April 25, 2017, 01:45:14 AM

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What should Nora read next?

Legion - Sanderson
3 (30%)
The Mote in God's Eye - Niven
2 (20%)
A Stranger in a Strange Land - Heinlein
1 (10%)
The Way of Kings - Sanderson
4 (40%)
Pandora's Star - Hamilton
0 (0%)

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What should Nora read next?
« on: December 17, 2015, 11:40:11 PM »
Ok, so I'm 79% into Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds, and while I quite like the book and universe, it's a 600 pages hard core sci-fi, and tome 2, Chasm City, is a 700 pages door stop with a slow plot, so I feel like I'll enjoy a break.

I'll follow Jmack and Raptori's lead and ask around for my next book.

All the books in this poll are on my kindle and ready to open. I'll just ask that you read the blurbs on goodreads if you don't know a book, and not only vote for the one you've read and liked (or else I'm sure I'm gonna have to swallow The way of kings...  :P)

I'm more into sci-fi at the moment which is why the only non-sci-fi is from Sanderson, since he's been writing more than I kept up with. I would have listed Shadow of Self, but he's so disappointed me with mistborn #2 and #3 that I'd rather give that world more time...
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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2015, 11:42:51 PM »
I voted for Legion because it is a fun read. And it's short, so it won't take up too much of your time.

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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2015, 11:45:59 PM »
I've read three of those - the two Sanderson ones and Stranger in a Strange Land. SiaSL was okay, but not particularly brilliant imo. Legion was fun but a bit shallow; Stormlight is absolutely brilliant.
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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2015, 11:50:11 PM »
I've read three of those - the two Sanderson ones and Stranger in a Strange Land. SiaSL was okay, but not particularly brilliant imo. Legion was fun but a bit shallow; Stormlight is absolutely brilliant.

Well, I read the prologue of Way of Kings and the whole thing just straight up blew over my head. Couldn't really understand what was going on, or why I should be interested... It was just me putting my toes in to test the water, I never intended to not give it a deeper look, but that's why I haven't gotten round to it yet.

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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2015, 12:05:53 AM »
Just place 1 credit in the bank  ::)
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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2015, 12:16:23 AM »
I've read three of those - the two Sanderson ones and Stranger in a Strange Land. SiaSL was okay, but not particularly brilliant imo. Legion was fun but a bit shallow; Stormlight is absolutely brilliant.

Well, I read the prologue of Way of Kings and the whole thing just straight up blew over my head. Couldn't really understand what was going on, or why I should be interested... It was just me putting my toes in to test the water, I never intended to not give it a deeper look, but that's why I haven't gotten round to it yet.
By prologue, do you mean prelude or prologue? TWOK has both.  :P

The prelude is completely incomprehensible until you've read most of book (and even after finishing you'll be just guessing at 90% of the details); the prologue is a little easier to follow but even so I couldn't quite understand it properly the first time I read it, especially the magic. They're a perfect example of how not to do prologues imo - completely useless for someone who hasn't already read the books.

Once you start the actual story it's miles better, though there are still a fair few terms that are used right from the beginning which you're left to discover for yourself as time goes on. It's well worth persevering with though. :)
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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2015, 12:17:42 AM »
I voted in The Mote in God's Eye, based on the blurb. Humanity builds an empire for a thousand years and only now they find intelligent life? That sounds much different than the others "galactic civilizations".

The Stranger promised the same premise (a human on Mars going to Earth, no mention of aliens), but Mote won because it showed a greater scale of things. From the blurb, Mote appears to be grand scale, while Stranger has a more personal scale.
Pandora seems to have a mix of both, with the problem in the end of the galaxy and a crew. It seems like Mass Effect, which is nice.

But I voted on Mote because I liked the (at least initial) aspect that humanity thought it was indeed alone. Seemed more unique.

Haven't read WoK, everyone says it's spectacular, but I'm not sure I should vote on something that big, that will require a very big commitment, without having read it myself.

Maybe you could even read Legion first regardless,  it's only 88 pages  :P
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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2015, 03:46:21 AM »

Also, @night_wrtr buddy, look at how CLOSE you were from 333 posts and 666 credits, you mongrel!



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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2015, 03:50:52 AM »
I've read three of those - the two Sanderson ones and Stranger in a Strange Land. SiaSL was okay, but not particularly brilliant imo. Legion was fun but a bit shallow; Stormlight is absolutely brilliant.

Well, I read the prologue of Way of Kings and the whole thing just straight up blew over my head. Couldn't really understand what was going on, or why I should be interested... It was just me putting my toes in to test the water, I never intended to not give it a deeper look, but that's why I haven't gotten round to it yet.
By prologue, do you mean prelude or prologue? TWOK has both.  :P

The prelude is completely incomprehensible until you've read most of book (and even after finishing you'll be just guessing at 90% of the details); the prologue is a little easier to follow but even so I couldn't quite understand it properly the first time I read it, especially the magic. They're a perfect example of how not to do prologues imo - completely useless for someone who hasn't already read the books.

Once you start the actual story it's miles better, though there are still a fair few terms that are used right from the beginning which you're left to discover for yourself as time goes on. It's well worth persevering with though. :)

I gave the WoK 5 stars, but it does have a steep learning curve and takes more than typical investment. It pays off though. Espicially with the second book, Words of Radiance.  ;D

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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2015, 04:18:07 AM »
I didn't really have a problem with the Prologue. That scene where Szeth just goes in and kills everyone? Priceless!
The Prelude was confusing as all hell. In book one, you can catch glimpses of "immortals" walking around in the Interludes, but you have to be looking for it. The only way I figured it out was through googling Stormlight discussions.
It should all make sense by book 10 though. That's one thing I love. There's details here that don't make much sense, but when the series is done, it will be something you can reread and always pick up on something you missed the first time, especially since the books are so big.
If you haven't guessed already, I voted for Stormlight. One of my favorite series of all time. Read it!

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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2015, 04:46:35 AM »
You really can't go wrong with that list.  :)

But they're all completely different.  The two classics are classics for a reason.  On the one hand, can you really be a sci-fi geek if you don't grok grokking?  On the other hand, both are a bit dated, especially as regards to the female characters.  But on the gripping hand, classics.  So many cool ideas in Mote.  Pandora's Star and Way of Kings are both doorstopper-size books with epic scope.  Pandora's Star has the great advantage that you can read the whole series.  With Way of Kings it's going to be years before that's true.

Legion is totally different.  It's novella-length, and while it's not exactly light, it's a breezier read than the others.  Which is why I picked it.  If what you're looking for is a mental palette cleanser after Revelation Space, Legion's your book.


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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2015, 11:15:59 AM »
I just voted for Mote. As a teen, I didn't even finish Stranger; I'd loved the beginning, but I think I was too young to enjoy all the strangeness with the Church. Mote, though, was like the author had taken Clarke's Rendezvous with Rama and turned into a wild investigation-cum-adventure story. Loved it.
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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2015, 11:59:14 AM »
I can't vote, I'm not into SF and only know Sanderson from the list, hehe
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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2015, 01:27:31 PM »
I've only read Stranger in a Strange Land, of the books you list, and I pretty much despised it. I recommend setting fire to it.

I sort of like Peter F Hamilton, but often end up being annoyed by some aspects of his books, so it's a bit of a love/hate relationship, and I haven't read that one, yet.

I have Mote in God's Eye in my own TBR. I think it will be coming up in my chronological SF challenge some time next year.

Ok, so I'm 79% into Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds, and while I quite like the book and universe, it's a 600 pages hard core sci-fi, and tome 2, Chasm City, is a 700 pages door stop with a slow plot, so I feel like I'll enjoy a break.
Chasm City is a standalone prequel in the same universe. The series is a trilogy - Revelation Space, Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap - with two detached standalones - Chasm City and The Prefect - and several shorter works. I love them, but they are pretty heavy and I did space them out over many years.

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Re: What should Nora read next?
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2015, 12:14:57 AM »
Ok, so I'm 79% into Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds, and while I quite like the book and universe, it's a 600 pages hard core sci-fi, and tome 2, Chasm City, is a 700 pages door stop with a slow plot, so I feel like I'll enjoy a break.
Chasm City is a standalone prequel in the same universe. The series is a trilogy - Revelation Space, Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap - with two detached standalones - Chasm City and The Prefect - and several shorter works. I love them, but they are pretty heavy and I did space them out over many years.

Yeah, I figured that one by reading the blurb... Somehow was confused enough to still think that it was nÂș2 in the series...
To be honest though I'm getting tired of Revelation Space, because of the amount of time when the author has a character disclose ALL the info to another one, but cuts to different scenes before we get to hear the actual arguments and actual reasons for their actions.
I swear it worked fine once. Maybe twice, but when they convince a third bunch of characters to please not do this or that because..- CUT! Different scene.... ARGH! It's getting on my nerves.
Everyone knows now, why they should not go and do what they're doing, everyone but me, and that's been going on for the last 200 pages. I feel more and more dissociated from the characters as I fail to understand their motivations, and I'm getting more afraid of the punch moment when it'll be revealed to me, as it will not be something that I can guess...

You know how it's always so cool in Sanderson stories, because the one revelation moment comes crashing down and it follows the rules of the magic system that have been put in place since the first pages. Typically in Elantris and Warbreaker... These Eureka moments are particularly fulfilling because you understand things along with the character.
In Reynolds' book I'm frankly not sure I'll feel so adamantly concerned by whatever happened in the dawn war that makes the Mademoiselle convert everyone to her side....


So Legion is winning so far! But it'd be nice to get to a serious podium position so I can read a second and third as well. We have time.  :P
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