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Offline Dynimix

Re: Unexpected finds and Under-hyped books
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2013, 01:33:12 PM »
Captives of Time by Malcolm Bosse.  Out of print and soooo good.  Everyone on this site would love it.

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Re: Unexpected finds and Under-hyped books
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2013, 02:20:24 PM »
My new unexpected find/prized book - I found a 1st edition translation of 'The Neverending story' by Michael Ende (translated by Ralph Manheim) its gorgeous.

The text is divided into two colours, Bastian is in red and Atreyu's is Green, so you can't get mixed up between the reality & the story. Lovelovelove!!



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WOW! I just picked up that exact book (same edition, everything) two weeks ago. Such a beautiful thing.
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Re: Unexpected finds and Under-hyped books
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2013, 02:22:46 PM »
The naysayers aren't pushing it off my TBR list. I've heard more love for the book than hate and it was from readers whose taste I know runs close in line with mine. You'll never know for sure what you'll think of it until you read it for yourself, so may as well try it. That's my theory anyway :)

I'd definitely suggest that people try this one for themselves. It is very polarising. A lot of people absolutely love the poetic prose and romantic imagery. I found it... uh... vapid and wanky (I've got it firmly lumped in with The Wise Man's Fear in my mind).

So, definitely - everyone should try this one for themselves. I'm not sure the reviews will do it justice as it is a very stylised sort of book.

@Sennydreadful: Thanks! I... did review Tigana - in 2009, and the review is really badly written. Not particularly proud of that one, but, eh, it is out there!
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Offline Dan D Jones

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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2013, 02:56:54 PM »
How about Glass Books of the Dream Eaters by G.W. Dahlquist? As a "steampunk" author I don't believe he's under-hyped but amongst fantasy readers I don't hear much about him whatsoever. This was definitely a magnificent read.

It was indeed.  I absolutely loved the book but I suspect it's a bit to "literary" for many readers.  (See the "Unfortunate Wording" thread under the Writer's Corner forum.)  Anthony Huso's The Last Page is another that falls into that category, as is Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell by Susan Clarke.

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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2013, 05:14:00 PM »
One series of fantasy that are under-hyped but an enjoyable read nonetheless is Lisa Shearin's Raine Benare series that stars half-elven seeker Raine with moderate magic skills and street smarts (basically her career is that she finds things as a medium powered sorceress and who has family members that are pirates, thieves and smugglers). 

The 5 books read sort of like a good rpg novel but it has its own twist and quirks to make in a new take on the usual fantasy novel.  The two main races in this series are focused on the elves and goblins; these goblins are not your usual cannon fodder that you remember - picture instead a race that is drow like only without the white hair but with tiny fangs - plus they are a beautiful race and  have an empire with all the usual things like assassins, priests and wizards and a fight for the Imperial throne.  The elves are elves but with an empire of sort as well but in this series we are focused on the island that is home to their mages because it is a mage problem.  We also have elves that do all sorts of things - don't imagine elves living in woods - these elves have cities, towers and universities as well as their own mage-knights, as well a a whole family that are elven pirates that roam the high seas. 

While the story revolves around Raine and her magical artifact that everyone wants and she wants to get rid of because it eats your soul and keeps it imprisoned within itself, it also drives you mad with power and unfortunately she accidentally is bonded with the artifact much to her dismay and as such her story starts. 

The writing is solid  as is the dialogue and while there are dark bits as expected of any novel that has mad mages and treachery it is essentially a good enjoyable romp through an interesting fantasy world. 

There are many characters introduced in the series from mage-knights, priests, sword singers and government officials who all have their own agenda.  We also get to meet some potentially powerful teenage mages (both elf and goblin) but unlike other series where these youthful but powerful individuals always save the day they get their butts kicked by those who while are less powerful are fully trained - although they do help through out the story as well. 

Overall an enjoyable read and if you like elves and a twist on goblins that make them a people then its a good and fun fantasy read. 


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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2013, 06:17:10 PM »
How about Glass Books of the Dream Eaters by G.W. Dahlquist? As a "steampunk" author I don't believe he's under-hyped but amongst fantasy readers I don't hear much about him whatsoever. This was definitely a magnificent read.

It was indeed.  I absolutely loved the book but I suspect it's a bit to "literary" for many readers.  (See the "Unfortunate Wording" thread under the Writer's Corner forum.)  Anthony Huso's The Last Page is another that falls into that category, as is Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell by Susan Clarke.

I suppose, but there are plenty of literary lovers on this site. :)

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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2013, 07:53:27 PM »

Another one, I am not sure if it qualifies as fantasy though, is Perfume by Patrick Suskind. Weird, even creepy sometimes, but very engaging.

Perfume is awesome. I read it for my German exams, and it's the one book that I actually keep going back to. Probably also one of the few books I've read where the protagonist is a loathsome bastard, but it didn't put me off the book.
It is really good and something different. Haven't read a book to compare it with yet. :)

Neverending story is not bad (and I think every edition has the two-colored text) but there are other books of him I like more. Momo for example is amazing.
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Re: Unexpected finds and Under-hyped books
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2013, 08:38:49 PM »


How about Glass Books of the Dream Eaters by G.W. Dahlquist? As a "steampunk" author I don't believe he's under-hyped but amongst fantasy readers I don't hear much about him whatsoever. This was definitely a magnificent read.

That was so much fun!  Are there sequels to it?  Always meant to read on if there were and remember it seemed like the first in a trilogy. 

A few years back Tigana was on every list of top ten fantasy books ever it seemed.  Seems to have been a bit forgotten now though ...

I did enjoy it, and had quite a bit of philosophical meat to it, but I remember not liking it as much as other people seemed to.  I would say good, 4 stars?, but not an ESSENTIAL, MUST READ, 5 STARS classic though.
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Offline Dan D Jones

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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2013, 08:51:40 PM »


How about Glass Books of the Dream Eaters by G.W. Dahlquist? As a "steampunk" author I don't believe he's under-hyped but amongst fantasy readers I don't hear much about him whatsoever. This was definitely a magnificent read.

That was so much fun!  Are there sequels to it?  Always meant to read on if there were and remember it seemed like the first in a trilogy. 

http://www.amazon.com/The-Dark-Volume-Gordon-Dahlquist/dp/B004J8HXUO/

http://www.amazon.com/Chemickal-Marriage/dp/0670921637

Not a sequel but:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Different-Girl-Gordon-Dahlquist/dp/0525425977

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« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2013, 08:55:34 PM »
Contemplating reading Tigana next. You guys aren't filling me with lots of hope.
The naysayers aren't pushing it off my TBR list. I've heard more love for the book than hate and it was from readers whose taste I know runs close in line with mine. You'll never know for sure what you'll think of it until you read it for yourself, so may as well try it. That's my theory anyway :)

Hey, I'm not a naysayer! There are some undeniably very fun parts in the beginning. Just saying that there are some parts that go a little bit sour that can make you not want to finish it. The lengths I went to to procure the book, and the hype behind it, left me underwhelmed. It gets a little Mistborny... and I don't like Mistborn so I stopped.

I still have it on my TBR list though, it's just on my second shelf now, with Gunslinger and those other works I consider over-hyped and am in no rush to read. TBR-ASPIT

Another underrated piece of good fantasy Wilbur Smith's Egyptian series. Warlock especially. I have never encountered another person who's read it. I couldn't even convince my bro to read it, but I've read it about 5 times so far. It's just awesome historical fantasy done right. Anybody looking for a good read should check it out. It's a lot like HBO's Rome.
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Re: Unexpected finds and Under-hyped books
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2013, 09:19:03 PM »
The naysayers aren't pushing it off my TBR list. I've heard more love for the book than hate and it was from readers whose taste I know runs close in line with mine. You'll never know for sure what you'll think of it until you read it for yourself, so may as well try it. That's my theory anyway :)

I'd definitely suggest that people try this one for themselves. It is very polarising. A lot of people absolutely love the poetic prose and romantic imagery. I found it... uh... vapid and wanky (I've got it firmly lumped in with The Wise Man's Fear in my mind).

So, definitely - everyone should try this one for themselves. I'm not sure the reviews will do it justice as it is a very stylised sort of book.

@Sennydreadful: Thanks! I... did review Tigana - in 2009, and the review is really badly written. Not particularly proud of that one, but, eh, it is out there!

Cheers mister! I'm always interested to see what you thought about a book  8)
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Re: Unexpected finds and Under-hyped books
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2013, 09:31:43 PM »
A couple of series/authors that are rather good, but hardly ever mentioned:

Janny Wurts - Wars of Light and Shadow
Jennifer Fallon - The Tide Lords
Katherine Kerr - Deverry sequence
Simon R. Green - Forest Kingdom books
Mark Chadbourn - Age of Misrule trilogy (brilliant)
Stephen Donaldson - Gap Sequence
C.S. Friedman - Coldfire trilogy

um...I hate making lists, I'm always forgetting something...

EDIT: I forgot to mention Rebecca Bradley's Lady in Gil. I really enjoyed the first book, and the rest of the trilogy is also quite good.

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Re: Unexpected finds and Under-hyped books
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2013, 09:35:10 PM »
I've not tried that one... will stick it on the list! I have to admit, Tigana is one of my least favourite fantasies of all time (and that's trying it twice). But then, I really liked the Fionavar Tapestry. So I'm happy to give him another shot.

I need to finish the Fionavar Tapestry. The Summer Tree was both beautifully written and incredibly dark. That scene at the end still freaks me out a little when I think about it. Reminds of a similar scene from Stephen King's The Stand.
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« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2013, 10:20:09 PM »
Stephen Donaldson - Gap Sequence

I've only read Book One (The Real Story) so far, but I agree with Lionwalker. Brilliant read. But seriously do not read it if you're looking for something light. It's probably the darkest story I've ever read.
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« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2013, 10:57:00 PM »

Katherine Kerr - Deverry sequence


I read the first 10/11 of these all in a week (the library didn't have the next one) and I eventually got around to buying them all, even though I haven't read the rest yet.
I loved this series. I've seen a lot of people complain about how repetitive it is, but erm ....duh! I was totally fascinated by the fact that by the second or third book I knew exactly which soul each person was carrying before being told, and each cycle was different. The story moved in circles, but forward at the same time and it was completely different to anything I had read before.
It's been such a long time since I read them now though, I'd need to start from the beginning again - although each time I have planned to do this before, I have discovered that there was another book to get first! I think the series is complete now though (there hasn't been a new one for a few years- and wiki has the Silver Mage listed as the 'conclusion'  :)) so I'm just waiting for a suitable time to start a re-read. Won't be for a while yet though, I reckon.