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Overlord

Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
« on: March 04, 2011, 08:18:50 PM »
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  • Lord of the Rings - J. R. R. Tolkien
    The Fellowship of the Ring: 187k
    The Two Towers: 155k
    The Return of the King: 131k
    Total: 473k

    Wheel of Time - Robert Jordan
    The Eye of the World: 305k
    The Great Hunt: 267k
    The Dragon Reborn: 251k
    The Shadow Rising: 393k
    The Fires of Heaven: 354k
    Lord of Chaos: 389k
    A Crown of Swords: 295k
    The Path of Daggers: 226k
    Winter's Heart: 238k
    Crossroads of Twilight: 271k
    Knife of Dreams: 315k
    Total: 3M 304k (official count)

    Stormlight Archives - Brandon Sanderson
    The Way of Kings: 387k (official count)

    A Song of Ice And Fire - George R. R. Martin
    A Game of Thrones: 284k
    A Clash of kings: 326k
    A Storm of Swords: 404k
    A Feast for Crows: 300k
    Total: 1M 314k

    Malazan Book of the Fallen - Steven Erikson
    Gardens of the Moon: 209k
    Deadhouse Gates: 272k
    Memories of Ice: 358k
    House of Chains: 306k
    Midnight Tides: 270k
    The Bonehunters: 365k
    Reaper's Gale: 386k
    Toll the Hounds: 392k
    Dust of Dreams: 382k
    The Crippled God: 385k
    Total: 3M 325k

    The Dark Tower - Stephen King
    The Gunslinger: 55k
    The Drawing of the Three: 128k
    The Waste Lands: 178k
    Wizard and Glass: 264k
    Wolves of the Calla: 251k
    Song of Susannah: 131k
    The Dark Tower: 288k
    Total: 1M 295k


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    pornokitsch

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #1 on: March 04, 2011, 08:21:45 PM »
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  • That's fascinating!

    Overlord

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #2 on: March 05, 2011, 04:24:41 AM »
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  • Demon Trilogy - Peter Brett
    The Painted Man - 158,000.
    The Demon Spear - 240,000.

    King Killer Chronicles - Patrick Rothfuss
    Name of the Wind - 259,000
    Wise Man's Fear - 399,000.

    Harry Potter Books
    Philosopher’s Stone-77,325
    Chamber of Secrets-84,799
    Prisoner of Azkaban-106,821
    Goblet of Fire-190,858
    Order of the Phoenix257,154
    Half Blood Prince-169,441
    Deathly Hallows-198,227

    Other Famous Books
    Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe-36,363
    The Hobbit-95,022
    Moby Dick-206,052
    Oliver Twist-155,960
    Old Yeller-35,968
    Anna Karenina-349,736
    War and Peace-587,287
    Jane Eyre-183,858
    The Outsiders-48,523
    Schindler’s List-134,710
    The Red Badge of Courage-47,180
    Gone with the Wind-418,053
    The English Patient-82,370
    Anne Frank: The Diary of a Young Girl-82,762
    A Prayer for Owen Meany-236,061
    Crime and Punishment-211,591
    Treasure Island-66,950
    Little Women (Books 1&2)-183,833
    The Brothers Karamazov-364,153
    Sense and Sensibility-119,394
    Great Expectations-183,349
    Watership Down-156,154
    Ender’s Game-100,609
    Moby Dick-206,052
    A Separate Peace-56,787
    Charlie and the Chocolate Factory-30,644
    Emma-155,887
    The Wind in the Willows-58,428
    The Hours-54,243
    The Golden Compass-112,815
    The Tenth Circle-114,779
    My Sister’s Keeper-119,529
    Crime & Punishment-211,591
    A Tale of Two Cities-135,420
    20,000 Leagues Under the Sea-138,138
    White Teeth-169,389
    Atonement-123,378
    The Mouse and the Motorcycle-22,416
    The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn-109,571
    The Adventures of Tom Sawyer-69,066
    The Secret Garden – 80,398
    The Grapes of Wrath-169,481
    The Great Gatsby-47,094
    One Hundred Years of Solitude-144,523
    Memoirs of a Geisha-186,418
    The Last of the Mohicans-145,469
    Lord of the Flies-59,900
    Cold Mountain-161,511
    Cold Sassy Tree-145,265 F
    The Color Purple-66,556
    The Catcher in the Rye-73,404
    The Joy Luck Club-91,419
    Snow Falling on Cedars-138,098
    1984-88,942
    Black Beauty-59,635
    Cold Mountain-161,511
    Anne of Green Gables-97,364
    Midnight’s Children-208,773
    Brave New World-63,766
    Gullivers Travels-107,349
    A House for Mr. Biswas-198,901
    All the Pretty Horses-99,277
    A Suitable Boy-591,554(estimate)
    The Yearling-128,886
    White Fang-72,071
    Wuthering Heights-107,945
    « Last Edit: March 06, 2011, 08:01:33 AM by Overlord »
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    OneChapterMore

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #3 on: March 05, 2011, 12:44:53 PM »
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  • May i ask where you got these from? They're great!
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    Autumn2May

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #4 on: March 05, 2011, 05:35:58 PM »
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  • Very cool! :) I guess it is a good thing I broke my story into two books, or it would be a 200K + novel.  And I guess that's pretty long. ;D

    Zziz

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #5 on: March 05, 2011, 07:34:07 PM »
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  • Awesome! I also happen to know that Brandon Sanderson's Elantris is 202k, though he told me recently that when he submitted it to publishers for the first time it was 250k.

    Overlord

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #6 on: March 05, 2011, 08:06:55 PM »
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  • May i ask where you got these from? They're great!

    Mainly from Authors Blogs / Amazon / Fantasy Review Blogs :)
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    ChrisMB

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #7 on: March 05, 2011, 11:18:05 PM »
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  • I am both the impressed, and slightly intimidated now.

    missoularedhead

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 07:56:08 AM »
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  • I know Tad William's series is long too…
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    pornokitsch

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #9 on: March 06, 2011, 08:06:06 AM »
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  • Kind of interested in the alternative - what great fantasy novels aren't super-long?

    Historically, we know that Lovecraft, Howard, Smith, etc... all wrote their fantasies as short stories. And even in the modern era... Amber, Earthsea, Viriconium, Dying Earth... all short. Hell, I suspect that even Eddings had a lower word count in a 5 volume series than some of the modern guys do in 2 or 3.

    Strange. Curious about the market forces behind looooong books (I kind of blame King & Tom Clancy for proving they're commercially viable).

    Gariath

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #10 on: March 06, 2011, 08:28:25 AM »
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  • Interesting that the Harry Potter book where the least happens is also the longest!
    The last Rhega.

    missoularedhead

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #11 on: March 07, 2011, 09:24:46 AM »
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  • I think some of this 'growth' is a matter of economics and perceived value. I know I have a tough time paying the same for one book at 300 pages when I can get a similar price on a book that's twice or three times as long.  That's not to say shorter books aren't worth it, but dang.
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    Overlord

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #12 on: March 07, 2011, 10:38:15 AM »
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  • I think some of this 'growth' is a matter of economics and perceived value. I know I have a tough time paying the same for one book at 300 pages when I can get a similar price on a book that's twice or three times as long.  That's not to say shorter books aren't worth it, but dang.

    True. I think soon though with Ebooks and Ereaders coming into play we will see less of a 'need' for books to look huge. If you look at the top sellers on the kindle the word counts don't tend to be as high as the word counts of actual books. Like you said, when you go into a shop you are more likely to buy say 'Name of the Wind' at £7.99 than 'Gunslinger' at £7.99 because it is 3/4 times as long... Online if you like Stephen King more than Patrick Rothfuss you would probably go for King because the size of the book is not viable... I dunno, just a thought...

    I do think though 'long books' have become a kind of aspect of the fantasy genre that we look for... a long book seems to call out to us... maybe it's something of a challenge too? I don't know... hmm.
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    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #13 on: March 07, 2011, 01:21:42 PM »
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  • 'Other Famous Books' in alphabetical order by Author:

    Richard Adams - Watership Down - 156,154
    Louisa May Alcott - Little Women (Books 1&2) - 183,833
    Jane Austen - Emma - 155,887
    Jane Austen - Sense and Sensibility - 119,394
    Charlotte Bronte - Jane Eyre - 183,858
    Emily Bronte - Wuthering Heights - 107,945
    Francis Hodgson Burnett - The Secret Garden – 80,398
    Olive Ann Burns - Cold Sassy Tree - 145,265
    Albert Camus - The Outsider - 48,523
    Orson Scott Card - Ender’s Game - 100,609
    Beverly Cleary - The Mouse and the Motorcycle - 22,416
    John Fenimoor Cooper - The Last of the Mohicans - 145,469
    Stephen Crane - The Red Badge of Courage - 47,180
    Michael Cunningham - The Hours - 54,243
    Roald Dahl - Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - 30,644
    Charles Dickens - Great Expectations - 183,349
    Charles Dickens - Oliver Twist - 155,960
    Charles Dickens - A Tale of Two Cities - 135,420
    Fyodor Dostoevsky - The Brothers Karamazov - 364,153
    Fyodor Dostoevsky - Crime and Punishment - 211,591
    F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby - 47,094
    Anne Frank - The Diary of a Young Girl - 82,762
    Charles Frazier - Cold Mountain - 161,511
    Steven Gipson - Old Yeller - 35,968
    Arthur Golden - Memoirs of a Geisha - 186,418
    William Golding - Lord of the Flies - 59,900
    Kenneth Grahame - The Wind in the Willows - 58,428
    David Guterson - Snow Falling on Cedars - 138,098
    Aldous Huxley - Brave New World - 63,766
    John Irving - A Prayer for Owen Meany - 236,061
    Thomas Keneally - Schindler’s Ark - 134,710
    C.S Lewis - Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe - 36,363
    Jack London - White Fang - 72,071
    Cormac MacCarthy - All the Pretty Horses - 99,277
    Gabriel Garcia Marquez - One Hundred Years of Solitude - 144,523
    Ian McEwan - Atonement - 123,378
    Herman Melville - Moby Dick - 206,052
    Margaret Mitchell - Gone with the Wind - 418,053
    L.M. Montgomery - Anne of Green Gables - 97,364
    VS Naipuaul - A House for Mr. Biswas - 198,901
    Michael Ondaatje - The English Patient - 82,370
    George Orwell - 1984 - 88,942
    Jodi Picoult - My Sister’s Keeper - 119,529
    Jodi Picoult - The Tenth Circle - 114,779
    Philip Pullman - The Northern Lights (The Golden Compass)-  112,815
    Kinnan Rawlings - The Yearling - 128,886
    Salmna Rushdie - Midnight’s Children - 208,773
    J.D. Salinger - The Catcher in the Rye - 73,404
    Vikram Seth - A Suitable Boy - 591,554(estimate)
    Anna Sewell - Black Beauty - 59,635
    Zadie Smith - White Teeth - 169,389
    John Steinbeck - The Grapes of Wrath - 169,481
    Robert Louis Stevenson - Treasure Island - 66,950
    Jonathan Swift - Gullivers Travels - 107,349
    Amy Tan - The Joy Luck Club - 91,419
    J.R.R. Tolkien - The Hobbit - 95,022
    Leo Tolstoy - Anna Karenina - 349,736
    Leo Tolstoy - War and Peace - 587,287
    Mark Twain - The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - 109,571
    Mark Twain - The Adventures of Tom Sawyer - 69,066
    Jules Verne - 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea - 138,138
    Alice Walker - The Colour Purple - 66,556
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    quippley

    Re: Word Counts of Epic Fantasy Novels
    « Reply #14 on: March 07, 2011, 01:50:19 PM »
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  • there's definitely a trend for modern fantasy (or novels in general) to be incredibly long. but i'm of the opinion that these longer books don't have better stories or more intricate plots, than older books.  they usually just pad the story with unnecessary description, dialogue and sometimes plot.

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