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Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« on: October 15, 2019, 06:47:22 AM »
I’ve read the

Grace of Kings, it didn’t blow me away

The tea master and the detective, again didn’t impress me

Green Bone saga , quite like this one

Have got the Black tides of Heaven by J.Y Yang on my Tbr list
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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2019, 07:57:25 AM »
*what* is 'silkpunk'?? :o

From some of your names it looks to be books set in an alternative Asia (instead of the usual alternative Europe), is that it?
Seems a strange name to call...
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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2019, 08:13:52 AM »
Lol, silkpunk.  ;D As suggestions goes, I'd tossed you my novel, "When Crows Cawed".

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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2019, 08:28:07 AM »
*what* is 'silkpunk'?? :o

From some of your names it looks to be books set in an alternative Asia (instead of the usual alternative Europe), is that it?
Seems a strange name to call...


 https://io9.gizmodo.com/author-ken-liu-explains-silkpunk-to-us-1717812714/amp
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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2019, 09:44:13 AM »
Thanks, I get it now.
And I haven't read any book in this genre.
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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2019, 11:50:17 AM »
I was going to link that article as well, hah. :D

Having heard Ken Liu talk a lot at the Melbourne convention this year (where he was a Guest of Honour) I am newly interested in going back to the Grace of Kings / Dandelion Dynasty world. But the books are just so massive! I won't do it for Sanderson, and I'm not sure I can persuade myself to do it for Liu either, even if he's an amazing renaissance man.

I'm very much looking forward to getting into the Tensorate series. So many books, so little time.

Jade Bone feels less "silkpunk" and more... urban fantasy? Gangster wuxia? But hey, labels are mutable, so why not!

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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2019, 11:59:38 AM »
I’m not strict with my labels  :)

The throne of the five winds looks interesting but 750 page count ....
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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2019, 10:50:44 PM »
Gosh yes, I'm looking forward to Throne of Five Winds (even at that page count - Priory of the Orange Tree was big too but SO worth it).

Though seeing the comparisons to K Arsenault Rivera in the description of ToFW made me wonder... why not include The Tiger's Daughter et al in silkpunk? And I guess the answer is because Asian as that setting it, the books are clearly fantasy, straight fantasy, no technology/sci-fi blurring. (Ditto Elizabeth Bear's Mongolian / central Asian fantasies.) So the silkpunk needs a bit of that "steampunk but Asian not Victorian" element to it.

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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2019, 06:40:10 AM »
I was going to link that article as well, hah. :D

Having heard Ken Liu talk a lot at the Melbourne convention this year (where he was a Guest of Honour) I am newly interested in going back to the Grace of Kings / Dandelion Dynasty world. But the books are just so massive! I won't do it for Sanderson, and I'm not sure I can persuade myself to do it for Liu either, even if he's an amazing renaissance man.

I'm very much looking forward to getting into the Tensorate series. So many books, so little time.

Jade Bone feels less "silkpunk" and more... urban fantasy? Gangster wuxia? But hey, labels are mutable, so why not!
I’m reading Jade War the 2nd book of the Green Bone series and it’s closer to how @cupiscent describes it than how ‘silkpunk’ is supposedly described.
I will expand your TBR pile.

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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2019, 08:02:09 PM »
Gosh yes, I'm looking forward to Throne of Five Winds (even at that page count - Priory of the Orange Tree was big too but SO worth it).


I’m loving Throne of Five Winds thank you for mentioning this title , I love the court intrigues and I’m in love with Lady Komor.

There’s no magic  or military battles  in this book so not everyone will like it.
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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2019, 08:04:32 PM »
There’s no magic

That ended it up for me :)
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'Yes' said Caladan Brood. 'You never learn'

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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2019, 08:11:59 PM »
There’s no magic

That ended it up for me :)

Thought I best mention that hehe. Who needs complex magic systems over plots and character development  😛
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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2019, 10:27:17 PM »
I’m loving Throne of Five Winds thank you for mentioning this title , I love the court intrigues and I’m in love with Lady Komor.

There’s no magic  or military battles  in this book so not everyone will like it.

Court intrigues? Awesome ladies? No battles? This sounds so much like my sort of thing that I might just have to go buy it.

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Re: Which silkpunk novels would you recommend?
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2019, 10:46:58 PM »
I was going to link that article as well, hah. :D

Having heard Ken Liu talk a lot at the Melbourne convention this year (where he was a Guest of Honour) I am newly interested in going back to the Grace of Kings / Dandelion Dynasty world. But the books are just so massive! I won't do it for Sanderson, and I'm not sure I can persuade myself to do it for Liu either, even if he's an amazing renaissance man.

I'm very much looking forward to getting into the Tensorate series. So many books, so little time.

Jade Bone feels less "silkpunk" and more... urban fantasy? Gangster wuxia? But hey, labels are mutable, so why not!
I’m reading Jade War the 2nd book of the Green Bone series and it’s closer to how @cupiscent describes it than how ‘silkpunk’ is supposedly described.

I will third this - unless Silkpunk is used for generic vaguely Eastern Asian vaguely technological, I don't think Green Bones is.

That said, that's about how well used all other X-punk labels are used, not to mention that most X-punk genres are poorly named to begin with due to being about as punk as a Shell PR meeting, so why the devil not.

Using the loose definition, Jay Kristoff's Stormdancer series is vaguely in the right place. But not that great anyway.
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