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Offline Overlord

'Avatar' didn't change the World as we'd hoped... Did it?
« on: December 11, 2015, 01:36:58 PM »
Interesting article here on 2009's Avatar movie and how it didn't do everything we, fans and movie goers, expected it to:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/avatar/james-cameron-box-office-cultural-impact/

I can't believe sequel isn't until Dec 2017... =/ I'm sure they were saying there would be two sequels within two/three years when it was first released... It'll be 8 years between the first and second, should it not be delayed any further >.<
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Re: 'Avatar' didn't change the World as we'd hoped... Did it?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2015, 02:08:16 PM »
I came out of that movie being hugely disappointed. All that hype in advance and then it still was just a very bland and mediocre standard sci-fi movie. It was pretty, but that really was the only positive thing about the whole thing.
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Offline ultamentkiller

Re: 'Avatar' didn't change the World as we'd hoped... Did it?
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2015, 10:41:45 PM »
I liked it, but it was very preachy. It was all about the environment in the end. And from the looks of it, the sequels won't be going any deeper. Maybe this next one will be referencing offshore oil drilling.

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Re: 'Avatar' didn't change the World as we'd hoped... Did it?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2015, 01:29:39 AM »
I didn't really consider the movie thinking I just watched something earth-shattering.  Instead I came out thinking it was enjoyable for what it was and that I would maybe watch it again when it was on basic cable.  I think the whole culture changing talk when the movie came out was just really good PR work.

The article does mention that it's lasting impact probably is bringing back 3D which for me is more of a negative than positive thing.

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Re: 'Avatar' didn't change the World as we'd hoped... Did it?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2015, 05:12:35 AM »
I liked it, but it was very preachy. It was all about the environment in the end. And from the looks of it, the sequels won't be going any deeper. Maybe this next one will be referencing offshore oil drilling.

Exactly what I think. I liked it, but it had too much ideology in it. I'm glad it failed to live up to the hype.
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Re: 'Avatar' didn't change the World as we'd hoped... Did it?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2015, 03:04:39 PM »
the rendering tech was cool.

the story was copy-paste pocahontas.

there were actually people who thought 3d movies and television were going to be more than novelty.

the sequels should be delayed forever.

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2015, 03:07:37 PM »
oh.  i should put this somewhere.


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Re: 'Avatar' didn't change the World as we'd hoped... Did it?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2015, 04:53:59 PM »
@m3mnoch, classic! I was going to say that Avatar was just a remake of Ferngully.

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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2015, 05:27:33 PM »
It's a rippoff of a rippoff of a rippoff.

And apparently the great vision and lifelong dream of James Cameron.
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Re: 'Avatar' didn't change the World as we'd hoped... Did it?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2015, 09:50:38 AM »
Well, i won't throw a stone at Cameron for spending his life dreaming about Pocahontas in space. I thought the movie cool in its rather brain dead entertainment quality.
I definitely saw the Pocahontas scenario play out in real time - so there were no surprises at any stage - but I remember having been blown away by the 3D like never before - or after.

I'm actually pretty curious to see the sequel, see if originality will buil in any way, since I find the Pandora world quite interesting, visually. I think it's a bit of a geek gamer dream. I'd spend some hours in a first person exploration mode on this planet...
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Re: 'Avatar' didn't change the World as we'd hoped... Did it?
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2016, 04:09:16 PM »
The story had me rolling my eyes but it's the first time that 3D was used to its fullest potential and made the visuals very immersive.
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Re: 'Avatar' didn't change the World as we'd hoped... Did it?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2016, 04:27:51 PM »
As somebody who's heavily involved with 3D I found the visual impressive but, I don't actually remember anything else about that movie. I think Sigourney was in it and there was a large tree made up of dead spirits. That's about it.


I have fonder memories of the Starship Troopers animated movie than Avatar.


Wasn't there also a cartoon called Battle for Terra that was extremely similar?
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