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Author Topic: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 6 - Possible BOOK SPOILERS/Speculation  (Read 10377 times)

Offline Phil Norris

Too soon? Yeah well with casting calls already going out there is plenty of time to start conjecture and speculation for the coming (possibly) penultimate season. Also as the title says we may - old gods and new willing - have read The Winds Of Winter by the time S6 rolls around.

So first bit of clickbait was posted 4 weeks ago by WiC about casting calls that include a "pirate in his 40s and 50s"so possibly Euron Greyjoy and "father aged 50s 60s he's one of the greatest soldiers in Westeros" so possibly Lord Randyll Tarly and possibly the rest of his family.

http://winteriscoming.net/2015/05/27/game-of-thrones-season-6-casting-rumors-and-speculation/

Next - again WiC - was posted a few days ago and has various other casting calls.

http://winteriscoming.net/2015/06/19/here-are-some-more-casting-rumors-for-game-of-thrones-season-6/

So plans for S6 are well in advance if they are casting for roles they have - probably - already written parts for. If previous years can be used as a guide principle filming should start July/August. The hardest thing the showrunners will have to contend with this year will be what did/didnt happen to Jon Snow. If he is dead we should know fairly soon because Kit Harrington wont be in Northern Ireland. If he is spotted there then we will know Jon Snow survives, unless of course its a flashback scene...
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I can see the Ironborn coming into it in S6, they sidelined Asha/Yara altogether this season, the last time we saw her was her abortive rescue attempt for Theon. An advantage of using the Ironborn is that a lot of it has already been written in the books. Of course it could end up being another Dorne.
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I hope they do the Iron Islands/Ironborn better than they did Dorne - such a disappointing subplot when it should have been filled with intrigue. I wonder if they will do Victarion at all in the show? If he were following the book's plot he'd been in Slaver's Bay by now...
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Too soon?
Never too soon! Have to do something to dull the withdrawal I experience for the 40 some weeks between seasons.

I hope they do the Iron Islands/Ironborn better than they did Dorne - such a disappointing subplot when it should have been filled with intrigue. I wonder if they will do Victarion at all in the show? If he were following the book's plot he'd been in Slaver's Bay by now...

Last season's coverage of Dorne was definitely my least favorite part the show. It definitely felt shallow compared to what it could/should have been.
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Offline Phil Norris

I'm wondering if other Greyjoy's are being introduced (well at least one other) if they will amalgamate Euron and Victarion into one character, dispense with the Kingsmoot and wooing Dany storyline (not enough time left to give them full credit) and have the Iron Islanders become more embroiled in the battle for the North possibly led by Asha/Yara and her uncle. As far as we know in the show Balon is still alive so not sure what bearing he will have on the Ironborn story.

What I'm wondering as a possibility is will they do a few time lapse episodes and cover events that happened at the same time as the end episodes of S5, that way Euron/Victarion could be in Slavers Bay beginning of S6.
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Surely it makes no sense to nothave the Kingsmoot? It has two of the best monologues in the entire series and both by Euron.

I can't think of a bigger waste of valuable time than casting him as a random pirate who goes up and down Westeros. I want to believe they won't do this but after the abomination that was Dorne and the North I wouldn't put it past them.
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Most people agree that Dorne didn't really work. I find them among my least favourite scenes in the books too. That may be because they're often filtered through the port of view of Areo Hotah, and he's sleep inducing for me. I have very little interest in the Ironborn as well, but I can see the sense of including some of them in the next season, because otherwise they're like Gendry floating around out there in the bay, totally forgotten about because they couldn't work out what to do with them.
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Offline Phil Norris

I can't see the Kingsmoot working, limited time, if they did it would be a rushed job much like Jon's election to Lord Commander. For the Kingsmoot to be relevant they really needed to have kept the Ironborn in the public eye during S5, unfortunately apart from Theon the Ironborn have been given short change and not really been elevated to a level where people (non book readers) will want to know or care about them.

As for Dorne it could have been handled so much better, but it looked to have been shoehorned in just to give Jamie and Bronn something to do as their stories from the books dont exist in the show. I feel the writers/producers cottened onto the fact it was a pointless side-adventure early on as well. I mean they couldnt even get Dorne right in the opening credits where it looked to have been reduced from a vast southern country to a city called Dorne.
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I can't see the Kingsmoot working, limited time, if they did it would be a rushed job much like Jon's election to Lord Commander. For the Kingsmoot to be relevant they really needed to have kept the Ironborn in the public eye during S5, unfortunately apart from Theon the Ironborn have been given short change and not really been elevated to a level where people (non book readers) will want to know or care about them.

As for Dorne it could have been handled so much better, but it looked to have been shoehorned in just to give Jamie and Bronn something to do as their stories from the books dont exist in the show. I feel the writers/producers cottened onto the fact it was a pointless side-adventure early on as well. I mean they couldnt even get Dorne right in the opening credits where it looked to have been reduced from a vast southern country to a city called Dorne.
The only thing that worked for Dorne was the scenery in the palace, and that was because they used a wonderful place to shoot it at. Mostly it was Jaime and Bronn's Big Dorneish Adventure, and with Myrcella dying when they're not very long out of port, Jaime could conceivably turn the boat around and continue it next season.
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I'm wondering if other Greyjoy's are being introduced (well at least one other) if they will amalgamate Euron and Victarion into one character, dispense with the Kingsmoot and wooing Dany storyline (not enough time left to give them full credit) and have the Iron Islanders become more embroiled in the battle for the North possibly led by Asha/Yara and her uncle. As far as we know in the show Balon is still alive so not sure what bearing he will have on the Ironborn story.

What I'm wondering as a possibility is will they do a few time lapse episodes and cover events that happened at the same time as the end episodes of S5, that way Euron/Victarion could be in Slavers Bay beginning of S6.

I think Euron and Victarion will be amalgamated like you said.  My guess is that we hear Balon dies off screen and then have the Kingsmoot to introduce Victuron (I need to copyright that right now) with Asha/Yara being there to help the continuity.  I do wonder if he'll still head to Slaver's Bay though because didn't Daario say they were able to secure Mereen's ships in the show?  Granted I don't know the size and the state of those ships (assuming I'm even remembering right) but if that's the case Victuron isn't really needed to provide transportation.

Offline Phil Norris

Got a question about The Faceless Men mainly for the books and includes a fan theory.

Who's paying them?

If the theory surrounding Syrio Forrell is true (and he is a Faceless Man) then considering their fee who is stumping up the fee for him to take such an interest in Arya? And following on after he leaves her to move on to Oldtown?

What are they up to and who's side are they on, this also relates to who is paying them.


Part of the question can also be applied to the TV show. In an earlier season Littlefinger made a quip about it would be cheaper to hire a battalion of sellswords than one Faceless Man (I think it was season 1 and it was a Small Council meeting about killing Dany). If that is so - and their fee is so high - how could a ships captain afford them in S5 to kill the insurance merchant?
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Part of the question can also be applied to the TV show. In an earlier season Littlefinger made a quip about it would be cheaper to hire a battalion of sellswords than one Faceless Man (I think it was season 1 and it was a Small Council meeting about killing Dany). If that is so - and their fee is so high - how could a ships captain afford them in S5 to kill the insurance merchant?

It's been awhile since I read the book (since they come out so infrequently) but I always got the impression that the Faceless Men also do "pro-bono" work (like lawyers!) where they will kill particularly egregious folks for the common good. So, I got the impression that Arya's order to kill that merchant was both a public service (since he was preying on hapless captains) and a test to see if she'd follow orders.

I'm just speculating, of course, but it seems like the Faceless Men have an agenda beyond simply taking contracts. They also have their own goals and will take actions on their own for reasons unknown.
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Offline Phil Norris

So does Kit Harrington turning up at Wimbledon with long hair actually mean what we suspect it means?
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So does Kit Harrington turning up at Wimbledon with long hair actually mean what we suspect it means?

He might have kept it because it's a nice hairstyle but I do hope it means what everybody suspects. Besides, Melisandre must have had a good reason to go back to the Wall.

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So, um, looks like we'll be having eight season at least. If this website is credible. Thoughts?
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