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What should Raptori read next?

Last Argument of Kings by Joe Abercrombie
6 (26.1%)
The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins
5 (21.7%)
Blood Song by Anthony Ryan
1 (4.3%)
The Warded Man by Peter V Brett
4 (17.4%)
The Aeronaut's Windlass by Jim Butcher
3 (13%)
The Thousand Names by Django Wexler
3 (13%)
Aftermath by Chuck Wendig
1 (4.3%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Voting closed: November 24, 2015, 09:52:25 PM

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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2015, 10:23:02 PM »
Surprised HG got so many votes, I've always had it filed alongside Twilight in my mind...  :o

Wow, not even remotely alike. They're both YA with female protagonists, but The Hunger Games is actually a terrific story...
Not in terms of story of course, but in terms of writing quality and plot holes and the like. Guess I'll find out for myself soon enough either way!  :P
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2015, 11:14:33 PM »
Surprised HG got so many votes, I've always had it filed alongside Twilight in my mind...  :o

Wow, not even remotely alike. They're both YA with female protagonists, but The Hunger Games is actually a terrific story...
Not in terms of story of course, but in terms of writing quality and plot holes and the like. Guess I'll find out for myself soon enough either way!  :P

Eeermmm.. Would not call it a terrific story myself... It's sure that Twilight doesn't hold a candle to the Hunger Games, but let's not kid ourselves, HG is an americanized version of the Battle Royal that tries to get a life of its own after tome 1. I put the series down at the end of book 2 out of sheer boredom, just like Maze Runner.
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2015, 11:28:24 PM »
Surprised HG got so many votes, I've always had it filed alongside Twilight in my mind...  :o

Wow, not even remotely alike. They're both YA with female protagonists, but The Hunger Games is actually a terrific story...
Not in terms of story of course, but in terms of writing quality and plot holes and the like. Guess I'll find out for myself soon enough either way!  :P

Eeermmm.. Would not call it a terrific story myself... It's sure that Twilight doesn't hold a candle to the Hunger Games, but let's not kid ourselves, HG is an americanized version of the Battle Royal that tries to get a life of its own after tome 1. I put the series down at the end of book 2 out of sheer boredom, just like Maze Runner.
Yep that's more like what I've heard of it - couldn't remember the name of Battle Royale though.
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2015, 11:41:44 PM »
ETA HaHa your today was my yesterday and vote closed  leaving my comment anyway 8)

A late vote for The Hunger Games.Read it before film and there is so much more in book understandably lost in film which concentrates on spectacle and misses out backgrounds and minor characters who are still very relevant.Liked it immensely but very close to some  real life regimes at times.
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2015, 12:12:25 AM »
Looks like I'll be finishing off TFL next then, and Hunger Games after that! Surprised HG got so many votes, I've always had it filed alongside Twilight in my mind...  :o

Thanks for voting, everyone! Much appreciated.  ;D

Hooray! But now you have to report back after you finish with your thoughts. :0
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2015, 02:54:35 AM »
Looks like I'll be finishing off TFL next then, and Hunger Games after that! Surprised HG got so many votes, I've always had it filed alongside Twilight in my mind...  :o

Thanks for voting, everyone! Much appreciated.  ;D

Hooray! But now you have to report back after you finish with your thoughts. :0
Of course!  :P
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2015, 05:34:34 AM »
Surprised HG got so many votes, I've always had it filed alongside Twilight in my mind...  :o

Wow, not even remotely alike. They're both YA with female protagonists, but The Hunger Games is actually a terrific story...
Not in terms of story of course, but in terms of writing quality and plot holes and the like. Guess I'll find out for myself soon enough either way!  :P

Eeermmm.. Would not call it a terrific story myself... It's sure that Twilight doesn't hold a candle to the Hunger Games, but let's not kid ourselves, HG is an americanized version of the Battle Royal that tries to get a life of its own after tome 1. I put the series down at the end of book 2 out of sheer boredom, just like Maze Runner.
I think a few people have said that The Hunger Games is very like Battle Royale meets The Running Man. I think I would have liked The Hunger Games more if I hadn't already seen Battle Royale. It always felt to me like one book that got stretched beyond breaking point into 3, The first one was entertaining, even if I did keep flashing on Battle Royale, the second was the sequel we had to have and I really struggled through the 3rd.
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2015, 07:30:55 AM »
Surprised HG got so many votes, I've always had it filed alongside Twilight in my mind...  :o

Wow, not even remotely alike. They're both YA with female protagonists, but The Hunger Games is actually a terrific story...

With a great female role model as well who is proactive and not defined by her relationships with men.
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2015, 08:47:38 AM »
but let's not kid ourselves, HG is an americanized version of the Battle Royal that tries to get a life of its own after tome 1.

We (just as being part of this community) read iteration after iteration of the same old story done with a few new twists and bells and whistles on it. I don't understand why the Battle Royale argument is always cited by those who dislike The Hunger Games as one of its main detractions. It was a good story in its original 'form' and it's a good story now. And like @Nighteyes said, it has a proactive, realistic young female role model who quite easily steps into the part of reluctant hero alongside male role models like Harry Potter or the Baggins. I don't think I am kidding myself in thinking it's still a terrific story. And it's hardly a tome - you could knock it out quite easily in a day, unlike the vast majority of adult fantasies.
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2015, 01:29:21 AM »
but let's not kid ourselves, HG is an americanized version of the Battle Royal that tries to get a life of its own after tome 1.

We (just as being part of this community) read iteration after iteration of the same old story done with a few new twists and bells and whistles on it. I don't understand why the Battle Royale argument is always cited by those who dislike The Hunger Games as one of its main detractions. It was a good story in its original 'form' and it's a good story now. And like @Nighteyes said, it has a proactive, realistic young female role model who quite easily steps into the part of reluctant hero alongside male role models like Harry Potter or the Baggins. I don't think I am kidding myself in thinking it's still a terrific story. And it's hardly a tome - you could knock it out quite easily in a day, unlike the vast majority of adult fantasies.

Well, I think, just like there is a difference between an homage and a plagiarism, variations on the same theme are not the same as variation on the same plot or trope, ect.
It's still done, like the quest story and other sword and sorcery typical layout, but - and I speak only for myself - I find HG to be too close (while less original and believable) than Battle Royal.
It's not a story line that offers a lot of room for variation and originality. It's still a bunch of kids set out to kill each other, but watered down for YA readership.
To me it's a beach book that I'd read over a few summer days. After finishing it, I'll be a lot more peckish if I'm recommended another BR type setting book.
Just like I don't dig quests too much since I've had my dose of it. Just like I'm over variations on the vampire-human couple - been there, read all that - ect.
I can see why you'd like it, if you're not tired of the story type.
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2015, 10:36:28 AM »
but let's not kid ourselves, HG is an americanized version of the Battle Royal that tries to get a life of its own after tome 1.

We (just as being part of this community) read iteration after iteration of the same old story done with a few new twists and bells and whistles on it. I don't understand why the Battle Royale argument is always cited by those who dislike The Hunger Games as one of its main detractions. It was a good story in its original 'form' and it's a good story now. And like @Nighteyes said, it has a proactive, realistic young female role model who quite easily steps into the part of reluctant hero alongside male role models like Harry Potter or the Baggins. I don't think I am kidding myself in thinking it's still a terrific story. And it's hardly a tome - you could knock it out quite easily in a day, unlike the vast majority of adult fantasies.

Well, I think, just like there is a difference between an homage and a plagiarism, variations on the same theme are not the same as variation on the same plot or trope, ect.
It's still done, like the quest story and other sword and sorcery typical layout, but - and I speak only for myself - I find HG to be too close (while less original and believable) than Battle Royal.
It's not a story line that offers a lot of room for variation and originality. It's still a bunch of kids set out to kill each other, but watered down for YA readership.
To me it's a beach book that I'd read over a few summer days. After finishing it, I'll be a lot more peckish if I'm recommended another BR type setting book.
Just like I don't dig quests too much since I've had my dose of it. Just like I'm over variations on the vampire-human couple - been there, read all that - ect.
I can see why you'd like it, if you're not tired of the story type.
Also, I seem to remember that the series was widely praised for being an incredibly original idea. It's understandable that people who read it expecting something new and original would be more than a little disappointed when they get something they feel is very similar to something they've read before.
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2015, 11:42:59 AM »
Original, unoriginal, it doesn't matter. My point was really just that The Hunger Games is not at all like Twilight and I think it's much better, not that to me they are even remotely comparable.
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2015, 12:50:38 PM »
Original, unoriginal, it doesn't matter. My point was really just that The Hunger Games is not at all like Twilight and I think it's much better, not that to me they are even remotely comparable.

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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2015, 01:10:20 PM »
Original, unoriginal, it doesn't matter. My point was really just that The Hunger Games is not at all like Twilight and I think it's much better, not that to me they are even remotely comparable.

Yeah I understand your opinion, I was merely trying to point out how/why the originality was a key problem a lot of people have had with the books, since you mentioned not understanding why it's an issue.  :)
I don't understand why the Battle Royale argument is always cited by those who dislike The Hunger Games as one of its main detractions.
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Re: What should Raptori read next?
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2015, 01:30:25 PM »
Original, unoriginal, it doesn't matter. My point was really just that The Hunger Games is not at all like Twilight and I think it's much better, not that to me they are even remotely comparable.

Yeah I understand your opinion, I was merely trying to point out how/why the originality was a key problem a lot of people have had with the books, since you mentioned not understanding why it's an issue.  :)
I don't understand why the Battle Royale argument is always cited by those who dislike The Hunger Games as one of its main detractions.

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