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Netflix "Jessica Jones" series
« on: November 19, 2015, 07:58:32 PM »
This from reviewer Brian Tellerico on www.rogerebert.com:

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Marvel’s Jessica Jones,” debuting in its entirety on Netflix this Friday, November 20th, is one of the best products to bear the Marvel name. It is daring, ambitious television that doesn’t spoon-feed its audience like so many writers who adapt material from comic books choose to do. It is a Marvel piece more concerned with aftermath than origin, which is a major change of pace for the brand. We meet Jessica Jones (Krysten Ritter) long after major events have happened in her superhero arc, and that helps make her feel more like a three-dimensional part of the MCU than just another origin story would. And the writers, led by Melissa Rosenberg (“Dexter”), aren’t afraid to tackle issues that Marvel hasn’t really dealt with before in film or TV, including trauma, abuse, gender, sexuality, privacy and a patriarchal society. Jones is one of the Marvel Universe’s most interesting and complete characters to date, and I’ve only seen four episodes. Netflix has done it again.

Color me very interested. I'd never even heard of Jessica Jones (maybe after my time of reading Marvel in the '70s/early '80s?), but "Daredevil" was so good, and "Agent Carter" was super. The limited season form single character approach seems to be a great one so far.

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Re: Netflix "Jessica Jones" series
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2015, 08:25:21 PM »
I have been eagerly anticipating this show since it was announced. The trickle of stylish trailers has only peaked my interest. I've been a fan of Krysten Ritter since her role on Breaking Bad, and from what I know about the original Alias story (comics) it sounds like exactly the sort of dark, twisted fiction I enjoy.

I know how good Daredevil was, but several reviewers I read often have said Jessica Jones is even better. Which, given the material they're working with, I can believe. Now if I only had time to watch it all!

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Re: Netflix "Jessica Jones" series
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2015, 08:43:41 PM »
I have nothing planned this weekend except a reccie to the Natural History Museum. Shall I watch this or carry on with my epic run of reading I am on at the moment? Have half of Uprooted to go. I might possibly be reading at half the rate of some of the more prodigious readers on this forum such as Arry! Heady days!
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2015, 12:24:48 AM »
Definitely planning to watch this.

Daredevil was excellent.  And the previews look good.

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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2015, 02:24:26 AM »
Definitely watching this.
But of course, depending on how they play the story, fans like me are going to want backstory. I had no idea this was dealing with the aftermath of her hero career. I thought it was close to the beginning like Daredevil. So... What happened to her? Marvel, you must answer this somehow!
 Of course, can't be the only one to think of this, so Marvel will have something up their sleeve. Can't wait to see what it is!
Also, question about Agent Carter. One of the reasons I stopped watching Shield was because the TV show tied in directly with the movies. So if you missed something like the Winter Soldier, you got spoiled. Does Agent Carter do this?

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Re: Netflix "Jessica Jones" series
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2015, 02:59:36 AM »
Definitely watching this.
But of course, depending on how they play the story, fans like me are going to want backstory. I had no idea this was dealing with the aftermath of her hero career. I thought it was close to the beginning like Daredevil. So... What happened to her? Marvel, you must answer this somehow!
 Of course, can't be the only one to think of this, so Marvel will have something up their sleeve. Can't wait to see what it is!
Also, question about Agent Carter. One of the reasons I stopped watching Shield was because the TV show tied in directly with the movies. So if you missed something like the Winter Soldier, you got spoiled. Does Agent Carter do this?

Agent Carter ties in to the first Captain America movie, but not much else.  Stands alone very well.
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Re: Netflix "Jessica Jones" series
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2015, 09:30:37 PM »
Opening Credits...

http://www.polygon.com/2015/11/19/9765622/watch-the-opening-sequence-to-jessica-jones-before-the-show-comes-out

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Re: Netflix "Jessica Jones" series
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2015, 03:11:30 AM »
Watched the first two episodes tonight with Mrs. JMack. Really enjoyed them. The evil badguy is quite creepy. Really, the show is more a horror story than a supoer hero tale, which is a nice change. You find yourself always thinking someone is going to be behind each door, around each corner. Which of Jessica's friends will be damaged? How deep in the shite will she drop before somehow getting out?

I really didn't know JJ as a character, but I sure as heck know
Spoiler for Hiden:
Luke Cage, Hero for Hire!
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Which totally made my night when I realized who he was.
 
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2015, 10:15:37 PM »
I know, that made me so happy!
Spoiler for Hiden:
I'm wondering how this will effect his TV series? How much will we here about the events that take place between him and Jesica? I'm about halfway through season 1, and I don't have the answers yet.
I would really like to know where in Hell's Kitchen's timeline this movie takes place, or where in the MCU timeline. I've seen no Avengers 2 references, no Daredevil references, nothing. I have found a Civil War Easter egg, but that's it.
If anyone has the answer, please link it. Or, if you found something from a particular episode that gives an idea, just say the episode number. That would be awesome!

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Re: Netflix "Jessica Jones" series
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2015, 09:11:19 AM »
I watched the first two,thought the first episode was really slow but it picked up in the second

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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2015, 07:07:06 PM »
Done.  Really enjoyed this -- gritty, damaged, complicated characters struggling to do the right thing, sometimes struggling just to figure out what that is.  And *lots* of well-formed characters, not just the main cast.

Found myself bored by some of the fight sequences -- no idea why.  Also felt like it needed a drinking game for times Jessica is smashed through a table or desk.  But that was minor.  The show made me care about even minor characters and showed people actually struggling to solve their problems while wrestling with their inner demons, rather than passively wrestling with those demons.  See: Episode 5.

As with Daredevil, the spectacular villain let the hero shine.  I hope they can keep that up.  Can't wait for Luke Cage next year.

I'm a bit confused about the schedule going forward -- Daredevil Season 2 next April, then Luke Cage in the fall?  Will there be a Jessica Jones Season 2 as well, or will she have a secondary role in the other two shows, or perhaps both?  It feels like the seasons are built around the villains, so I'd expect more and more teamwork with each new season.


Extreme Weirdness:  It looks like the thirteen episodes had nine different writers and nine different directors.  It's amazing how cohesive the whole thing felt given that.  I'd love to know the backstory of that, particularly the writing process.


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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2015, 08:16:17 PM »
Finished S1 of Jessica Jones earlier. Alongside Daredevil (which aired earlier this year) and Luke Cage (which airs in 2016) it is the Marvel Cinemtic Universes latest foray into TV this time on Netflix. The aim is these three shows (and possibly Iron Fist sometime in 2016 but this my be a film) will build to a limited mini-series entitled The Defenders.

Like Daredevil, Jessica Jones is a street-level superhero. So unlike the main MCU these are more focused stories featuring characters that are maybe not as superpowered as the likes of the Hulk or Thor. Also unlike the main MCU these stories are aimed for a more adult audience, they are a lot darker, more gritty storylines and feature themes such as abuse, torture, extreme violence and rape.

Jessica Jones, whilst following the same themes as Daredevil, is a much darker tale. Jessica is an emotionally damaged character who fills her days delving into the sordid underbelly of New Yorks Hells Kitchen as a Private Eye and her nights drinking heavily. Then during what appears to be just a missing persons case she learns that a man from her past - the man who caused her to be the emotionally damaged person she is now - has returned and seems intent on carrying on where she and he finished.

This is not such an action orientated show as Daredevil, yes there is action and most of it graphic, but this show has a more complex plot and the main story involving Jessica and Kilgrave is very dark and uncomfortable viewing at times. Unfortunately the complex plot does hinder the flow at times, there do seem to be too many subplots which could have been tied up in quick but ran on for several episodes. Jessica herself is a difficult character to like. She is abrasive, abusive and refuses to accept anyones help or even if anyone can help even when they are obviously well equipped to do so.

On the whole this is a great addition to the MCU and a worthy companion piece to Daredevil. It is not an easy watch and I'm sure a lot of people will be uncomfortable by some of the topics covered. I look forwards to next years Luke Cage, if his portrayal in several episodes is anything to go buy I anticipate that show will be explosive.
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Re: Netflix "Jessica Jones" series
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2015, 10:39:38 PM »
I don't understand what you mean about the subplots. I think that's what makes this show stand out from Daredevil. You get these really complex scenes where each character has their own agenda. With Daredevil it was just... Well... Daredevil. I understand they went on for a bit, but as far as I'm concerned, if they had ended sooner, it would've messed up a lot of scenes.
Of course, I haven't completely finished the season yet. I'm only on episode 10 or 11. But considering most of the subplots have wrapped themselves up, I doubt my mind will change based on what happens next.
On a side note, I don't think I've ever screamed at a TV show more than I have with this one. There are some really intense moments.

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Re: Netflix "Jessica Jones" series
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2015, 01:41:11 AM »
Re: timing...

After Avengers. 
Spoiler for because...:
Lots of mentions of the Hulk and the alien invasion...
After Daredevil Season 1.
Spoiler for because...:
Crossover character -- the nurse who takes Daredevil in.  Can't remember her name.

*I think* before Winter Soldier,
Spoiler for because...:
because there's no mention of Shield, and that's when Shield became public knowledge.

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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2015, 08:40:25 AM »
Finished it last night and loved it. Not like me to binge through series anymore (took me months to finish Daredevil) but this was top-notch stuff. I think any complaints about it will have to be taken with a pinch of salt as this really was doing some things that other shows (and films!) aren’t doing. Not just a strong, female-led superhero show, but easily 75% of the cast were women. There was a gay relationship at the centre of one of the sub-plots and it was realistic and harrowing. The villain (a superb David Tennant, most definitely channelling his Doctor) was realised in a way that the movies would never touch. What happens when a narcissistic, psychotic maniac has mind control? Of course he becomes a violent mental and physical rapist. I doubt you’d ever hear that word uttered near Loki, despite many similarities. I thought Luke Cage was brilliant and I’m definitely very excited to see his series now.

Maybe a little spoilery in this next bit...
Spoiler for Hiden:
Not too much links to the outside Marvel universe here yet, but lots of loose ends left to pick up in a second series. To me the ending sets up a Season 2, and I suspect this will be by far popular enough to warrant it. I was trying to figure out what the villainous super-soldiers might be (IGH was it?) – my brother says possibly A.I.M.

I think the plan for next year is meant to be Daredevil Season 2 around April, Luke Cage late Spring/Summer, Iron Fist this time next year. But where does Jessica Jones Season 2 fit into that? And I wouldn’t be too surprised to see The Punisher get a series of his own. It could get messy quite quickly! I was thinking that with Netflix moving into doing movies they could quite easily do The Defenders as an Avengers-esque movie when it comes time.
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