like any characters very much - I wasn't rooting for any of them, really. So now we watch the Orville, which is surprisingly good and imo quite a bit better.

Indeed. I found that "The Orville" is a better Star Trek series than "Discovery"...

I was really hyped by the two-part pilot but my interest for the show decreased with every passing episode. As The Gem Cutter said, the characters aren't really likeable and the story is... well, garbage to my opinion. We could have been granted with modern reflexion on fanatism and agressivity, a history of the Klingons and the evolution of the Federation into the thing it is in Kirk-era. But no.

Spoiler for Hiden:
We've got techno-bio-bullsh*t stuff instead, a non-surprising love-story and very evil bad caricatural vilains.

Although, I found the timeloop episode quite original. Not good, but with an interesting point of view.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2017, 01:42:01 PM »
I agree with all the criticisms.
And I watched every episode, enjoying myself a great deal.
It’s a huge mash of missed opportunities, with the writers always on the verge of something fascinating, and often backing off.

Some things play for shock value, then get abandoned
Spoiler for Hiden:
the engineer walks away from the mirror and his reflection stays in it; yes, the engineer’s story of dislocation continues, but the image becomes a throw-away after being used to exclamation point an episode

The Klingons are horrible: TNG, etc. had them much better. Especially the excruciatingly slow pace of their speech.

But I get a huge kick out the megalomaniac captain, and I enjoy Burnham.

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