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Title: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 17, 2015, 04:30:26 AM
I would like to welcome and introduce everyone to our first (of what we hope will be several) Fantasy-Faction Book Battles.  As you can see from the topic title our first competition is going to be for our Favourite Series.  Now we all have different opinions on not only what our favourite series might be, if you look over at the nomination thread you will see we had an overwhelming number of nominations.  I have totaled up all of the nominations and with a committee consisting of Lady_Ty, ScarletBea, Raptorie, Jmack, and myself we came with individual seedings and then combined it with your nomination totals to create the bracket you see below.  We all recognize that this list is not inclusive and that for many of you your actual favourite series may not be listed, but we tried to be as inclusive as we could with the nominations received.

How this will work is quite simple.  Each week I will post 2-4 matchups (depending on the round) to vote on.  All you have to do in each poll is to vote for your favourite series of the two that are listed in the poll.  I would encourage anyone who votes to discuss in the thread the two series and advocate for your pick.  Because of the nature of the voting and the threads, please consider the discussions to contain spoilers.

I hope everyone enjoys this little competition, and please remember this is just for fun and not any special meaning.  We have other competition ideas (i.e. Standalones or Sci-Fi) but if you have any suggestions on future competitions please do not hesitate to PM me.

The Bracket:

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/333fl3r.jpg)

Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 17, 2015, 04:40:46 AM
Could a mod sticky this thread?

Also, I'm going to pretty up the voting threads a bit later.  The wireless connection in my hotel room makes me long for the days of 56k and I don't have the patience to look up everything I want to.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on August 17, 2015, 05:29:29 AM
Going to sleep now, but I'll photoshop the F-F logo in once I'm up again if nobody else gets to it first.  ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on August 17, 2015, 10:36:22 AM
Going to sleep now, but I'll photoshop the F-F logo in once I'm up again if nobody else gets to it first.  ;)
I don't think you are working nights, and still you are going to sleep at 7:30 AM? Why on earth?  :o ;)

Well, I gave it a shot in GIMP but can't attach the file to my post for some reason (the file size isn't too large and I tried different formats). :-\ :(

I found a logo with a transparent background and tried to use two drop shadows to make it stand out from the white background of the bracket image, but it didn't work quite as well as I would have liked. So it doesn't really matter if I don't get it to show here because, as a professional, you, Raptori, will no doubt make a much prettier one.  :)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on August 17, 2015, 11:46:19 AM
@Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543), here is one case where I htink we need to turn ON the "see the results right after you vote" feature of the polls. I think it would be a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on August 17, 2015, 11:53:18 AM
@Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543), here is one case where I htink we need to turn ON the "see the results right after you vote" feature of the polls. I think it would be a lot of fun.
Agree :D
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Lady Ty on August 17, 2015, 12:30:36 PM
@Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543), here is one case where I htink we need to turn ON the "see the results right after you vote" feature of the polls. I think it would be a lot of fun.
Agree :D

+1
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 17, 2015, 01:09:22 PM
The question that has come up is how you should vote if you haven't read one of the series in the poll.   

Scenario #1 -  You have read one series and it's a legitimate favorite but have not read the other.

In this case where one of your legitimate favorite series is in the poll go ahead and vote for it.   We all want our favorites to move on and so I have no issue if you vote that way.

Scenario #2 - You have read one series and it's OK but would not consider it one of your favorites.

This is a bit of a grey area as it deals with degrees of likes and dislikes but personally I would abstain in this case.

Scenario #3 -  You haven't read any of the series.

This is a pretty obvious don't vote.

Scenario #4 -  You have only read one series and really disliked it.

Another tricky area but I would also abstain because you may dislike the other series more.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 17, 2015, 01:10:07 PM
@Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543), here is one case where I htink we need to turn ON the "see the results right after you vote" feature of the polls. I think it would be a lot of fun.
Agree :D

+1

I wanted to see how it felt to be as mean as xiagen.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Doctor_Chill on August 17, 2015, 01:10:56 PM
@Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543), here is one case where I htink we need to turn ON the "see the results right after you vote" feature of the polls. I think it would be a lot of fun.
Agree :D

+1

I wanted to see how it felt to be as mean as @xiagen

+5

I see we have the next Presidential candidate. ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on August 17, 2015, 01:24:25 PM
Going to sleep now, but I'll photoshop the F-F logo in once I'm up again if nobody else gets to it first.  ;)
I don't think you are working nights, and still you are going to sleep at 7:30 AM? Why on earth?  :o ;)

Well, I gave it a shot in GIMP but can't attach the file to my post for some reason (the file size isn't too large and I tried different formats). :-\ :(

I found a logo with a transparent background and tried to use two drop shadows to make it stand out from the white background of the bracket image, but it didn't work quite as well as I would have liked. So it doesn't really matter if I don't get it to show here because, as a professional, you, Raptori, will no doubt make a much prettier one.  :)
Because we're awesome?  ???

We have free-running sleep disorder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep%E2%80%93wake_disorder) - our internal clocks think the day should be 26-28 hours long. We try to force ourselves to sleep like regular people, but it's difficult and sometimes it slips...  :P

I couldn't find a transparent version of the logo (though admittedly I didn't look too hard), so instead I put the standard one on and changed the colour scheme of the table to match. Wanted to keep it quick since we'll have to do this every time. Hopefully that's ok!
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 17, 2015, 01:33:16 PM
Awesome, nice job.  If you can send me the link I can put it into the first post.

Also, we need likes in this area.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on August 17, 2015, 01:38:50 PM
@Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543), here is one case where I htink we need to turn ON the "see the results right after you vote" feature of the polls. I think it would be a lot of fun.
Agree :D

+1

I wanted to see how it felt to be as mean as @xiagan (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1148)

+5

I see we have the next Presidential candidate. ;)
+a really big number for the comments :D
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on August 17, 2015, 01:42:34 PM
I couldn't find a transparent version of the logo (though admittedly I didn't look too hard), so instead I put the standard one on and changed the colour scheme of the table to match. Wanted to keep it quick since we'll have t do this every time. Hopefully that's ok!
That's cheating! But looks cool.  ;D

Going to sleep now, but I'll photoshop the F-F logo in once I'm up again if nobody else gets to it first.  ;)
I don't think you are working nights, and still you are going to sleep at 7:30 AM? Why on earth?  :o ;)
Because we're awesome?  ???

We have free-running sleep disorder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep%E2%80%93wake_disorder) - our internal clocks think the day should be 26-28 hours long. We try to force ourselves to sleep like regular people, but it's difficult and sometimes it slips...  :P
Oh, I know someone who has a similar problem (if you think it as a problem), and he's really struggling to maintain a "normal" sleep rhythm.

And you are awesome.  :)

Awesome, nice job.  If you can send me the link I can put it into the first post.
Just right-click the image and select Copy Image Location and then you can just paste it there.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on August 17, 2015, 01:53:53 PM
I couldn't find a transparent version of the logo (though admittedly I didn't look too hard), so instead I put the standard one on and changed the colour scheme of the table to match. Wanted to keep it quick since we'll have t do this every time. Hopefully that's ok!
That's cheating! But looks cool.  ;D

I've always looked for the fastest and easiest way to complete an assignment. Means I get to call myself "efficient" even though I procrastinate.  8)

Going to sleep now, but I'll photoshop the F-F logo in once I'm up again if nobody else gets to it first.  ;)
I don't think you are working nights, and still you are going to sleep at 7:30 AM? Why on earth?  :o ;)
Because we're awesome?  ???

We have free-running sleep disorder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep%E2%80%93wake_disorder) - our internal clocks think the day should be 26-28 hours long. We try to force ourselves to sleep like regular people, but it's difficult and sometimes it slips...  :P
Oh, I know someone who has a similar problem (if you think it as a problem), and he's really struggling to maintain a "normal" sleep rhythm.

And you are awesome.  :)

Yeah it's not really a big problem if you don't have to go out to work or anything like that. When we're up at normal hours the day feels a lot longer and we're a lot more productive, so we try to stay as close to normal sleeping times as possible, but it never lasts forever...
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 17, 2015, 02:10:57 PM
Changed the the voting thread names so you know what you are voting for.  Still need to pretty up the first post but have to go do this pesky thing called work now.

Also, decided to be the anti-xiagen and allow you all to see the vote counts after you have voted.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on August 17, 2015, 02:14:03 PM
This is *so* cool!!! :D

Thanks so much for this idea, Hedin!!

(I tried to find a 'good idea' cake - there was nothing but I found this, and just have to share with you, hehe - yes, you eat it!)
(http://www.babysavers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Professional-lego-cake-idea.jpg)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Doctor_Chill on August 17, 2015, 02:20:45 PM
You guys and gals want me to post this in the Facebook group? See if it gains some traction? Or would that sway it too close to a popularity vote based on a high population v. low discussion rate?
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on August 17, 2015, 02:26:25 PM
I'd say share it as widely as possible, since one of the hopes is that it'd bring more people to the forum - can't really do that without spreading the word!
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Doctor_Chill on August 17, 2015, 02:35:22 PM
Done and done. :)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Lady Ty on August 17, 2015, 02:39:44 PM
@ScarletBea (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32020) that is a top cake, it's glorious. I might steal that image to use somewhere else. ;)

and Hedin/Raptori thanks for new headings and showing votes, that makes it much more fun.

@Doctor_Chill (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14655), I think we wanted to put it on FB to attract more members to actually join the Forum. At present you can't vote unless you're signed in, same as posting etc, which means if it's publicised there they will need   to sign up to join in, which is only fair. F-F  is on Twitter too can we have it sent out on the official @FantasyFaction ?
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on August 17, 2015, 05:29:23 PM
There are so many votes, and comments just from 'the usual suspects'.

Voters, pleeeeease, communicate with us! ;D
(if only to say "I voted X because I think it's awesome" 8) )
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 17, 2015, 06:04:58 PM
@ScarletBea (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32020) that is a top cake, it's glorious. I might steal that image to use somewhere else. ;)

and Hedin/Raptori thanks for new headings and showing votes, that makes it much more fun.

@Doctor_Chill (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14655), I think we wanted to put it on FB to attract more members to actually join the Forum. At present you can't vote unless you're signed in, same as posting etc, which means if it's publicised there they will need   to sign up to join in, which is only fair. F-F  is on Twitter too can we have it sent out on the official @FantasyFaction ?

As far as Twitter goes I tweeted it last night and the main account (plus a few others) retweeted it.   I did mean to join the FB group but slow Internet made me give up but Chilly covered that already it seems.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 19, 2015, 04:33:06 AM
Who do I have to harass to get Likes added to this area?
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Doctor_Chill on August 19, 2015, 04:37:47 AM
Who do I have to harass to get Likes added to this area?

Arry, but you didn't hear that from me. :-X
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 19, 2015, 05:08:08 AM
Who do I have to harass to get Likes added to this area?

Arry, but you didn't hear that from me. :-X

Hear what?
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Lady Ty on August 20, 2015, 02:44:41 AM
Many thanks @Arry (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=8809) we're pretty Likes-dependent here but it's not a dangerous addiction . :D
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 21, 2015, 03:22:42 PM
Looks like the vote totals are slowing down.  Will put out another Twitter and FB blast tonight or tomorrow and see if we can get some people in over the weekend.  New polls will be up Sunday night US time.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on August 21, 2015, 03:48:15 PM
Interesting that none of the battles so far are even close.
But round 2 should be tough, when these easy winners have to start facing off.   :)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on August 21, 2015, 03:50:51 PM
Interesting that none of the battles so far are even close.
But round 2 should be tough, when these easy winners have to start facing off.   :)
Yeah, the closest one - accordign to the seedings - should've been Powder Mage vs ASOIAF. Just goes to show that the nominations were a bit skewed!  :P
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on August 21, 2015, 04:13:58 PM
Interesting that none of the battles so far are even close.
But round 2 should be tough, when these easy winners have to start facing off.   :)
Yeah, the closest one - accordinn to the seedings - should've been Powder Mage vs ASOIAF. Just goes to show that the nominations were a bit skewed!  :P

Not based on my proposed seedings.  ;D
But, hey, it's all good; and it so much fun to have this going on!
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 21, 2015, 04:42:15 PM
Interesting that none of the battles so far are even close.
But round 2 should be tough, when these easy winners have to start facing off.   :)

Blood will be spilled in Round 2.  I'm almost giddy just thinking about the possible matchups.  And then I'm really looking for a possible Hobb show off in Round 3 as the nomination totals for those two were really close.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on August 21, 2015, 05:22:14 PM
Do you mean round 2/3 as after all the votes on these first 32? Or the next weeks in this first step?
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 21, 2015, 05:27:03 PM
Do you mean round 2/3 as after all the votes on these first 32? Or the next weeks in this first step?

Yeah, Round of 16 and Round of 8.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on August 21, 2015, 05:30:28 PM
Ah ok.
We've only done 4 of the first 16 matches... can you please put a higher number for next week? Otherwise we'll spend ages just doing this first round. I think 8 votes next week is completely feasible.
Or 6 next week and another 6 the next, that's actually better.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: eclipse on August 21, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
Interesting that none of the battles so far are even close.
But round 2 should be tough, when these easy winners have to start facing off.   :)

We both know Eli should have won  ;D
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ultamentkiller on August 23, 2015, 04:17:07 PM
Hell, why not put all of the match-ups in one week. I guess the page would get cluttered... But still. Maybe 7 this week. That way, we only have a month to go.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Idlewilder on August 23, 2015, 04:25:55 PM
Hell, why not put all of the match-ups in one week. I guess the page would get cluttered... But still. Maybe 7 this week. That way, we only have a month to go.

Why rush it though? It's good fun and has got the forum pretty busy this last week.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Doctor_Chill on August 23, 2015, 04:38:14 PM
Hell, why not put all of the match-ups in one week. I guess the page would get cluttered... But still. Maybe 7 this week. That way, we only have a month to go.

Why rush it though? It's good fun and has got the forum pretty busy this last week.

That's been my sentiment. Slow and steady wins the race. (Puns haha)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 24, 2015, 04:26:17 AM
All new polls are up, go vote!
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Lady Ty on August 24, 2015, 06:05:55 AM
Thanks for putting up all the covers this round, great idea @Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543). We seem to have gathered in a fairly good number of votes for the first brackets, hope we'll get more as it get more intense.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ClintACK on August 24, 2015, 06:34:21 AM
Wow, rounds M and N are going to be painful.   :o

How do you even begin to compare Discworld and Earthsea -- both spectacular and as different as can be.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on August 24, 2015, 06:21:01 PM
Wow, I was fully aligned to the majority in the first week, now it seems I'm only with the majority on one!
Great variety! :D
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 28, 2015, 08:41:41 PM
Been a little quiet in this neck of the woods the past few days.  Sent out another Twitter and Facebook announcement earlier today but not sure if its drawn anyone else in.  I expect things to start picking up in Round 2.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on August 28, 2015, 09:01:47 PM
Yes, I hope so.
But there were lots of votes this time, just a little less comments from non-regulars.
Edit: actually, less votes -- around 35 last time, 27 this time. Hmmmm

Just looked at the updated chart on the first post, and I know which ones I'm going to vote for in Round 2 :D - if they win, it'll be an all-Hobb-round 3 hehe
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on August 28, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
The whole forum has been marginally quieter, I think. Could be people starting back at work after holidays or something?  :-\
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: m3mnoch on August 28, 2015, 10:31:42 PM
The whole forum has been marginally quieter, I think. Could be people starting back at work after holidays or something?  :-\

that'd be my vote.  i've had lots of work getting in my way, for sure.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 28, 2015, 10:43:55 PM
The whole forum has been marginally quieter, I think. Could be people starting back at work after holidays or something?  :-\

that'd be my vote.  i've had lots of work getting in my way, for sure.

What is this holiday thing you all speak of?   You mean people don't work 52 weeks each year?
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on August 28, 2015, 11:36:09 PM
The whole forum has been marginally quieter, I think. Could be people starting back at work after holidays or something?  :-\

that'd be my vote.  i've had lots of work getting in my way, for sure.

What is this holiday thing you all speak of?   You mean people don't work 52 weeks each year?
Well, if @m3mnoch (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40419) or @Raptori (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=38840) would just say intersting things or post interesting links to art and stuff, it might be a bit more energized around here. ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on August 28, 2015, 11:43:52 PM
The whole forum has been marginally quieter, I think. Could be people starting back at work after holidays or something?  :-\

that'd be my vote.  i've had lots of work getting in my way, for sure.

What is this holiday thing you all speak of?   You mean people don't work 52 weeks each year?
Well, if @m3mnoch (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40419) or @Raptori (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=38840) would just say intersting things or post interesting links to art and stuff, it might be a bit more energized around here. ;)
Me? Post something interesting?  :o
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: m3mnoch on August 29, 2015, 01:11:38 AM
The whole forum has been marginally quieter, I think. Could be people starting back at work after holidays or something?  :-\

that'd be my vote.  i've had lots of work getting in my way, for sure.

What is this holiday thing you all speak of?   You mean people don't work 52 weeks each year?
Well, if @m3mnoch (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40419) or @Raptori (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=38840) would just say intersting things or post interesting links to art and stuff, it might be a bit more energized around here. ;)
Me? Post something interesting?  :o

right?  THE PRESSURE!

[youtube]O3sexvJM5Go[/youtube]
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Victoria Hooper on August 30, 2015, 05:55:48 PM
Feeling a bit bad about voting in cases where I haven't read one of the series, because I know I can't say for sure that I wouldn't like the unread series more. It does feel unfair. But I can't NOT vote for my beloved series just because I haven't read the one it's up against! I want them to get through!!

So I've decided that in cases where I vote when I haven't read the other series, I will add it to my TBR and make sure that I do read that other series soon. And if I like it I will recommend it to others. It seems like the right thing to do, and will hopefully also help me discover some new great books! I wanted to mention it in case others want to join me in this (no pressure to, of course, if you'd rather not). This way, there is a positive outcome for the non-winners too.  :)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 30, 2015, 08:19:22 PM
I have my fantasy football draft tonight so it may be a little late before I get the next set up tonight but they will be up at some point.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on August 31, 2015, 04:03:42 AM
Well we had our first two upsets (by seeding anyways).  The major one was Stormlight beating Wheel of Time which was #21 taking down #12.  Dresden also trounced Riyria but that was a #15 v #18 so less of an upset there.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ultamentkiller on August 31, 2015, 04:11:57 PM
Wow. I feel like a poor fantasy reader this week. I've only read Harry Potter out of all the series up there. Lots on my TBR list though.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on August 31, 2015, 04:36:31 PM
Wow. I feel like a poor fantasy reader this week. I've only read Harry Potter out of all the series up there. Lots on my TBR list though.
Up until last December, I had only read two - Harry Potter and His Dark Materials. I've read five more since then (plus half of one Malazan book). Wish I still had some of them to look forward to, since some of them are great - you're lucky really!  :P
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 07, 2015, 05:17:18 AM
I think the votes are going to start getting really close and tough this round.   We probably won't have near the number of abstains going forward which will probably tighten up the voting some. 
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 11, 2015, 02:48:13 AM
I don't know how many more votes are going to come in but these are some tight races.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 13, 2015, 01:26:04 AM
So we might need to start discussing tiebreakers....
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on September 13, 2015, 02:19:40 AM
Oh eeek you're right! Farseer and First Law have the same at the moment.

I'm not sure what to do to to find a winner, though... it's not as if we can put Robin against Joe in a race or something :D
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 13, 2015, 02:22:57 AM
Hopefully we can get a few more visitors tomorrow to push it on way or another.  Only thing I can think of is using last round's results in some way.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Lady Ty on September 13, 2015, 02:29:21 AM
Just sent out a last minute Tweet -( think I got this one right, Hedin ;) ) might stir up a couple more votes.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on September 13, 2015, 02:35:23 AM
Just sent out a last minute Tweet -( think I got this one right, Hedin ;) ) might stir up a couple more votes.
I hope you told them to vote Farseer ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 13, 2015, 02:37:37 AM
Just sent out a last minute Tweet -( think I got this one right, Hedin ;) ) might stir up a couple more votes.
I hope you told them to vote Farseer ;)

Only if you want them to vote wrong.

I can't believe Liveship is going to go down to ASOIAF.  I'm thinking if that happens only LOTR will beat it.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on September 13, 2015, 02:38:56 AM
Just sent out a last minute Tweet -( think I got this one right, Hedin ;) ) might stir up a couple more votes.
I hope you told them to vote Farseer ;)

Only if you want them to vote wrong.

I can't believe Liveship is going to go down to ASOIAF.  I'm thinking if that happens only LOTR will beat it.
I also would much prefer Liveship :'( (I hope people - not regulars - aren't voting for the TV series...)
I just don't want Robin to disappear yet :-\
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Lady Ty on September 13, 2015, 02:57:56 AM
Just sent out a last minute Tweet -( think I got this one right, Hedin ;) ) might stir up a couple more votes.
I hope you told them to vote Farseer ;)
Sorry, the joy of Twitter is that it has to be short, hope @F-F RT from main site when UK wakes up to Sunday.
 
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@FantasyFaction Last minute action on Book Battles to break tie, votes needed, Farseer v First Law http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/fantasy (rest of link to page)

Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: eclipse on September 13, 2015, 07:45:01 AM
Tie break

You don't count anonymous votes only count the ones who have posted in the topic should get people to post as well

You see all this votes for LoTR and GoT and you don't know where there coming from I suspect if we had twilight it would win haha
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on September 13, 2015, 10:48:23 AM
Tie break

You don't count anonymous votes only count the ones who have posted in the topic should get people to post as well

You see all this votes for LoTR and GoT and you don't know where there coming from I suspect if we had twilight it would win haha

that's a great tiebreak idea.
but posters only count once and they add to the voting.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ultamentkiller on September 13, 2015, 05:21:56 PM
I don't agree with that. That's like saying, Oh you're shy so therefore we don't count you when it matters.
If it's a tie, it's a tie. Just pair the two off with something else. them together just won't fly apparently.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: eclipse on September 13, 2015, 05:28:44 PM
I would encourage anyone who votes to discuss in the thread the two series and advocate for your pick.

why should we listen to votes if there don't say why there picked them?

Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on September 13, 2015, 05:31:25 PM
I would encourage anyone who votes to discuss in the thread the two series and advocate for your pick.

why should we listen to votes if there don't say why there picked them?

We didn't require comments at the start, so can't require them now. I withdraw my comments earlier in favor of @ultamentkiller (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40103)'s. Put them both through to the next round. Maybe put three series in together.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Doctor_Chill on September 13, 2015, 05:38:06 PM
I would encourage anyone who votes to discuss in the thread the two series and advocate for your pick.

why should we listen to votes if there don't say why there picked them?

We didn't require comments at the start, so can't require them now. I withdraw my comments earlier in favor of @ultamentkiller (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40103)'s. Put them both through to the next round. Maybe put three series in together.

Or we contact the author(s) for a Q&A disco promo and whoever replies back first wins.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 13, 2015, 05:39:36 PM
Or we could put both books into the next round? A three-way poll (four if you include abstain) is just as easy to make as a two-way one.  :)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: eclipse on September 13, 2015, 05:41:18 PM
Or we could put both books into the next round? A three-way poll (four if you include abstain) is just as easy to make as a two-way one.  :)

I quite like that.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 13, 2015, 05:44:05 PM
Or we could put both books into the next round? A three-way poll (four if you include abstain) is just as easy to make as a two-way one.  :)

I quite like that.

We would have to leave that section of the graphical bracket blank for the time being but seems like a reasonable compromise.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 13, 2015, 05:52:52 PM
Or we could put both books into the next round? A three-way poll (four if you include abstain) is just as easy to make as a two-way one.  :)

I quite like that.

We would have to leave that section of the graphical bracket blank for the time being but seems like a reasonable compromise.
Yeah I wonder what that site would do automatically, maybe put the lower seed through or something. It'd be dead easy to photoshop to however we want it though. :)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 14, 2015, 05:03:17 AM
Just a quick update on the schedule.  This week we're finishing up the Round of 16 and then next week we will do all of the Quarterfinal matchups.  Next week after than will be the semis and after that the finals so we have four more weeks total.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Lady Ty on September 14, 2015, 12:00:29 PM
I would encourage anyone who votes to discuss in the thread the two series and advocate for your pick.

why should we listen to votes if there don't say why there picked them?

We didn't require comments at the start, so can't require them now. I withdraw my comments earlier in favor of @ultamentkiller (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40103)'s. Put them both through to the next round. Maybe put three series in together.

I don't think we should require people to discuss before they vote as one big reason behind this was to encourage new members to join . Maybe some did but are shy to make comment, but happy to vote. 

We could perhaps encourage comments in another future bracket more somehow. Next time it mught be good to have the changevote option though, like we do for he writing contest.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ClintACK on September 14, 2015, 12:43:04 PM
This round is tough -- four of my all-time favorites pitted against each other, and then three that I've never read in the other two brackets.  (I read the first Dark Materials book and it just didn't grab me the way I know it grabbed a lot of people.)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ClintACK on September 17, 2015, 08:59:58 PM
You heard it here first:  I'm predicting Harry Potter over Lord of the Rings in the final round.

:)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 17, 2015, 09:10:41 PM
You heard it here first:  I'm predicting Harry Potter over Lord of the Rings in the final round.

 :)
I reckon HP vs ASOIAF.  :P
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 18, 2015, 02:18:14 AM
You heard it here first:  I'm predicting Harry Potter over Lord of the Rings in the final round.

 :)
I reckon HP vs ASOIAF.  :P

As of right now you'd both be wrong.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 18, 2015, 04:08:45 AM
You heard it here first:  I'm predicting Harry Potter over Lord of the Rings in the final round.

 :)
I reckon HP vs ASOIAF.  :P

As of right now you'd both be wrong.
Yeah I just noticed that. Quite surprised really!  :P
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Lady Ty on September 21, 2015, 01:43:54 AM
^Maybe not, I sent out on Twitter yesterday appealing for votes to tie-break and Discworld is coming up to the line now.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 21, 2015, 02:59:04 AM
And we got a tie as well with Broken Empire vs Malazan.  One hour left.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ClintACK on September 21, 2015, 12:03:02 PM
So what comes next?  Stand-alone fantasy novels?  Science Fiction series? 
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 21, 2015, 01:14:21 PM
So what comes next?  Stand-alone fantasy novels?  Science Fiction series?

Haven't talked about it yet.  Was going to start a poll next week to see what people thought but we could start discussing it now if you all would like.  I'll probably take 1-2 weeks off after this one finishes before starting something else so we have a little time to get it organized.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 21, 2015, 02:12:30 PM
I think stand-alone would be best next, though I do wonder how many books would qualify! Also we'd have to decide whether or not to include books that are going to have sequels at some indeterminate point in the future - Elantris, Warbreaker, etc.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 21, 2015, 02:42:04 PM
I think stand-alone would be best next, though I do wonder how many books would qualify! Also we'd have to decide whether or not to include books that are going to have sequels at some indeterminate point in the future - Elantris, Warbreaker, etc.

I think for standalones I would look to having a 16 book bracket.  If we get enough that we would need a 32er again then awesome but I think 16 should be the initial target (could split the difference with 24 with some byes if need be).

I personally view Elantris and Warbreaker as standalones.  They may get sequels at some point in the future but those sequels are still out there as maybes and definitely won't be coming soon.

Two other things I think we'll have to decide:

1) Shared-world novels: I'm thinking of something like Abercrombies The Heroes or Red Country.  All of these books are in the same world and past events are at least mentioned but I you don't have to actually read any of the others to know what is going on.

2) Are we going to combine fantasy and sci-fi?

Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 21, 2015, 03:03:33 PM
I think stand-alone would be best next, though I do wonder how many books would qualify! Also we'd have to decide whether or not to include books that are going to have sequels at some indeterminate point in the future - Elantris, Warbreaker, etc.

I think for standalones I would look to having a 16 book bracket.  If we get enough that we would need a 32er again then awesome but I think 16 should be the initial target (could split the difference with 24 with some byes if need be).

I personally view Elantris and Warbreaker as standalones.  They may get sequels at some point in the future but those sequels are still out there as maybes and definitely won't be coming soon.

Two other things I think we'll have to decide:

1) Shared-world novels: I'm thinking of something like Abercrombies The Heroes or Red Country.  All of these books are in the same world and past events are at least mentioned but I you don't have to actually read any of the others to know what is going on.

2) Are we going to combine fantasy and sci-fi?
Well that's the thing - I can only think of like three or four standalones that I've actually read! 16 does sound like a good number though, I just wonder whether there'll be enough votes to get through each round. I guess that's the kind of decision best left until after the nominations are complete though!

I can't think of any shared-world novels that I've read actually. Not sure either way, though they obviously have a huge advantage in that they don't have such a burden of character and world creation in most cases. I guess include them in nominations, then decide whether or not to include them based on how many nominations there are?

I'd be in favour of fantasy only, then we can have sci-fi series and sci-fi standalones as separate ones to come. :)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on September 21, 2015, 03:47:41 PM
Some thoughts:

> What if we allowed 1- and 2-book "stand alones"?
For example, Donaldson's "Mordant's Need" would qualify. It's really one long book split in two, if memory serves.

> Did we mention before that we should exclude any single books where the author has announced follow-ups in the series?

> Also, I think it would be useful to start mentioning potential one-book contestants. That way we get a sense for the possible shape of this thing.

I can certainly think of
> T.H. White's The Once and Future King.
> The Hobbit
> Abercrombie's The Heroes
> McKillip's Forgotten Beasts of Eld
> Books by China Mieville (though I've not read any)
> Alice in Wonderland (and for purists, Alice Through the Looking Glass would reflect my two-book idea)
> Peter Pan
> American Gods (arguable again given Anansi Boys, but I'd say it qualifies)
> Jonathon Strange and Mr. Norrel
> The Last Unicorn
> The Worm Ourobouros
>Watership Down
> Bujold's The Spirit Ring
> Williams's The War of the Flowers

That's twelve without breaking a sweat.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ClintACK on September 21, 2015, 03:50:49 PM
So how do you define a standalone?

Does the Hobbit count?

The Once and Future King?  (Technically, there's a sequel to that.)

American Gods and Watership Down seem clear, as do Elantris and Warbreaker. Some of Tim Powers' stuff?

Princess Bride.  (It's not as good as the movie, but still quite good.)

Neverending Story.

The Last Unicorn.

Dracula?  Or is that horror?

Stranger in a Strange Land?  Or is that Sci-Fi?

Edit: Jmack beat me to it, and there's surprisingly little overlap in our lists.  :)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 21, 2015, 03:52:07 PM
I imagine there will be a lot of Gaiman and some Kay as well. 

Would also need to look at something like the Deed of Paksenarrion.  The Deed is actually three shorter books but nowdays they're all sold as one.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on September 21, 2015, 03:57:18 PM
I imagine there will be a lot of Gaiman and some Kay as well. 

Would also need to look at something like the Deed of Paksenarrion.  The Deed is actually three shorter books but nowdays they're all sold as one.


But I really think they were written as separate books. Still, some of this will end up being subjective.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: DrNefario on September 21, 2015, 04:16:50 PM
The Once and Future King is an omnibus of 4 or 5 books, isn't it?

Hmm, wikipedia has it as a revised composite of the earlier works. I've been treating it as an omnibus, myself, I've only read Sword in the Stone.

There are a million and one great standalones, but I think they're harder to remember than series, because there's only one of them. They also start to shade towards horror (Neil Gaiman, Graham Joyce, Jonathan Carroll, etc) and other outlying areas of the genre. I would say they also already get a fair amount of recognition, from awards (World Fantasy, Mythopoeic) and Best Of lists (David Pringle's Modern Fantasy: The 100 Best Novels, for instance), unlike the core heroic/epic fantasy series, so I'm not quite so bothered if we don't do this category.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 21, 2015, 04:46:52 PM
I'd say Stranger in a Strange Land is definitely sci-fi rather than fantasy.

I'd argue against including books that were written as one and then published in multiple parts. Otherwise stuff like LotR and Kingkiller Chronicles would qualify, and there is no way I'd consider them "standalone books"...

Standalones I've read:
Uprooted by Naomi Novik
The Vagrant by Peter Newman < actually, isn't there a sequel planned for this?
Watership Down by Richard Adams

Books I've read where there's only one book currently out, but others are planned:
Grace of Kings by Ken Liu
Dreamer's Pool by Juliet Marillier
The Shadow of What Was Lost by James Islington
The Rithmatist by Brandon Sanderson
Elantris by Brandon Sanderson
Warbreaker by Brandon Sanderson

Books I've read that stand alone but are set within a universe that already exists:
Clariel by Garth Nix
The Emperor's Soul by Brandon Sanderson < actually that's a novella - are they allowed?

 :-\
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Victoria Hooper on September 21, 2015, 05:19:16 PM
Standalones:

Good Omens, Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman
The City and the City, China Mieville
The Night Circus, Erin Morgenstern
The Princess Bride, William Goldman
Lavinia, Ursula le Guin
Dracula, Bram Stoker
The Lions of Al-Rassan, Guy Gavriel Kay
Fire and Hemlock, Diana Wynne Jones
The Graveyard Book, Neil Gaiman
Poison, Chris Wooding
Zoo City, Lauren Beukes
Some Kind of Fairytale, Graham Joyce
Something Wicked This Way Comes, Ray Bradbury
Railsea, China Mieville

Books that I read as standalone but technically could be considered part of a wider universe (I would personally argue that these should be put on a standalone list):

Howl's Moving Castle, Diana Wynne Jones
Under Heaven, Guy Gavriel Kay
The Folding Knife, KJ Parker
Sharps, KJ Parker
The Hobbit, JRR Tolkein (if we're allowed to count it)
Best Served Cold, Joe Abercrombie (ok, this one's shakier, but I still think it's technically a standalone)

Would it be unfair to include Discworld standalones? If not, then I would nominate:
Small Gods, Terry Pratchett

Also, I think it would be a good idea to make a separate post for standalone nominations, just so more people can contribute. Some people might not realise from looking at the first page of this thread that we're now voting for a standalone list.  :)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Victoria Hooper on September 21, 2015, 05:20:14 PM
I forgot The Last Unicorn. Can I add that too please?  ;D
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: xiagan on September 21, 2015, 05:58:50 PM
1) Shared-world novels: I'm thinking of something like Abercrombies The Heroes or Red Country.  All of these books are in the same world and past events are at least mentioned but I you don't have to actually read any of the others to know what is going on.

2) Are we going to combine fantasy and sci-fi?
If you say yes to both, I don't think 16 would work. About all of Neil Gaiman's books are standalones, for example.

I'd be in favour of fantasy only, then we can have sci-fi series and sci-fi standalones as separate ones to come. :)
I agree!

Would it be unfair to include Discworld standalones? If not, then I would nominate:
Small Gods, Terry Pratchett
Huh? Why should it?
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on September 21, 2015, 06:34:21 PM
Hobbit definitely counts.
I make no logical argument - though I could.  :P
Just saying.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Victoria Hooper on September 21, 2015, 06:42:43 PM
Would it be unfair to include Discworld standalones? If not, then I would nominate:
Small Gods, Terry Pratchett
Huh? Why should it?

Just because the decision was made to include the entirety of Discworld as a series in the fantasy series battle. And so that book was technically included (albeit as part of a series) in the other contest. So including it again could be seen as unfair?

My personal opinion? I would definitely argue for it to be included in the standalones. Judging a book like Small Gods as a single book, separate from the weight of Discworld, is very different from considering Discworld as a series. Not sure what others will think though.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ClintACK on September 21, 2015, 07:35:35 PM
"Standalone" is a really tough standard.

The pressure to cash in on a great novel by writing a "sequel" is just so great.

See: Mote in God's Eye, Ringworld, To Kill a Mockingbird...

Heck, arguably American Gods is no longer a standalone...
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 21, 2015, 07:41:11 PM
"Standalone" is a really tough standard.

The pressure to cash in on a great novel by writing a "sequel" is just so great.

See: Mote in God's Eye, Ringworld, To Kill a Mockingbird...

Heck, arguably American Gods is no longer a standalone...

I'm not really sure I would classify Go Set a Watchman as a sequel and it's publication is a little iffy but point taken that it's really hard not to follow up when you have something that's successful.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on September 21, 2015, 08:58:04 PM
"Standalone" is a really tough standard.

The pressure to cash in on a great novel by writing a "sequel" is just so great.

See: Mote in God's Eye, Ringworld, To Kill a Mockingbird...

Heck, arguably American Gods is no longer a standalone...

Hence my two book limit.
I think the book nominated needs to be a complete story in itself or the duology needs to be a through story. That is, American Gods would pass since it's a complete story and Anansi Boys is a minor work. Mordant's Need might qualify, since its one through-story published in two volumes.

But, I could easily give up on the duology thing.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ultamentkiller on September 21, 2015, 10:43:37 PM
The only stand alones I've read are Elantris by Brandon Sanderson and... Well actually, Elantris is in the Cosmere which is why I've read it, and all the Abercrombie books are apart of The First Law world. So I've never read a pure stand alone. And honestly... I don't want to.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Lady Ty on September 22, 2015, 02:25:29 AM
Would it be unfair to include Discworld standalones? If not, then I would nominate:
Small Gods, Terry Pratchett
Huh? Why should it?

Just because the decision was made to include the entirety of Discworld as a series in the fantasy series battle. And so that book was technically included (albeit as part of a series) in the other contest. So including it again could be seen as unfair?

My personal opinion? I would definitely argue for it to be included in the standalones. Judging a book like Small Gods as a single book, separate from the weight of Discworld, is very different from considering Discworld as a series. Not sure what others will think though.

One of the reasons we included the whole of Discworld as a series is that it is very hard to separate properly into "Mini-series", and we also thought that, as it is so huge and varied, it could be used as a Discworld or Terry Pratchett Battle in it's own right in the future.

I personally think this would be great and for that reason feel it shouldn't have books competing in this particular Stand-alone Battle as it could swamp so many others less well known that deserve being brought forward for us to hear about.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: xiagan on September 22, 2015, 09:17:27 AM
One of the reasons we included the whole of Discworld as a series is that it is very hard to separate properly into "Mini-series", and we also thought that, as it is so huge and varied, it could be used as a Discworld or Terry Pratchett Battle in it's own right in the future.

I personally think this would be great and for that reason feel it shouldn't have books competing in this particular Stand-alone Battle as it could swamp so many others less well known that deserve being brought forward for us to hear about.
Actually, I disagree.
I see it as a disadvantage that the Discworld was entered in total, so excluding the 2-3 stand alones Pratchett wrote in it would be another disadvantage for his works.

I like the idea of a Discworld battle but fear that not enough Factioneers are well-read enough in it to pull it off.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Lady Ty on September 22, 2015, 09:58:11 AM
One of the reasons we included the whole of Discworld as a series is that it is very hard to separate properly into "Mini-series", and we also thought that, as it is so huge and varied, it could be used as a Discworld or Terry Pratchett Battle in it's own right in the future.

I personally think this would be great and for that reason feel it shouldn't have books competing in this particular Stand-alone Battle as it could swamp so many others less well known that deserve being brought forward for us to hear about.
Actually, I disagree.
I see it as a disadvantage that the Discworld was entered in total, so excluding the 2-3 stand alones Pratchett wrote in it would be another disadvantage for his works.

I like the idea of a Discworld battle but fear that not enough Factioneers are well-read enough in it to pull it off.

That's fair enough, I don't feel so strongly about excluding that I think it matters greatly, was just basically explaining the original thoughts. As far as I'm concerned the more exposure Discworld has here on the forum the better. ;D  You may be right about not enough having read Discworld widely to do a whole Battle but it was a good thought.  ;D

There are a quite few that do standalone really well, but still have familiar characters in and references, as I think you mentioned before so it is hard to choose. For example I loved Pyramids and think that could standalone and also obviously I adored The Last Continent, but guess that would have limited appeal and does have too much connection to the University. 

Sam Vimes is in Jingo but I was very impressed with that and think of it as a standalone. Sam Vimes is also present in Monstrous Regiment and that is a terrific book on its own.  This is the trouble, in my mind there are many Discworld books that can stand perfectly well on their own, the list could go on and on. ;)

Certainly would support Small Gods another great book. These our own F-F battles after all for geneal entertainment and discussion and we are making our own rules, so they don't have to be hard and fast.   Maybe we should each have limit on our nominations of only one or two by the same author?

Did wonder @Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543), do you think all these posts on new ideas for a standalone battle should be on a separate thread from the series bracket ?
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on September 22, 2015, 11:39:27 AM
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Did wonder @Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543), do you think all these posts on new ideas for a standalone battle should be on a separate thread from the series bracket ?

I think we kidnapped @Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543)'s thread and won't give it back until he serves tea and crumpets in a late-medieval tutu.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 22, 2015, 01:22:48 PM
I'm pretty sure Hedin said he would be creating the nominations thread after this one is done (so he can have a break for a couple of weeks while nominations are made). :P

I wouldn't find it weird for Discworld books to be included, though in that sense it's a bit of a special case!
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 22, 2015, 02:09:41 PM
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Did wonder @Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543), do you think all these posts on new ideas for a standalone battle should be on a separate thread from the series bracket ?

I think we kidnapped @Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543)'s thread and won't give it back until he serves tea and crumpets in a late-medieval tutu.

I spent a decent time this morning look for some sort of medieval tutu image to post, but alas I have failed.

We can start a new thread if you all would like, I don't mind it in here this one hasn't been getting much traffic lately.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on September 22, 2015, 02:54:45 PM
We need a new thread, we're not talking about 'series' anymore >:(

(everything must be in the right place! ;))
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 22, 2015, 03:35:17 PM
Maybe the best thing would be to create a "Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: General Discussion" thread, so we can discuss general stuff in there without offending the Bea.  :P
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Doctor_Chill on September 22, 2015, 03:36:33 PM
Maybe the best thing would be to create a "Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: General Discussion" thread, so we can discuss general stuff in there without offending the Bea.  :P

The Bea is terrifying when it's offended.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 22, 2015, 04:07:57 PM
Maybe the best thing would be to create a "Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: General Discussion" thread, so we can discuss general stuff in there without offending the Bea.  :P

The Bea is terrifying when it's offended.

When I first read this instead of reading "The Bea" my mind said "The Bieb".
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 22, 2015, 04:12:59 PM
Maybe the best thing would be to create a "Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: General Discussion" thread, so we can discuss general stuff in there without offending the Bea.  :P

The Bea is terrifying when it's offended.

When I first read this instead of reading "The Bea" my mind said "The Bieb".
The Bieb is terrifying at all times. (http://www.trekunited.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/shudder.gif)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 23, 2015, 07:24:04 PM
Psst! @Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543)! You haven't updated the image yet.

(http://www.smiley-faces.org/smiley-faces/smiley-face-whistle-2.gif)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 23, 2015, 07:31:59 PM
Psst! @Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543)! You haven't updated the image yet.

(http://www.smiley-faces.org/smiley-faces/smiley-face-whistle-2.gif)


Psst you haven't given me one.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 23, 2015, 07:33:37 PM
Psst! @Hedin (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=32543)! You haven't updated the image yet.

(http://www.smiley-faces.org/smiley-faces/smiley-face-whistle-2.gif)


Psst you haven't given me one.
Psst I may have sent the message to myself instead of to you...
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 23, 2015, 07:38:26 PM
(http://www.allsmileys.com/files/kolobok/laie/54.gif)


I am so going to overuse this.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 23, 2015, 07:40:00 PM
(http://www.allsmileys.com/files/kolobok/laie/54.gif)


I am so going to overuse this.
I don't think that's possible.

This one is also pretty awesome:

(http://www.allsmileys.com/files/kolobok/laie/19.gif)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on September 24, 2015, 09:41:11 PM
In these quarter finals, the 2 I really wanted to go through are losing, and the 2 I'm not that bothered about are winning.
I wish it was the other way around....
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 24, 2015, 10:29:08 PM
In these quarter finals, the 2 I really wanted to go through are losing, and the 2 I'm not that bothered about are winning.
I wish it was the other way around....
Looks like all three of the ones I voted for this round are going out!  :(
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 24, 2015, 10:34:47 PM
In these quarter finals, the 2 I really wanted to go through are losing, and the 2 I'm not that bothered about are winning.
I wish it was the other way around....
Looks like all three of the ones I voted for this round are going out!  :(

I don't think there is anything that I am going to feel strongly about left.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 24, 2015, 11:49:09 PM
In these quarter finals, the 2 I really wanted to go through are losing, and the 2 I'm not that bothered about are winning.
I wish it was the other way around....
Looks like all three of the ones I voted for this round are going out!  :(

I don't think there is anything that I am going to feel strongly about left.
Yup, exactly. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out, but I'll probably have to abstain from here on!  :P
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 25, 2015, 01:37:28 PM
Somewhat interesting given how tight things have been in the last two weeks that this week it's not tight at all.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: JMack on September 25, 2015, 02:01:22 PM
So...

Lord of the Rings
Gentlemen Bastards
Discworld
A Song of Ice and Fire

... You couldn't ask for four more contrasting series for our semi-finals!

I'm really not sure which way this will go.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 25, 2015, 02:02:45 PM
So...

Lord of the Rings
Gentlemen Bastards
Discworld
A Song of Ice and Fire

... You couldn't ask for four more contrasting series for our semi-finals!

I'm really not sure which way this will go.

I think Lord of the Rings will narrowly beat ASOIAF.  The Discworld block has been strong but Gentlemen Bastards has been a powerhouse throughout this whole process.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ClintACK on September 25, 2015, 02:13:37 PM
Pretty solid final four -- not a clunker in there, and I've actually read them all.  (Well, read some of them all... does anyone ever actually finish Discworld?  Calculating the number of books requires some form of higher math.)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Nighteyes on September 27, 2015, 07:53:53 PM
So...

Lord of the Rings
Gentlemen Bastards
Discworld
A Song of Ice and Fire

... You couldn't ask for four more contrasting series for our semi-finals!

I'm really not sure which way this will go.
 

Ooohh. I love all four of those. Shame Hobb didn't make it though. I can see a ASoIaF v Discworld final actually. ASOIAF is Germany. Ruthless and efficient in its prose. Discworld is the sheer brilliance and invention of Brazil.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Hedin on September 28, 2015, 03:45:54 AM
Semifinals are up.  As of right now for the final I am thinking about not revealing the votes until the poll is closed unless anyone has a strong opinion and can convince me otherwise. 
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Raptori on September 28, 2015, 07:04:17 AM
I think that's a good idea, no reason to show the results until after!  :)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ScarletBea on September 28, 2015, 08:17:23 AM
Yes, I'm for it too.
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: Lady Ty on September 28, 2015, 08:29:51 AM
Agree, keep us in suspense fromnow on. ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy-Faction Book Battles: Favourite Series Bracket
Post by: ClintACK on September 28, 2015, 01:17:26 PM
I hate suspense -- but it's a good idea.

Interesting that after all of the agonizing votes to get here -- Two easy votes in the semifinals.

Discworld vs Lord of the Rings.

Great classics.