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« on: December 04, 2020, 05:42:42 PM »
So who's watching this?

One of the best TV shows on, right now? Even if you hate SW, you'll probably like this. It's mostly laid back, moves at a slow pace...but the overall production values and visual effects makes it a great watch. Some filler episodes, but it does keep chugging along well.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2020, 08:35:03 PM »
I loved the show except for the terrible ending. The ending could have been handled more subtly and beautifully.
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'Yes' said Caladan Brood. 'You never learn'

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Re: Mandalorian
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2020, 01:07:07 AM »
I refuse to subscribe to Disney, so I don't know when we'll be able to watch this, but I have a superfan online buddy who is losing her mind over one of the cartoon-show characters showing up in Mandalorian, so I am experiencing all sorts of things vicariously... :)

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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2020, 12:10:38 PM »
Cupiscent, I'll pm you a link tonight...

I'm watching it. It's OK. I one hundred percent lost my fucking mind and shrieked like a mad woman when a certain character got name dropped. But this week was awful... It shows when it's random directors, especially after Filoni dropping last week's....
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Re: Mandalorian
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2020, 11:24:12 PM »
There will be a new Star Wars show that follows Revenge of the Sith, with Hayden Christensen returning as Darth Vader

https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1337174593639829507

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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2020, 06:09:43 PM »
What a season finale! probably the best appearance of **** since original trilogy.

There are 3 or 4 series plus at least 2 trilogies in works.

Rangers of New Republic
Book of Boba Fett
Ahsoka Tano spinoff
Darth Vader spinoff.

@cupiscent There's a package deal with Hule, Disney+ and ESPN. I think it's worth the money.

Plus we now have Filoni/Favreau kinda playing the role Kevin Feige plays for Marvel. So I'm expecting good stuff!
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2020, 06:29:55 PM »
I'm 2 episodes off finishing (though of course the spoilers have already found me  ::) ) and have to say the more it ties into other shows, the less interested I become. I am loving every episode so far, and it's easily one of the best things on TV, but I wish it had the chance to be its own thing rather than dovetailing into spin-offs and tie-ins.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2020, 08:54:20 PM »
I'm 2 episodes off finishing (though of course the spoilers have already found me  ::) ) and have to say the more it ties into other shows, the less interested I become. I am loving every episode so far, and it's easily one of the best things on TV, but I wish it had the chance to be its own thing rather than dovetailing into spin-offs and tie-ins.

The universe is as rich as Marvel's And the Skywalker saga isn't even the best either in story or in characters.

Thrawn is probably the best antagonist in SW universe and so much better than Sidious/Palpatine covering it with Ahsoka makes sense.

The Sith Lords [Bane, Revan, Plageuis] are way so much more interesting than Vader.

The New Rangers and Bobba Fett are standalone [just like the Mandalorian] and though they will tie in with some characters cross appearing...they are standalone series.

Finally, they have picked the right threads and characters to focus and hopefully leave the Skywalkers alone.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2020, 10:27:42 PM »
@cupiscent There's a package deal with Hule, Disney+ and ESPN. I think it's worth the money.

Not in Australia, there isn't. :)

Also, I just fundamentally refuse to give Disney my money until they give Alan Dean Foster his money.

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2021, 08:09:13 PM »
The Mandalorian was the second-most streamed show, behind The Office, according to Nielsen

https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/top-ten/

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Re: Mandalorian
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2021, 01:54:33 AM »
I'm 2 episodes off finishing (though of course the spoilers have already found me  ::) ) and have to say the more it ties into other shows, the less interested I become. I am loving every episode so far, and it's easily one of the best things on TV, but I wish it had the chance to be its own thing rather than dovetailing into spin-offs and tie-ins.

I'm not sure I get you. You're enjoying this a lot, and wish for the content to change so that characters won't be introduced that would 1/make more devoted fan happy and 2/ spin into more shows?
Why?
How is meeting Ahsoka and have her ask after Thrawn impacting your enjoyment of the show? How is the popularity of the show sparking a series for Obi-Wan and Vader, both entirely absent, preventing you from enjoying the show?
I personally found that the characters native to clone wars who joined mandalorian did it extremely well. I am still amidst Clone War, I haven't been introduced to Bo Katan yet, I didn't recognise her during her episode nor got excited for it, but that didn't impact my enjoyment of the (otherwise somewhat boring) episode. I feel like no plot element was dumbed down to accommodate future show. If you do feel that way, pls feel free to give some examples, I'm curious.

Personally extremely on the fence about Thrawn coming to live action. As someone currently writing a Thrawn longfic, it's going to be good, more readers will come around looking for him once they're familiar with him... but OMG, so much hinges on the actor they chose. People keep floating big names around and I'm desperately hoping for either Lars Mikkelsen or someone I don't know and won't think "Oh it's XYZ in blue face paint and contacts". PLEASE.
At least I think Zahn will be involved, since he was in Rebels, but Rebels shows a villainous and dumbed down Thrawn already. It's the de-escalation of the character from Heir to the Empire and Outbound Flight.
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Re: Mandalorian
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2021, 02:16:44 AM »
@Nora have you read the new cannon Thrawn books from Zahn?

I was hoping for Benedict Cumberbatch but news says Rob Downey Jr is aiming for a big role in Mandalorian world.
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2021, 05:38:56 PM »
I'm 2 episodes off finishing (though of course the spoilers have already found me  ::) ) and have to say the more it ties into other shows, the less interested I become. I am loving every episode so far, and it's easily one of the best things on TV, but I wish it had the chance to be its own thing rather than dovetailing into spin-offs and tie-ins.

I'm not sure I get you. You're enjoying this a lot, and wish for the content to change so that characters won't be introduced that would 1/make more devoted fan happy and 2/ spin into more shows?
Why?
How is meeting Ahsoka and have her ask after Thrawn impacting your enjoyment of the show? How is the popularity of the show sparking a series for Obi-Wan and Vader, both entirely absent, preventing you from enjoying the show?
I personally found that the characters native to clone wars who joined mandalorian did it extremely well. I am still amidst Clone War, I haven't been introduced to Bo Katan yet, I didn't recognise her during her episode nor got excited for it, but that didn't impact my enjoyment of the (otherwise somewhat boring) episode. I feel like no plot element was dumbed down to accommodate future show. If you do feel that way, pls feel free to give some examples, I'm curious.

I never watched Clone Wars, so the Bo-Katan stuff is new to me, and I think developing Mandalorian culture is a great idea, and pretty much what I want to see in Season 3. The problem I had with the Ahsoka episode was that it was clearly setting up her spin-off. In a show with only 8 episodes a year, I'd rather not have backdoor pilots.

I'm happy with a lot of the new shows announced, my issue is how closely it seems like they're tying together. If Ahsoka, Mandalorian and Rangers of the New Republic all take place at the same time and share a few characters, I'd rather they were all the same series than spread across three. I'm really not a fan of the cinematic universe approach where you have to keep track of so many different shows at once to understand what's happening. Star Wars isn't there yet, not by a long way, but with all the announcements it does feel like it's headed there. Mandalorian is starting to feel like a testing ground for spin-off material, at the cost of its own narrative identity.

I also feel like Mandalorian was miss-sold. The early advertising teased a lone bounty hunter in an unexplored part of the Galaxy, far away from the events of the films. But only two seasons in, it's already become a show about Jedi/the Force. It's not bad by any means, but the production team's approach to not giving anything away led me, and others, to think we were getting a different show. With familiar characters turning up, no matter how much I enjoy them, it makes the Star Wars universe feel smaller. It feels like the days of New Jedi Order onwards when everything became about the Solo children.

While I understand they're trying to make fans happy (especially after the mixed reaction to the sequels) nostalgia doesn't do much for me. I like a few Easter eggs, I just think its overdoing it when everything has to be a callback or reference. The show keeps pulling me out of the narrative by saying 'hey look, it's that thing you like!' I'd much rather they let legacy characters take a step back and develop new ones better. Moff Gideon has the potential to be a great antagonist, and Mayfield was one of my high points of the whole show. Basically, I just want new stuff instead of retreading old ground.
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2021, 09:03:57 PM »
@Alex Hormann I don't see it as any different from Marvel where we have multiple movies and characters furthering the same timeline.

Mandalorian will be focused on retaking Mandalore. Ahsoka will focus on Thrawn hunt. Rangers of New Republic will be a standalone.

Not sure why you say the series all about force, only when less than 5 episodes iirc are actually about the force. And even in the episodes involving Force, it was only a enabler rather than plot itself.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2021, 01:03:27 AM »
@Nora have you read the new cannon Thrawn books from Zahn?

I was hoping for Benedict Cumberbatch but news says Rob Downey Jr is aiming for a big role in Mandalorian world.

FUCK RDJ. I want him nowhere near this series. He's too famous, come ON. And he is the worst possible fit for Thrawn. I'll be crying and throwing a fucking hissy fit of shameful proportions if he's selected for him. I'll genuinely cry.
I don't want new fans to come to AO3 and read my Thrawn fic picturing fucking RDJ reading the lines. T_T

And you bet I've read every single book in existence featuring Thrawn. I'm even writing a longfic following the grown up sky-walker Che'ri from Chaos Rising.
What about you, all caught up? 
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