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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2015, 09:03:17 PM »
I'm really angry that Aegon won't be present in the show. He's very important in the end.

Is he? His importance in my mind by the end of ADwD seemed a bit vague and there is still some question as to whether he is who people claim him to be. I'm firmly in the he's a fake camp in the same way the fake Arya is married to Ramsay Bolton. Plus despite recent rumours of 10 seasons & a movie I do think the producers have had to do some serious culling to the book cast and I dont think they would have culled a character IF he was so important to the outcome of the books.
In terms of the show I think they may have a problem if they randomly introduce this character who is VERY important to the overall scheme of things in S5. They've established their main cast now, and I think they'll stick with it until the end. I tend to rank Aegon in importance with Edric Storm, who also never appeared in the TV show.

Never appeared and replaced by Gendry. I do think the Aegon arc will be/has been cut simply because not enough time has been allocated to building that side of the mythos up. We know about the Targaryan children being killed by Gregor but that was to establish the Red Viper and his hatred for the Lannisters. I think with Jamie & Bronn heading to Dorne the Martell's will be more of a direct threat the the Lannister masterplan rather than being involved in some long game to bring Aegon back.

Plus in the books I never got why Varys/Illios invested so much in Daenerys if they also had Aegon.
Well, they say don't put all your eggs in one basket right? So yeah, put money on Aegon, but also have Daenerys as a back up. Or the other way around. Either way, you back whoever becomes strongest, or unite the two and have them marry like the targaryens normally do.

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Re: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 5 - WITH BOOK SPOILERS
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2015, 09:09:59 PM »
Ok, it's official. I hardly remember anything from the deep political plots of the books, 3-5 years after reading 4-5 :'(
And this means I should get down from my silly high horse and just watch the *%^$£ tv series ::)

(although the 2 have a perfect connection in my brain: it's exactly because I can't remember that I don't want to get influenced by what they show on tv and then think that's what happened in the books. I am definitely not in the mood currently to re-read them, even if only 3-4, or 4-5 :-\)
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Re: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 5 - WITH BOOK SPOILERS
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2015, 10:48:02 PM »
Ok, it's official. I hardly remember anything from the deep political plots of the books, 3-5 years after reading 4-5 :'(
And this means I should get down from my silly high horse and just watch the *%^$£ tv series ::)

(although the 2 have a perfect connection in my brain: it's exactly because I can't remember that I don't want to get influenced by what they show on tv and then think that's what happened in the books. I am definitely not in the mood currently to re-read them, even if only 3-4, or 4-5 :-\)
Be a there are a few places that give you precis on what has happened in the books and that means that you can brush up and not reread the whole thing. I'd recommend Tower of the Hand, that's a kind of an online ASoIaF encyclopedia. I also think Tor.com are doing one of their rereads, but they're up to A Dance with Dragons.

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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2015, 09:02:34 PM »
Just putting this out there to speculate over however you wish.

According to WninterIsComing a major spoiler/tease has been leaked about two characters many thought had been cut from S5.

http://winteriscoming.net/2015/03/30/game-of-thrones-season-5-rumors-to-griff-or-not-to-griff/

The tease comes from Nikolaj Coster-Waldau but after Lena Headey's "stone heart" last year he could just be messing with us as well, you know what these Lannister's are like,

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Re: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 5 - WITH BOOK SPOILERS
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2015, 11:21:40 PM »
Just putting this out there to speculate over however you wish.

According to WninterIsComing a major spoiler/tease has been leaked about two characters many thought had been cut from S5.

http://winteriscoming.net/2015/03/30/game-of-thrones-season-5-rumors-to-griff-or-not-to-griff/

The tease comes from Nikolaj Coster-Waldau but after Lena Headey's "stone heart" last year he could just be messing with us as well, you know what these Lannister's are like,
I recently saw Nikolaj Coster-Waldau in an early role as the villain in My Name is Modesty (it was a Modesty Blaise origin film that Miramar made on the cheap so that they could retain the rights in case Tarantino ever wanted to film it). It struck me as I watched, that he'd make a great Willie Garvin (also from Modesty Blaise) if he could just get the cockney accent right. He's been a real find for the show. Has wonderful comic timing. I just love his line from an earlier season (may have been 3?) when Qyburn has to fix his stump and offers him milk of the poppy which he declines. Qyburn: 'It's going to hurt.'
Jaime: 'I'll scream.'
Q: 'It's going to hurt a lot.'
J: 'I'll scream very loudly.'
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Re: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 5 - WITH BOOK SPOILERS
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2015, 07:36:18 PM »
So, it's tomorrow (or today, I think, for our american friends).
I've set it to record: whether I'll actually watch it or not is still to be decided... probably right at the end, watch it in a few concentrated days.
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Re: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 5 - WITH BOOK SPOILERS
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2015, 12:17:26 AM »
So, it's tomorrow (or today, I think, for our american friends).
I've set it to record: whether I'll actually watch it or not is still to be decided... probably right at the end, watch it in a few concentrated days.

I will definitely be watching tonight. Less than two hours to go and getting ready to finish our Season 4 re-watch (1 episode left) just before season 5 premiers.
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Re: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 5 - WITH BOOK SPOILERS
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2015, 12:26:44 AM »
My wife and I are planning to be in pajamas, dog on the bed, TV on, watching.  ;D

Update, no spoilers.

Very fun. I'm no purest on this one, folks. I like the show and the books.
As a show, very fun. Of course, we had to visit with, what, 129 main characters?  ;)
We are living in a time when there is so much great fantasy that maybe we're almost a bit spoiled. Awesome show whether it's exact to book or whether GRRM ever finishes.
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Re: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 5 - WITH BOOK SPOILERS
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2015, 09:52:20 PM »
The deviations are starting: I don't think that was Rattleshirt under a glimmer burning alive.
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Re: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 5 - WITH BOOK SPOILERS
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2015, 12:32:00 AM »
There will be more and further deviations, and I for one, don't mind them. Tonight's was really just a catch up with what everyone's doing and where they are, just putting the wheels in motion. Next week will cover some of the characters we didn't see this time (the little bit at the end with flashes of next week showed at least one main character that didn't appear this week). The CGI with the dragons was very good.
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« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2015, 04:09:40 PM »
Does anyone get the feeling that Lady Stoneheart is coming soon? I do. :)

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Re: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 5 - WITH BOOK SPOILERS
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2015, 01:05:28 AM »
Does anyone get the feeling that Lady Stoneheart is coming soon? I do. :)
The little bit from next week with Pod in the forest? I wondered about that.
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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2015, 02:18:59 PM »
The little bit from next week with Pod in the forest? I wondered about that.

Maybe not next week, but sometime this season? I feel like they can't parade Brienne and Pod around all season like they did The Hound and Arya. I also read somewhere that the final episode of the season is called "Hooded Woman." It's anyone's guess if that's true or not.

Here's to hoping! :D


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Re: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 5 - WITH BOOK SPOILERS
« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2015, 01:08:18 AM »
The little bit from next week with Pod in the forest? I wondered about that.

Maybe not next week, but sometime this season? I feel like they can't parade Brienne and Pod around all season like they did The Hound and Arya. I also read somewhere that the final episode of the season is called "Hooded Woman." It's anyone's guess if that's true or not.

Here's to hoping! :D


They managed to do it in A Feast for Crows.
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Re: Game Of Thrones (TV Show) Season 5 - WITH BOOK SPOILERS
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2015, 09:35:40 PM »
Okay. I am throwing my books out of the window. This is now following some very different paths to the books.  Though thank god Briene has actually found both Arya and Sansa, not sure I could have coped with a whole series of her and iPod traipsing up and down Westeros, before running into Samwell Tarly's obnoxious father. And where are Littlefinger and Sansa off to?  Even in the latest revealed chapter from Winds of Winter she is still in the bloody Eyrie!  Also pleased to see Tyrion nowhere near a canal boat so far. 

I am assuming we are supposing that Jame is taking the Ser Aerys plot for A Feast of Crows (and wouldn't be surprised if he gets some lovin' from a Sand snake - HBO need their skin for the series.)  Excellent casting of Alexander Siddig as Prince Doran- a very underrated actor.

Dany's plot is still tediously dull though - only Drogon livened things up.  And this time she has no envoys from Dorne or the Greyjoys to await (I assume ....) she is just going to be attempting to rule Meereen till Tyrion shows up.  (One way of avoiding of the Meereenese knot!) 

What else? The offer Stannis makes Jon Snow is curiously underplayed.  Does the TV series not realise what a big deal this was?  Also interesting they did a way with the Sam rigging the votes plot (though guess it would have slowed things down.)  Also is Sam not going to be heading off to Old Town? That was also another curious side  plot from the books that seemed to go nowhere.  (Remember someone taking on the persona of Pate - sinister dark magics? - all a blur now!)

Will let Arry post about Arya and Jaqen H’Ghar - let her have her fangirl squeal. 

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