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The Dragon Reborn by Robert Jordan
« on: May 06, 2011, 08:05:05 AM »
100 pages in, and really enjoying it.  Old Bob really hit his stride on this one.  First of all - love that so far its all been told via Perrin's POV.  In EOTW and TGH Rand's nobility and self doubts began to grate.  As Pornokitsch once said, fantasy needs more hobbits and less Aragons.  Also he was far more comfortable as a writer by this point, no more Lord of the Ring similarities, andhe is simply telling the story he wants to tell. 

Also he iwas not so busy trying to introduce his complex world as he was in the first two books - the various factions have been introduced, so now he could concentrate on the story telling. 
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Re: The Dragon Reborn by Robert Jordan
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2011, 04:28:46 AM »
Still enjoying it 300 pages in, but can Nynaeve stop tugging her braid!  She is gonna have a bald spot soon!  Seriously why didn't an editor just tell Jordan to delete 90% of the references to her tugging her braid?  Its just lazy writing and getting really annoying! 
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2011, 09:28:11 AM »
Yeah, the tugging of said hair braid drove me up the wall a bit.   ::)

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Re: The Dragon Reborn by Robert Jordan
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2011, 09:34:20 AM »
Can you imagine it being filmed?  It would look ridiculous the actress just tugging away on her braid all the time!
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Re: The Dragon Reborn by Robert Jordan
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2011, 01:29:54 PM »
Okay finished. In just over a weekend!so a much quicker read than the other two. Partly cos by this point I am now immersed in the world and partly cos it was just better written and a better story. Sounds a bit mean, but not having Rand as a POV made it a more fun read. Also the relationships in this one are better. Perrin and Faile still follows a fairly cliched route, mutual dislike turns into true love. But, its a relationship based on two people getting to know each over, and its exclusive.not all this rubbish about love from just a brief meeting with Rand and willingness to share him with over women. . . .
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2011, 06:38:26 PM »
tugging braids, smoothing skirts...the only things I really remember from Jordan. That doesn't say much.  And are Rand and Christian Hayden's Anakin separated at birth? So much annoying angst!
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Re: The Dragon Reborn by Robert Jordan
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2011, 06:32:19 AM »
^ I agree with your criticisms - he should have had a better editor who simply took a red pen and crossed out 90% of his annoying overdone character traits and it would have improved the story immensely!

Also the story is far more enjoyable when not being read from Rand's POV.

Having said that there is a lot to enjoy. 

In the fantasy family tree, you don't go straight from Tolkien to George RR Martin, you go via Robert Jordan.  The epic scale of his story, the political intrigues, the world building are all to be admired. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2011, 09:31:25 AM »
Funnily enough, I read Martin before I read Tolkien. I know, weird, huh? It took me until what, 5 or 6 years ago to read LotR. No, I'm not kidding. I knew the whole story, just never got around to reading it formally.
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