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Offline Alex Hormann

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Re: Miscellaneous Musings about Books
« Reply #1425 on: October 01, 2019, 07:36:34 PM »
early copies on shelves adversely affect overall sales
Oh, this is the first time I hear this, what exactly do you mean?

So, the most important publishing period is first week after publication. Sometimes first month. It's the books sold in this period that get you on bestseller lists, and also affects whether or not publishers order extra print runs, how quickly it goes to paperback, etc.
Because a book on the shelf before publication date, it doesn't fall into this period and so the data is discounted. In effect, it doesn't count as a sale from the publisher's perspective, even though all the money goes to the right places.
Because the total sales drop, the publisher is less likely to invest money in that book/series/author. The big names, it doesn't really matter for. Though I'd expect something like the new Martin or Rothfuss to be under an official embargo and not slip into shelves. But for less popular authors, the 'lost' sale can make the difference.
Of course, publication dates swap around all the time, so its hard to know if a book is early or actually had its date moved forward. From a readers' perspective you're best off grabbing the book before anyone else does. But for authors it can be harmful.

Bear in mind that I'm no expert on all this, but that's what I remember from a university module on Publishing and several conversations with agents and authors online. :)
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Re: Miscellaneous Musings about Books
« Reply #1426 on: October 01, 2019, 09:00:51 PM »
Thanks, I understand now.
I think this case wasn't as serious, though, as it was already the paperback (hardcover last year).
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Re: Miscellaneous Musings about Books
« Reply #1427 on: October 04, 2019, 06:58:12 AM »
With physical books if you sell a book at any point if affects inventory even if it doesnt count towards best seller lists. I am not sure that is adversly affecting sales. While I fully get the does not count towards lists and designated sales. No stock and demand also be a factor in determining print runs. The tail is what feeds authors and best seller lists are very good at getting books heard of and sold over time after the initial rush that actually got them placed but ongoing sales are what keep authors published.

Waterstones seem good at spreading pre-release books around their stores. If they have an author event which doesnt clear pre release stock they often send a couple of signed copies to their smaller stores. I have not noticed
this with unsigned books though beyond a couple of days which I suspect is due to store deliveries rather than intent to get books on the shelves early.

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Re: Miscellaneous Musings about Books
« Reply #1428 on: November 11, 2019, 08:11:20 AM »
I need to write repeatedly these lines:

"I will not bring more books from the library...
I will not buy new books...
... until I've read all the ones I've already got at home!"

I just realised that I've got 7 unread books at home (and it actually counts as 8, because I'll need to buy one for the series), have had for ages, yet I keep getting distracted by new launches that I see in the library.
I know many people manage this easily, but for me, it just stresses me out :-\
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« Reply #1429 on: November 11, 2019, 09:31:54 AM »
I need to write repeatedly these lines:

"I will not bring more books from the library...
I will not buy new books...
... until I've read all the ones I've already got at home!"

I just realised that I've got 7 unread books at home (and it actually counts as 8, because I'll need to buy one for the series), have had for ages, yet I keep getting distracted by new launches that I see in the library.
I know many people manage this easily, but for me, it just stresses me out :-\

I have stacks of unread book at home yet I kept buying more. (Some I'm not even planning on reading unless I grew extremely bored) I'm in the same boat as you Bea.  ;D

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Re: Miscellaneous Musings about Books
« Reply #1430 on: November 11, 2019, 01:14:37 PM »
I tend to buy them, rather than borrow them, then I am ignoring them without a deadline. (Although I am reading a library book right now.)

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Re: Miscellaneous Musings about Books
« Reply #1431 on: November 11, 2019, 01:16:49 PM »
The good thing about asking people to buy you books for Christmas is that you then can't buy them yourself, and can finally whittle down that tbr stack.
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Re: Miscellaneous Musings about Books
« Reply #1432 on: November 12, 2019, 08:53:04 PM »
I’ve been lurking on the F-F Facebook and some interesting things pop up from time to time but I don’t get why it’s so popular? Lots of members there but doesn’t feel like a community to me  just random strangers talking about books you could spend 10 years there and not get to know anyone. It also suffers from trolls if there is even a slightly controversial topic posted.

I feel the forum is so much better to get to know other members. You wouldn’t get a topic about depression and support  over there.

I love that here we know about each other’s  crazy habits like  Iso81 always goes regular at 9pm
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« Reply #1433 on: Today at 12:33:54 AM »
I love that here we know about each other’s  crazy habits like  Iso81 always goes regular at 9pm

That's borderline stalking  :)

Just kidding, but it does happen in a close knit forum that you get familiar subconsciously with other posters habits, preferences etc. That sign of a good community.
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Re: Miscellaneous Musings about Books
« Reply #1434 on: Today at 03:05:42 AM »
I love that here we know about each other’s  crazy habits like  Iso81 always goes regular at 9pm

That's borderline stalking  :)

Just kidding, but it does happen in a close knit forum that you get familiar subconsciously with other posters habits, preferences etc. That sign of a good community.

It's pretty much why I preferred forums to groups in facebook or goodreads. There's just too many people, and you couldn't really get to know anyone. This forum is especially amazing, though, seriously.  :D

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Re: Miscellaneous Musings about Books
« Reply #1435 on: Today at 04:50:25 AM »
I love that here we know about each other’s  crazy habits like  Iso81 always goes regular at 9pm

I'm not sure how I should feel about this ;D

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