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Title: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Hedin on August 24, 2015, 03:41:50 AM
#5 - Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson

(http://www.lacatron.com/wp-content/uploads/Mistborn-Trilogy.jpg)

VS

#28 - Black Magician by Trudi Canavan

(https://parchmentplace.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/the-black-magician-tilogy.png)

Please select the book which you like best among the choices.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Raptori on August 24, 2015, 08:32:42 AM
I've only read Mistborn, and since I really enjoyed it I'll be voting for that. It's not perfect, but it's great fun.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: vgunn on August 24, 2015, 10:42:16 AM
Very cool magic system in Mistborn. However, I LOVE the way Trudi writes and these books grabbed me more than Sandersons.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: JMack on August 24, 2015, 11:30:22 AM
Haven't read Black Magician.
But I've read Mistborn. It ain't perfect, but it's pretty interesting.

And those covers for Black Magcician? Wow, what meh.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Hedin on August 24, 2015, 01:06:39 PM
And those covers for Black Magcician? Wow, what meh.

I did see another variant that looked better but the one used was the best image I could find of all three together.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: ultamentkiller on August 24, 2015, 03:12:01 PM
I've only read Mistbourne, so that's my choice.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: ScarletBea on August 24, 2015, 05:52:19 PM
Oh gosh, this one is hard for me.
I loved Mistborn.
I loved Black Magician.

Which one had the best writing? I think Trudi writes (wrote?) best.
Which one had the best magic system? Mistborn, hands down.
Which one had less characters I wanted to slap? Black Magician.
Which one had more unexpected plot twists? I think both are on a par...

Then because I think most people will vote Mistborn and that one will continue in the battle, I'll vote now for Black Magician and leave my Mistborn vote for later.

(note: if my Mistborn had those covers, I don't think I would have read them, hehe)
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Hedin on August 25, 2015, 01:36:30 AM
So I haven't read Black Magician so normally I couldn't vote for this.  However I am evoking my "Its ok to vote if one of your choices is one of your absolute favorites" clause and vote for Mistborn.  In many ways, Mistborn was a gateway drug for me when it comes to my fantasy reading.  I used to read mostly military fiction when one of my roommates convinced me to try Harry Potter.  A couple years later I read a review of A Feast of Crows (only later did I realize that the review was misleading) and that opened my horizons a bit more.  Then later when I heard that Sanderson was taking over from Jordan I decided to give him a try and started with Mistborn.  If a first time fantasy reader asks me for a suggestion more than likely I will recommend Mistborn to them.  While I know some people have some issues with Sanderson's prose I find it easily accessible and his writing is always very entertaining. 
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Lady Ty on August 25, 2015, 02:15:06 AM
(note: if my Mistborn had those covers, I don't think I would have read them, hehe)

Agree Agree ;D ;D Luckily mine had these 

(http://www.eatseekplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/mistborn.png)

and I loved the whole concept of allomancy and the unusual different races, so Mistborn gets my vote here.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Hedin on August 25, 2015, 02:36:54 AM
(note: if my Mistborn had those covers, I don't think I would have read them, hehe)

Agree Agree ;D ;D Luckily mine had these 

(http://www.eatseekplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/mistborn.png)

and I loved the whole concept of allomancy and the unusual different races, so Mistborn gets my vote here.

I don't like those covers at all, the ones I posted are the ones I am used to.  I did kind of like this set though: 

(http://bennitheblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mistborn-hardcover.jpg)
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Lady Ty on August 25, 2015, 03:28:03 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D  @Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543) Fantasy Faction Battle of the Book Covers next  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Hedin on August 25, 2015, 03:32:54 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D  @Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543) Fantasy Faction Battle of the Book Covers next  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I did think of that when I was looking at covers last night.  I think it might be something that is too subjective but I'll be willing to give it a go at some point if there is enough interest.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Elfy on August 25, 2015, 06:07:18 AM

(note: if my Mistborn had those covers, I don't think I would have read them, hehe)
Yeah, the Black Magician ones are boring (hooded person, yawn), but the Mistborn ones are just nasty. They certainly wouldn't inspire me to pick up the books.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: DrNefario on August 25, 2015, 01:36:49 PM
I enjoyed the Black Magician series, and I've only read two-thirds of Mistborn, but I think my vote is still going to the latter.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: ultamentkiller on August 26, 2015, 04:31:13 AM
Two thirds? There's 4 books you crazy human! Did you do your math that precisely to figure it out? :P
And you other humans, judging a book by its cover. You should be ashamed. I'll just stick with my blind fellows from now on. We don't have that luxury. :P
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: ScarletBea on August 26, 2015, 07:47:10 AM
Two thirds? There's 4 books you crazy human! Did you do your math that precisely to figure it out? :P
I'm pretty sure Mistborn is only 3 books :P
Where did you find the 4th?
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: CameronJohnston on August 26, 2015, 08:31:41 AM
Mistborn and I really did not see eye to eye, so I'll vote for Black Magician series.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Raptori on August 26, 2015, 09:21:03 AM
Two thirds? There's 4 books you crazy human! Did you do your math that precisely to figure it out? :P
And you other humans, judging a book by its cover. You should be ashamed. I'll just stick with my blind fellows from now on. We don't have that luxury. :P
Alloy of Law doesn't really count - it's the beginning of a separate series even though it's in the same world.  :P
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: DrNefario on August 26, 2015, 01:18:47 PM
Two thirds? There's 4 books you crazy human! Did you do your math that precisely to figure it out? :P
And you other humans, judging a book by its cover. You should be ashamed. I'll just stick with my blind fellows from now on. We don't have that luxury. :P
Alloy of Law doesn't really count - it's the beginning of a separate series even though it's in the same world.  :P
I did think about mentioning Alloy of Law, but then decided there was no need. Foolishly. :)
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: m3mnoch on August 26, 2015, 02:53:09 PM
Two thirds? There's 4 books you crazy human! Did you do your math that precisely to figure it out? :P
And you other humans, judging a book by its cover. You should be ashamed. I'll just stick with my blind fellows from now on. We don't have that luxury. :P
Alloy of Law doesn't really count - it's the beginning of a separate series even though it's in the same world.  :P

not to mention alloy of law is WAY better.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Raptori on August 26, 2015, 02:57:58 PM
Two thirds? There's 4 books you crazy human! Did you do your math that precisely to figure it out? :P
And you other humans, judging a book by its cover. You should be ashamed. I'll just stick with my blind fellows from now on. We don't have that luxury. :P
Alloy of Law doesn't really count - it's the beginning of a separate series even though it's in the same world.  :P

not to mention alloy of law is WAY better.
I disagree - usually I like Sanderson's novellas more than the novels, but didn't really enjoy AoL all that much. Guess it's because I didn't particularly like the characters, and it felt so shallow even compared to the trilogy.  :-\ The Emperor's Soul, however, is the best. I shall be voting for that in the standalones battle.  :P
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: ultamentkiller on August 26, 2015, 04:22:32 PM
I have yet to read Alloy of Law, so I wouldn't know. And technically, I don't think it's the beginning of his new series. That first book comes out in a couple months. It's a stand alone.
Pushing through Elantris before I get there, since it's a cosmere novel. It's so hard though...
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: m3mnoch on August 26, 2015, 04:45:42 PM
the emperor's soul was really good.

legion is also really, really good.

and, yeah, holler if you make it through elantris.  i started it once and bailed after, like, page 20.  it's on my list of things to get back to.  if only to better understand the world from the emperor's soul.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Raptori on August 26, 2015, 06:15:04 PM
I have yet to read Alloy of Law, so I wouldn't know. And technically, I don't think it's the beginning of his new series. That first book comes out in a couple months. It's a stand alone.
Alloy of Law was a stand alone, but he decided to carry it on... with an entire unplanned trilogy. There were supposed to be two more Mistborn trilogies - one with 1980s technology, one with space age technology - but now there's the new one following Wax and Wayne. It'll continue some of the storylines introduced in AoL, so I at least consider them direct sequels.  :P

Pushing through Elantris before I get there, since it's a cosmere novel. It's so hard though...
and, yeah, holler if you make it through elantris.  i started it once and bailed after, like, page 20.  it's on my list of things to get back to.  if only to better understand the world from the emperor's soul.
Elantris was a bit of a chore, really don't understand people who like it the most out of the cosmere. If I'd read that one first, I don't think I'd have touched another Sanderson book. It doesn't touch on the area explored in the Emperor's Soul though, so you wouldn't really learn much (if anything) that you couldn't have worked out from that.  :-\
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Elfy on August 26, 2015, 10:37:02 PM
Elantris was the first Sanderson I read. It was okay, nothing special for sure. I started to read Mistborn and honestly couldn't see that he'd improved a whole lot, so gave up about halfway through the second book. Just not my thing.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Raptori on August 26, 2015, 10:47:05 PM
Elantris was the first Sanderson I read. It was okay, nothing special for sure. I started to read Mistborn and honestly couldn't see that he'd improved a whole lot, so gave up about halfway through the second book. Just not my thing.
Yeah Mistborn had a lot of the same flaws, particularly in terms of characters. It's not until Stormlight that he's started to create deeper and more interesting characters, and even there they're nothing exceptional. The difference between Elantris and Mistborn for me was that the world was a little more interesting, and that the story progressed and climaxed in a much more satisfying way.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: ScarletBea on August 27, 2015, 01:36:15 AM
Warbreaker was my first Sanderson book, I was looking for stand-alones at the time, I think.
Then I read Mistborn, which was great in terms of magic system, but had some flaws in terms of characters/plot.
I haven't read any more of his books to date, but plan to read the Stormlight ones.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: ultamentkiller on August 27, 2015, 03:40:34 AM
I agree with what's been said before. Stormlight is absolutely his best work.
And I wrongly assumed Alloy of Law was a stand alone. I didn't realize it had the same characters. I forget google exists sometimes.
Title: Re: FFBB: Favourite Series - Mistborn vs Black Magician
Post by: Victoria Hooper on August 30, 2015, 05:29:45 PM
I've read both series and enjoyed both, but Black Magician is a personal favourite of mine and definitely gets my vote.  :)

There seem to be a few people here who haven't read the Black Magician books, so I'm gonna give it a quick recommendation. The heroine in it is actually quite similar to Vin from the Mistborn series, and I think if you enjoyed Mistborn you will like this. I think of both Sanderson and Canavan as 'magic book people' - they both write plots where magic is very important to the story and characters, and where magic is explored in more depth than in other books. The magic system in Black Magician is really interesting and I loved it, though it isn't as intricately detailed and laid out as Sanderson's (not many are!). I think Trudi Canavan is brilliant at writing magic. The characters are also fun and there are some good story twists - just like with Mistborn, things aren't always what they seem.

So, hopefully that will inspire some new readers to try the series, and hope you enjoy it if you do!